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New RAM for M9750

post #1 of 23
5/16/07 at 12:24am
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Hey there it's me again

I've decieded (a few weeks ago now) that I will be buying the m9750 - placing order first week of june - and I had my config all set up. It pretty much maxed out everything and it cost over 5 grand before shipping and tax, ok by me, but sadly that was with 2 gigs of ram. So I decieded to take a look around to see if i could get 2 stick of 2gig ram(4gig total).

Now i'm not a stupid person (or so i say ) and i knew that i needed DDR2 type ram aand probaly at 677MHz, buuuuut sadly i'll admit that my mind turned to mush as i was scanning page after page of tech info.

So to get to the point, I need you, my fellow...people...to help me pick out 2 sticks of 2gig ram that would work in my m9750. Id like to keep the total under or around $450 but I'm willing to go to $500 if need be. Any and all help is greatly appreciated, honestly, and if anybody out there ever needs any help i'd be more then willing to offer my two cents.

If you find any ram that fits my needs feel free to post\pm the links to me
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post #2 of 23
5/16/07 at 12:41am
lol bro
wait till you get the 9750 first then upgrade it
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post #3 of 23
5/16/07 at 8:40am
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Originally Posted by omagian
lol bro wait till you get the 9750 first then upgrade it
I want to get them at about the same time so I can just swap them out before I install all my things. Anybody have any info?
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post #4 of 23
5/16/07 at 9:16am
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I found this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231123
For $140

And
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145172
For $180

What is the difference between PC2 levels and the 667 and the 553 sticks, does the have to corispond to my processor speed or will either fly?
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post #5 of 23
5/16/07 at 1:45pm
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Originally Posted by term
I want to get them at about the same time so I can just swap them out before I install all my things. Anybody have any info?
lol... i'm in the same place... I have this vision of standing at the door with ram in hand waiting for the FedEx guy to deliver the notebook... basically I think it would be sacrilegious to run a new 9750 on 1GB of ram but i refuse to pay the alienware price for 4GB... lol I'm leaning to the G.Skill ram... my thinking was leaning towards favouring the heat shield... however, what I've read elsewhere on these forums is that Cas Latency 4 would be better Cas Latency 5.. and all the 2GB sticks of DD2 667 ram on newegg seem to have CAS Latency 5. And if unless anybody knows differently, the only place I've heard of that sells 2GB sticks of DDR2 667 ram with Cas Latency 4 is.... Alienware... talk about irony.
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post #6 of 23
5/16/07 at 5:06pm
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My first link from before
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231123
is 4 latency

will this work on my m9750

Capacity 2GB
Speed DDR2 533 (PC2 4200)
Cas Latency 4
Voltage 1.8V
ECC No
Buffered/Registered Unbuffered Heat Spreader

If it does work will it be a decent ram type?
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post #7 of 23
5/16/07 at 5:11pm
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My first link from before
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231123
is 4 latency

yes, it will "work". BUT! that older ram (PC4200), you want the fastest possible ram and thats DDR2 @ 667Mhz or PC5300 (thats current, im hearing they may do SR on 9750? that will be 800Mhz)

the ram you have here is PC4200 @ 533Mhz, so its all togeather slower.

You would have to look it up, but i'm relatively confident that CL4 @533Mhz will be slower then CL5 @667.

Someone posted some CL4 PC5300 they found, i think the vendor was EDGE? never heard of them, and the price for 2x1GB sticks was close to AW price...
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post #8 of 23
5/16/07 at 5:17pm
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Thank you for letting me know it would work, you're the first person to actually answer my question

Edit: I'm looking for 2gigX2 sticks thought but i'll look around at edge
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post #9 of 23
5/16/07 at 5:40pm
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Ok just got off the phone with alienware and they manage to completly avoid the topic pretty damn well...

All in all i'd have to say that DDR2 667 Mhz will work well in the m9750 *but* I may hold off on buying it till I hit phase 10 of my order just in case. They peddled something about how alienware brand ram was optimul for the system and how any other ram *may* not be compatable but never said anything conclusive and forgot to mention that $1200 cost...In conclusion I plan on buying 2 sticks off newegg and pumping my m9750 up to 4gigs for the same price alienware wants for 2 gigs...POWER TO THE PEOPLE
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post #10 of 23
5/16/07 at 9:33pm
I just bought 4gb of Patriot DDR2 667 for 250$ fromy Frys.com

Cheapest place I could find it..
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post #11 of 23
5/16/07 at 10:40pm
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I think i'm gonna go with G.Skill DDR2 667 for $280 (cost of both sticks) off newegg because they have heat spreaders. I only hope they fit because they look a tad bit bulky


oh yea - I asked about the respawn disk again and he said something like "it will probaly come out, we like to make things our costumers like". All i can say it this whole not actually answering my questions (because it's not out =p) is starting to piss me off a bit...but on the flip side I understand why they can't. I REALLY hope they put it out before I place my order though.
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post #12 of 23
5/29/07 at 11:50pm
do you guys know that the vista 32 bit system in the m9750 will only recognize 3 Gigs of RAM
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post #13 of 23
5/30/07 at 12:05am
yeah, but you can upgrade the os... the real question is what will the motherboard/processor recognize?
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post #14 of 23
5/30/07 at 12:24am
but how much will the upgrade cost? As long as the os recognizes the RAM there shouldn't be a problem.
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post #15 of 23
5/30/07 at 12:26am
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It's around $250 to get the 4 gigs and I'm sure it will be reconized because it's more or less the same exact ram save the company that made it and the lentancy (mine will be higher --> slower).
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post #16 of 23
5/30/07 at 1:46am
u can spend 62 dollars for 2 x 1gb sticks at frys.com right now. http://shop1.outpost.com/product/5178766
this is quite a deal at frys.com 30.99 with free shipping
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post #17 of 23
5/30/07 at 2:08am
Ok, so I've done some more poking around the MS website and the news doesn't appear to be good. In order to get a 64-bit version of windows vista, you basically need to do a clean install, which in almost every case means buying the full version.

Here are some pages with some basic FAQs

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...c8a701033.mspx

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

So, it doesn't really seem to be worth it to buy an expensive 32-bit version if you're just going to have to purchase a full 64-bit version. Unless, of course Alienware is offering 64-bit versions of the OS (which last time I asked none of the versions of Windows they were offering with the 9750 were 64-bit).

So that said I also poked around to try and find out how much RAM the different versions of vista will utilize, and here's what I've found:

http://www.vistaclues.com/reader-que...windows-vista/

MS had some pages on this, but for the life of me I can't find them on their site anymore. So basically although 32 bit versions of Vista will recognize 4GB, it can't utilize all of it as that 4GB max includes VRAM and some other applications, making the pratical RAM utilization around 2.5-3GB.

Now, I remember that I read somewhere else that it may also be limited by the motherboard and processor that you have. Does anybody have anymore concrete info on this?

Finally it seems that 64-bit Vista is not necessarily backwards compatible and that some programs designed to run in a 32-bit OS will not function properly, and to make matters even worse you will apparently need a whole new set of drivers, and who knows how these will interact with everything else (like SLI).
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post #18 of 23
5/30/07 at 9:00am
Yeah that patriot RAM is cheap but its not dual channel, so it wouldnt be worth it in my computer.
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post #19 of 23
5/30/07 at 9:09am
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Originally Posted by burgundian
So that said I also poked around to try and find out how much RAM the different versions of vista will utilize, and here's what I've found: http://www.vistaclues.com/reader-que...windows-vista/ MS had some pages on this, but for the life of me I can't find them on their site anymore. So basically although 32 bit versions of Vista will recognize 4GB, it can't utilize all of it as that 4GB max includes VRAM and some other applications, making the pratical RAM utilization around 2.5-3GB. Now, I remember that I read somewhere else that it may also be limited by the motherboard and processor that you have. Does anybody have anymore concrete info on this?
The current chipsets can take 4 gigs of ram but the max they reconize is around 3.3gigs. The m9750 won't be able to use all 4 gigs but I still think 3.3gigs* LAC 5 will be better than 2 gigs at LAC 4 *Two 2gig sticks
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post #20 of 23
5/30/07 at 9:12am
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Edited post above* Ment LAC 4 not 2
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