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I am a senior in high school and it's time to start looking for a laptop for college. I think the dv6000t by HP is probably the best laptop out there under $1400. You can get it fully loaded for about $1300 which is absolutely amazing. Now my dad gets this crazy idea in his head that thinkpads are the best laptops in the world. He doesn't even know a thing about computers. He thinks im going to drop it or spill stuff on it, I mean common... It's not like im taking my laptop to the theme park. Lets go on the roller coaster and see if i can get wi-fi from there! Ya... not a good idea smarty pants. I think the only way that I would settle for a crappy thinkpad by wtf IBM is if i had it mounted on an R/C car that i drove around, if I threw my stuff around like crazy, or if I soaked it and washed my laptop in the sink. Maybe then, maybe then. To me there whole "SECURITY" thing is just a joke. Just a way to get suckers like my dad to think that their laptops are better because if you drop them, they wont break. They have a fricken HDD cushion airbag... WTF I dont need an airbag on my HDD, like i said before, I'm not skydiving with my laptop. I'm taking it out of a bag (safe and secure) putting it on my desk (safe and secure) and not spilling my orange soda pop on it (cause im not an idiot). I've been in a tech class in HS for about 3 years now and we have spare HDD lying all around, we drop them on the floor all the time and then we pop them in the computers... hey look, perfectly fine.. i wonder why? I looked on thinkpad's website too and saw that they have "ROLLBAR" (top and bottom) and "CAGES". Okay, I didnt know that laptops were turning into Go-Carts, I guess i didnt get the memo the day Bill Gates released the new update stating that. Well as you can tell I'm pretty mad about this crap since I'll be getting cheated out of a laptop by HP that's so much better in every single attribute 20 fold and for less of the price. Final note: Thinkpad is milking its consumers for false security, end of point.
post #2 of 8
Dude, buy whatever you want. It is your money, no need to bash other people's choice.
post #3 of 8
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Originally Posted by jns2001
Dude, buy whatever you want. It is your money, no need to bash other people's choice.

Exactly!

Something for the OP to think about tho. Careful about bashing TPs for one day someone with a TP will close up their TP, use it to bash the crap out of your HP then go back to writing their term paper.
post #4 of 8
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Originally Posted by platinum3x
I am a senior in high school and it's time to start looking for a laptop for college. I think the dv6000t by HP is probably the best laptop out there under $1400. You can get it fully loaded for about $1300 which is absolutely amazing. Now my dad gets this crazy idea in his head that thinkpads are the best laptops in the world. He doesn't even know a thing about computers. He thinks im going to drop it or spill stuff on it, I mean common... It's not like im taking my laptop to the theme park. Lets go on the roller coaster and see if i can get wi-fi from there! Ya... not a good idea smarty pants. I think the only way that I would settle for a crappy thinkpad by wtf IBM is if i had it mounted on an R/C car that i drove around, if I threw my stuff around like crazy, or if I soaked it and washed my laptop in the sink. Maybe then, maybe then. To me there whole "SECURITY" thing is just a joke. Just a way to get suckers like my dad to think that their laptops are better because if you drop them, they wont break. They have a fricken HDD cushion airbag... WTF I dont need an airbag on my HDD, like i said before, I'm not skydiving with my laptop. I'm taking it out of a bag (safe and secure) putting it on my desk (safe and secure) and not spilling my orange soda pop on it (cause im not an idiot). I've been in a tech class in HS for about 3 years now and we have spare HDD lying all around, we drop them on the floor all the time and then we pop them in the computers... hey look, perfectly fine.. i wonder why? I looked on thinkpad's website too and saw that they have "ROLLBAR" (top and bottom) and "CAGES". Okay, I didnt know that laptops were turning into Go-Carts, I guess i didnt get the memo the day Bill Gates released the new update stating that. Well as you can tell I'm pretty mad about this crap since I'll be getting cheated out of a laptop by HP that's so much better in every single attribute 20 fold and for less of the price. Final note: Thinkpad is milking its consumers for false security, end of point.
So, you registered to complain that people are spending more on a laptop that has a titanium skeleton rather than an all plastic one, has an airbag & rubber bumpers to prevent data loss through an accident (that other manufacturers are implementing as well - Dell, Acer, & Apple being the 3 I can think of off hand). If you'd rather have a consumer oriented laptop instead of a more industrialized system, you're more than welcome to do that. But, even if your dad managed to pick a Thinkpad out of ignorance rather than foresight, you definitely are lucking out, even if by accident. The Thinkpad will be better in the long run. I will tell you, though, that the DV6000T that I worked with in the fall semester was a piece of shit compared to my T43. I'll tell you that it was a piece of shit compared to my T60. But, those are the high end Thinkpads. I could compare the R60, but even then, it's an all-plastic R60 that only is thicker in comparison, but built equally well. So, buy a system that doesn't support modular bays that allows a 2nd battery or 2nd hdd, doesn't have docking station support, has hinges that will go out in a year (the DV I worked on in the falls has about an inch of play in the hinges now from wearing out), and doesn't support extended batteries. Be impressed by glossy screens that require that you focus on reflections rather than the screen itself (I admit it looks better, but I want to see what I'm doing, rather than my ugly mug in the "mirror"), and fancy imprint glossy plastics that leave smudges rather than a magnesium alloy shell (or CFRP, depending on the model) It's not going to hurt our feelings when ours chugs along year after year while you're looking for a replacement fairly quickly. My wife is using a 4.5 year old X30 that, while somewhat weak these days (P3-m 1.2ghz, 512mb RAM, 40gb hdd, Atheros ABG), has been dropped a half dozen times(or at least got knocked off the table or bed), STEPPED ON(she stepped on the lid with the system closed, and nothing happened), & used daily at college and has traveled about 30,000 miles. It's still chugging along strong, with no replacement planned because she thinks it's "cute and tiny". At one of my former workplaces, we were using 6 year old Thinkpad 600Es (P2 366, 128mb RAM, 8gb hdd) before they upgraded to X30s. They'll last forever because what you consider a "false security" translates to the rest of us as "built like a (featherweight) tank".
post #5 of 8
Thread Starter 
the first thing to go on any of these machines is going to be technology. Try to get the most tech. adv. computer for the least price and roll with it cause ur just going to be replacing in about 3-4 years anyway. The same reason people dont mind overclocking and voiding thier warranties cause what's the point when if a product is supposed to last 10 year, but now only lasts 5 cause u OC'ed. It doesn't matter because you'll be upgrading anyway. If I had a crap P3 processor i think i'd shoot myself in the head pretty much wouldnt even calculate text but hey i just like to get things done. As for the rest of you guys, your wasting ur time and money.
post #6 of 8
Don't see how you think it's wasting money. I just configured a dv6000t and a T60 widescreen to the same specs and the Thinkpad came out to $5 more. Considering you get a MUCH better built laptop for that $5, go ahead and get the HP then cry when it accidentally falls and is broken. It doesn't matter how careful you think you'll be with it, shit happens. And you have the option to get a better CPU and LCD on the TP if wanted, you don't have those options on the HP. Plus it doesn't get pre-loaded with a ton of crapware.
post #7 of 8
what a waste of a thread....
post #8 of 8
@OP: what exactly is the point of your posts? Surely you didn't expect support or sympathy for your comments and point of view in the IBM section.

The person paying for the new machine wasn't apparent to me while reading what you had to say. If your father will be buying for you, yours must be the most ungracious, ungrateful posts I've ever seen here at NBF. Even if you'll be buying your own machine, your dad is just looking out for you, and Father Knows Best, you know.
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