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post #1 of 19
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I guess the main question I wanted to put out is with regards to whether in your opinion the XPS support is similar to, better than, or worse than alienware support. In particular I'm personally looking to upgrade my current 3 year old Toshiba P25 later on down the line this year once some higher end 8-series GPU's start showing up and I was a little confused about the warranty each offers. In particular with regards to the extra service that's given with Dell's completecare support. Considering I am a college student and "life happens" a lot more often than back at home I wanted to make sure that before I put down a lot of my hard earned money from the summer I'd be able to make sure it survived long enough to enjoy. I've been looking over the forums and in particular about what shazza and HH had to say and I was pretty impressed with alienware's support, just worried about whether dell gives me a little something extra (especially with completecare). So I don't know if people have had any particular experience with either that they can speak of.

I'm still confused as to whether I should go for the m9750 (or newer variant) or the new XPS which should hopefully be out by the end of this year. That's why I'm asking this whole question about warranty. Also in particular I want to make sure I can go quad-core with the penryn since I'll definitely use the extra cores as far as doing some folding work at the lab. Thanks again for the input.
post #2 of 19
I think the best thing to do, since it sounds like you have some time, is check with some folks in your area to see if you can get some feedback on the warranty service offered by Dell in your area. I've read about people having success with getting on-site repairs done with Dell notebooks - and it may be that Dell repairs are faster than AWs, even if you have to send it in. In almost all cases, AW notebooks have to be sent back for repairs, which can sometimes take 2-3 weeks. This is a problem for some people - I've not had any reason to send the two notebooks I've purchased from Alienware back for repair, so this has not been an issue for me.

Re the Complete Care - this is not currently offered by Alienware, although I believe there are third parties that will insure a notebook for accidental damage (it can sometimes even be added to homeowner's insurance).

Regarding comparing an updated XPS vs whatever version of the m9750 is available when you're ready to order - that's a tough call to make at this point. I think we'll all just have to wait to see what Penryn and DX10 graphics cards bring to the game.

Realizing space may be an issue for you, I'd suggest you consider whether you might not be better off with a desktop for performance, and a smaller notebook for mobility.

I'm neutral with respect to other people's choosing Dell vs Alienware - it comes down to which one gives you the specs and style you want. I prefer the Alienware look, but Dell makes some nice gaming systems as well.

Good Luck with your decision ... there could be a couple of major iterations in hardware by the time you make your decision at the end of the year.
post #3 of 19
In regards to on-site service and timely shipping of replacement parts, Dell warranty is better. AW doesn't have complete care either.

As for my opinion on the hardware, AW is far superior.
post #4 of 19
Thread Starter 
Thanks a lot for the input. But as far as getting third-party support, do you know where I could look into getting that? I guess I just want to make sure it doesn't somehow void the alienware warranty in having it.

Yeah, I know as far as what'll be out by around the end of fall this year is going to be tough to call, just going off of whatever info I'm picking up from the forums here and there. One of the guys I live with has an m9700, which compared to my aging Toshiba P25 is much better. From what both you and HH say the m9750 uses the same chassis, but I was curious as to how stable it is. I guess I'm positioning my next system as more of a multi-media workhouse/gaming machine than pure gaming. Need it to sync up with an external HDD, a much larger LCD, and basically use it as a personal HD DVR. A bit lofty I know, but from the looks of it the m9750 looks like it'll be up to the task.

As far as realizing space I guess it was more for the convenience of having something I can pick up and take with me over vacations, and take to the lab (when it's time to do some real number crunching) and have it back home for when it's time to unwind for the day. I was either considering a laptop or a shuttle, but again there are obvious implications with mobility in going with a shuttle vs. a laptop.

And HH based on what I've read from the forums here and firsthand experience the m9750 is looking to be the better pic in terms of hardware, I definitely agree on that. I just want to make sure I'm getting the best support for what I pay for, which is why I'm asking you guys on your experiences on it. Thanks again for the replies.
post #5 of 19
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Originally Posted by Genryu
I guess the main question I wanted to put out is with regards to whether in your opinion the XPS support is similar to, better than, or worse than alienware support. In particular I'm personally looking to upgrade my current 3 year old Toshiba P25 later on down the line this year once some higher end 8-series GPU's start showing up and I was a little confused about the warranty each offers. In particular with regards to the extra service that's given with Dell's completecare support. Considering I am a college student and "life happens" a lot more often than back at home I wanted to make sure that before I put down a lot of my hard earned money from the summer I'd be able to make sure it survived long enough to enjoy. I've been looking over the forums and in particular about what shazza and HH had to say and I was pretty impressed with alienware's support, just worried about whether dell gives me a little something extra (especially with completecare). So I don't know if people have had any particular experience with either that they can speak of. I'm still confused as to whether I should go for the m9750 (or newer variant) or the new XPS which should hopefully be out by the end of this year. That's why I'm asking this whole question about warranty. Also in particular I want to make sure I can go quad-core with the penryn since I'll definitely use the extra cores as far as doing some folding work at the lab. Thanks again for the input.
If you are comparing warranties, the Dell warranty is superior in every way. Convenience: Dell will have the part to you in 2 days, and a technician sent out immediately to your location to perform the repairs. It's extremely easy to get new parts and have the technician sent to install them in 2-3 day turn arounds. AW will require you to send the computer off for repairs to a depot and this could take an indeterminable amount of time, during which you will be without a computer. There is no way around this. Warranty Transfer: If you decide to sell your computer in the future, having an active warranty can significantly increase value to your system. Dell allows you to transfer the warranty and all it's advantages to anyone you sell the computer to. AW will not transfer warranty to another buyer. If you bought a brand new laptop with a 3 yr warranty from AW, and sell it a month later, that 3 yr warranty goes straight down the drain. Warranty extension: AW will not guarantee you the ability to extend your warranty and it won't even be an option if that computer is no longer being sold or supported. Dell will let you extend the warranty indefinitely. An example of this is a Dell i9300 that I recently sold to a friend of mine. It's not even sold or supported by Dell anymore, but they allowed me to not only transfer the remaining warranty to his name, but also allowed him to extend his warranty even though the computer isn't actively supported. What does this mean if his computer breaks? Simple, he gets a new e1705 with a similar hardware configuration if that ever happens. Talk about peace of mind... Complete Care: If you drop a guitar amp or beer keg on your shiny new AW laptop, you can kiss any hope of having that laptop repaired or replaced. With Dell's complete care, all accidental damage is covered. The laptop will be replaced in it's entirety with no cost to you. If I were having an expensive laptop on a college campus or around college aged friends, I'd think twice about this perk. I could go on, but I think you get the picture. The Dell warranty can't be beaten. Now, it sounds as if you want the AW which is why you are probably asking on this forum for your comparison. The AW is a great computer, but the warranty is not even close to being on the same level with Dell. If you decide on the AW, keep all of those things in mind and be willing to accept any worse case scenario that comes your way. You can easily read about "ColdSun's" experience with his perpetual overheating issues and inability to get a replacement or refund. Sure, you might get a lemon with a Dell computer also but your chances of getting that laptop replaced with a working one are almost guaranteed and with a much faster response time. Naturally, I recommend the Dell, but then again, I'm biased, as you can tell from my signature. I did have a m9700 before my current XPS though... Good luck.
post #6 of 19
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Originally Posted by Groove75
You can easily read about "ColdSun's" experience with his perpetual overheating issues and inability to get a replacement or refund.
Not to detract from Groove75's statement, as the Dell warranty is definitely superior to the AW warranty, but ColdSun's problems may (or may not!) have been addressed if he had decided to send his laptop in for service. Yes, having to send it in sucks. I think it's sketchy to blame AW for not fixing the laptop if you don't (or can't, as in ColdSun's case, because you don't have another computer to fall back to) follow their procedures to let them fix it, though. If this isn't going to be your only computer, or you have something else to use in an emergency, and you're really concerned about replacement/repair problems, then definitely, the Dell is the way to go. OTOH, if you have other options in an emergency, then maybe it's not as big a deal.
post #7 of 19
for a student on the go (i am one too) i would recommend the Dell for warranty support. the AW warranty is good but sadly doesnt cover the accidents that can happen in the course of university living. AW is cool and their machines are fun but the dell is the better choice in this case.
post #8 of 19
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Originally Posted by coldsleep
If this isn't going to be your only computer, or you have something else to use in an emergency, and you're really concerned about replacement/repair problems, then definitely, the Dell is the way to go. OTOH, if you have other options in an emergency, then maybe it's not as big a deal.
I do actually have a backup one that I'm currently using at college right now. My 17-inch toshiba P25 can barely muster 30min of battery life, so I actually bought a simple Compaq V2000 for about $450 right before I started college. So as far as needing to send it in I'm covered. Once I have a bigger room for this coming fall I'm thinking of getting a real multimedia setup in there as I previously mentioned. I've never actually handled or seen a M1710, and it'll probably change with a new revision which should hopefully come out later in the year. I'm biased towards the Alienware considering the SLI for one along with the fact that I've actually got hands on experience with a m9700.
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Originally Posted by Fidget
for a student on the go (i am one too) i would recommend the Dell for warranty support. the AW warranty is good but sadly doesnt cover the accidents that can happen in the course of university living. AW is cool and their machines are fun but the dell is the better choice in this case.
Yeah, that is what I was most worried about considering I've already heard of "life happening" to people and I just did not want to have to deal with the hassle of going through that. Especially after spending as much as I'm planning too considering this will be my first ever fully loaded system purchase besides the work desktop back home (which technically isn't mine). Thanks for the input.
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Originally Posted by Groove75
Now, it sounds as if you want the AW which is why you are probably asking on this forum for your comparison. The AW is a great computer, but the warranty is not even close to being on the same level with Dell. If you decide on the AW, keep all of those things in mind and be willing to accept any worse case scenario that comes your way ... Naturally, I recommend the Dell, but then again, I'm biased, as you can tell from my signature. I did have a m9700 before my current XPS though... Good luck.
So groove what were you experiences with both, and what did you find were the key differences with regards to service and hardware overall? I'm not too hung up on hardware considering this will be a purchase down the line this year and who knows what else will be out then. But as of now as you guessed I am biased towards the m9750 just from all the pluses it seems to put forward right now, but who knows what the next mobile XPS revision will bring. One thing though is I'm hoping to be able to use quad-core (mobile penryn) when it comes out, or at least the X7900. Thanks again everyone for the input.
post #9 of 19
You could also look into getting some renter's insurance (after making certain that the company covers accidental damage). Renter's insurance is usually pretty cheap.
post #10 of 19
Thread Starter 
I searched laptop insurance just on google and I got a couple of hits but I have no idea whether they're what I should be looking at. Renter's insurance won't apply for me considering I'll be living on campus housing. I found one site called safeware which seems to be fairly reputable but I don't know if that's really worth it or not.
post #11 of 19
Safeware is a company that has been recommended by a number of people ... it's worth checking out.
post #12 of 19
Thread Starter 
So basically my options are down to either going with the dell for the piece-of-mind that their completecare service offers from what Groove said or go with the AW and take safeware insurance. I guess the only thing is I don't quite know how safeware will work out as far as replacing my AW should something go wrong with it. That's my only point of hesitation right now, that and the costs associated with taking up an insurance policy with them and how it might conflict with AW's.
post #13 of 19
I don't know if money is a factor for you, but you can also save $1000+ by purchasing a Dell through a reseller on ebay and have the warranty transferred to your name. Many more people have been doing that recently, myself included. As long as Dell allows it to continue, I'll probably keep doing this for future systems.
post #14 of 19
You might also be interested in niksem's comparison between an AW m5790 and XPS 1710 here. Lots of pics.
post #15 of 19
Thread Starter 
Yeah I was planning on buying it that way myself initially if I did decide to go through with it. But again once the new technologies I'm waiting for come out (ideally quad-core if it ends up on it). As far as money being a factor it kind of will be since I'm going to spending a lot of money on whichever system I buy, and considering I am a student, I'd like to save whatever I can. I guess I really would've ideally liked to get an alienware, but I'll hold out and see what ends up coming out later around Q4 this year when I'll probably make my final purchase. Btw I was wondering Groove if you had any experience with the dell D-dock, and how it worked out for you if you do use one. Thanks again for the help.
post #16 of 19
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Originally Posted by Genryu
Btw I was wondering Groove if you had any experience with the dell D-dock, and how it worked out for you if you do use one.
Yep, sure do. My setup is in my sig. I bought a D/Dock through a reseller and love it. Docking stations are just so convenient. When I come in from taking my laptop somewhere I just pop it in the dock and go back to working/gaming on my 24" LCD and desktop peripherals without having to touch anything on the laptop. The added PCI slot and media bay provides some expansion posibilities but I haven't used mine much. I only use the media bay on the dock for an additional hard drive.
post #17 of 19
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Originally Posted by Genryu
Yeah I was planning on buying it that way myself initially if I did decide to go through with it. But again once the new technologies I'm waiting for come out (ideally quad-core if it ends up on it). As far as money being a factor it kind of will be since I'm going to spending a lot of money on whichever system I buy, and considering I am a student, I'd like to save whatever I can. I guess I really would've ideally liked to get an alienware, but I'll hold out and see what ends up coming out later around Q4 this year when I'll probably make my final purchase. Btw I was wondering Groove if you had any experience with the dell D-dock, and how it worked out for you if you do use one. Thanks again for the help.

You should ask yourself if you're buying a computer, or a warranty before you make a decision...
post #18 of 19
Why is Alienware's warranty different from Dell's a year later? I don't get it.

The make believe we are not Dell is gotta be coming to an end I would think.



Zoid
post #19 of 19
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At this point I am still very much leaning on getting both. The computer being the alienware and the warranty being safeware. It seems to tempting for me to pass up the alienware just because I'm such a fan of their designs. But like shazza was saying it'd be really premature of me to lean one way or the other at this point, but at least now I have a general sense of what my options are. I think groove outline them pretty well, and I understand the pros and cons of going either way thanks to everyone (Groove in particular).
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