8890 severe crashing - help!? - Page 2

Just FTR,

I have posted my machines symptoms..just under the thread titled 27 error messages+3 system crashes...

Here is where I eat crow...watch carefully. It tastes yucky.

Having diligently read each reply and followed most all the advice I was given, from memory tests to swapping out memory, to rebuilding from the ground up, running benchmarks, standing on my head, chanting incantations while sacrificing my first born...you get the idea.

Weeelllllll.....*insert long dramatic pause here*

I cleaned out the heat sink/fans and it works fine.

*Bows*

Thank you; thank you. Yes, I feel like a dork. The good news is, it -is- in fact pristine, can burn through a defrag in 3 minutes or less, is entirely free of junk, errors or other nuisances, and I learned alot in the process.

They do, afterall, say the only stupid question is the one left unasked...or something.

Sorry about that, missed you were talking about him.
Guess I read too many threads and got confused.

Thats wonderful news, lets hope it remains stable.

Now, what you will need to do if you havent already, is run chkdsk /r every couple days to make sure things are ok.
Bad ram can cause serious file system damage.
I also recommend highly that you run a full version of diskeeper, then once the runs from windows are down to a VERY low ratio, run the "boot time" defrag function.
But do that only after you have repaired the data, and run the normal defrags

About the Ram

http://notebookforums.com/newreply.p...eply&p=197210#


The problem might not have anything to do with your Physical Ram (your memory chips). however, what u can do is; if u have your main hard disk partitioned (i.e) split into ah C: & D: u need to take of the pagein file from saving to the your local drive (C and have it saved to the (D

You see windows xp operates in ah way when the system is running it uses less resourses from your Ram chips, only the programs u have runnig in the 4ground use the physical mem and the background programs uses the pagin system when the paging memory (Virtual Memory) runs out all your present applications begin to dump to your physical and result in the screen u saw.

To rectify it u need to set the the initial size in mb, the same as the maximum size you can use 768 mb at the top and 768 at the bottom click set then ok if u need to restart close all your work off and restart, and that?s it.

The blue screen error show itself in 3 areas:

1.slack Ide connections
2.bad system file (total crash)
3.Memory Dumping

N.B it?s impossible for you memory chips to be bad because your system would not come on when u hit the power botton or if it does it would show the total anount in the Bios or under the General Tab of your Systems Properties. try it before changein the ram and let me know the out come.
http://notebookforums.com/newreply.p...eply&p=197210#

Pimpin_Emperor,

I think you missed this part.


I too had the problem VTdesmond is having now.
Apacer had problems with some of their ddr400, and it caused all sorts of odd problem, replacing the ram FIXED the problem in one motion.
Fixing the damage it caused to the file system was another story

yeah, there's an indent on the plate beneath the keyboard... and the "rubbery thing" is thermal tape.... unfortunately, it could easily be that the other ram is not cooling down.

remember, the ram that he took out is under the plate where this is no indent. i just realized this myself yesterday.

so it's possible that if the stick had be cooled a little more, it would work fine... though the only way to make that happen is to either increase the airflow or put the second stick into contact with some cooling surface.

no, it is possible for the sheer fact it may not be able to handle the temp. you have to remember, it runs fine until the temps increase. and it is espcially because the second module has to rely on simple air-cooling... where as the first module has the entire shield plate beneath the keyboard to cool it off...

being "bad" does not mean it's so faulty that it doesn't work from the get go... if that were true, then people should be able to overclock like crazy... but they can't... for the same reasons... after a certain temp the circuit lines can no longer allow the electricity to flow "correctly"... because most metals increase in resistance as the temps increase. all the signals have to travel for a specific amount of time... so that they closely match each other and signal timing on the motherboard. if a few lines increase in resistance too much... then the signals get read wrong... and that leads to a BSOD.

The heat is probably it, the original apacer I had, had heat spreaders, the kingmax Sager replaced it with did not have any, and are working fine.
I personally think heat spreaders in a laptop are a bad idea, without good airflow over the spreaders, it acts like a heat reflector back to the ram.