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post #21 of 45
3/30/04 at 8:58pm
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Originally Posted by tdent1138
Here's my take:

Can someone explain to me why anyone would buy a 'high-end' 32 bit chip from Intel when the 64 bit AMD chip costs the same (or less), generates less heat, uses less power and performs better under XP32?

And then, of course, it will also run XP64 in the "future" as well (like by the end of the year). I just don't see any value at all in getting a 32 bit chip....
From what I can gleen, the AMD 64bit processors are much better at doing a single thing and the Intel P4 32bit processors with HT are much better at multitasking (two two or more tasks at the same time). Essentially, for "Playing Games", the AMD would "smoke" the Intel; however, for doing "real business" and something like "DIVX Rendering" in the background, the Intel would "smoke" the AMD. For the moment, there are plus's and minus's for each chip.

Just My Humble Observations.
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post #22 of 45
3/30/04 at 9:57pm
aw, the amd smokes the P4 whats new.LOL anyways you pay for what you want.
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post #23 of 45
3/30/04 at 11:59pm
looks great until you see the video card options or lack thereof. It has a 64 meg shared video chipset pos.

shame
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post #24 of 45
3/31/04 at 12:10am
Why choose P4 over the AMD 64? If someone would have given me the option of an 8790 w/ the only difference being the mb/cpu, I would've opted for the AMD 64 in a second. No questions asked.

Such a machine does not exist. That's why I chose the P4.
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post #25 of 45
3/31/04 at 11:36am
I took a walk and performed a poll of six repair shops. All six told me that the AMD processors burn out way before the Intel. In fact one had his wall covered with dead chips.
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post #26 of 45
3/31/04 at 1:59pm

AMD chips burn out faster :-) what???

Not that I don't trust your friend of a friend AMD chip story, but what are you talking about? How many of you have kept a computer longer than the chip lasted? Don't make me laugh. You'll want a new machine before your chip ever dies. This is INTEL propaganda. Plus, it makes no sense. The AMD chips, in general, are cooler than INTEL chips. This is definitely true of Athlon 64 vs P4. The fact is, that Athlon 64 chips beat the P4's in most tests because of the larger cache on the chip. If you want to pay for a P4 Extremely Expensive chip, you'll get similar performance. The only reason to buy a P4 laptop is that there aren't as many AMD 64 laptop makers, but hopefully that will change. I would have bought the 8790 if it had the AMD 64 chip, but it doesn't. I bought an emachines instead. I love my fast, quiet, 3 hours on a charge machine. Don't get me wrong -- the sagers are great machines for all of the options, but that doesn't mean INTEL is better than AMD. Anyway, that's my 2 cents.
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post #27 of 45
3/31/04 at 3:35pm
Wow, really makes, you think

Anyone know of any comparasions or benchmarking for the 64's, Could you even benchmark a 64 properly, Sounds like a reaserch project to me..YAYA

keep on posting..
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post #28 of 45
3/31/04 at 3:46pm
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Originally Posted by Brn2Crz
I took a walk and performed a poll of six repair shops. All six told me that the AMD processors burn out way before the Intel. In fact one had his wall covered with dead chips.

LMAO , here's a word of advice dont use the repair shop with the dead chips on the wall, sounds like they havent figured out the art of applying heatsinks on a processor yet.

Ive run AMD and Intel's all my life couldn't tell a longevity issue with either of them,

Also, most Guys that work at repair shops usually aren't the brightest of people.(only because the tend to hold a gruge with either intel or amd) etc.etc. PLUS you ever think that they are just telling you that because INTEL are more $$ ... !!! (light goes off) if they tell you oh a ya amd and intel are about the same as far as lastings goes, then what do you think your going to buy.?? uhmmm.. LOL .

Just a Thought from the Crazed mind of a Net admin with TMTOMH's
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post #29 of 45
3/31/04 at 3:46pm
Most AMD's burn out sooner than P4's because people OC them more often and push them more than they do with P4's..

The minute AMD 64 came out, people have been OC'ing it to death.. Yes P4 is OC'able, but you can push an AMD further and it costs less so there is less risk to push it further....so people do, and usually push it too far too fast and end up burning it up..

Who buys AMD's anyway? Us geeks.. lots of corporate-type worlds would prefer to pay more than take a chance on "new kid on the block".. it's changing, but slowly..

Just my opinion..
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post #30 of 45
3/31/04 at 4:25pm
Complete this sentence: AMD is to INTEL as __________ is to VHS.
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post #31 of 45
3/31/04 at 4:30pm
AMD is to INTEL as DVD is to VHS
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post #32 of 45
3/31/04 at 5:03pm
Brilliant, Clutchcargo, absolutely brilliant!
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post #33 of 45
3/31/04 at 5:14pm
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Originally Posted by Brn2Crz
Complete this sentence: AMD is to INTEL as PORN is to VHS.

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post #34 of 45
3/31/04 at 5:42pm

Win 64 benches

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Originally Posted by mac96024
Wow, really makes, you think
Anyone know of any comparasions or benchmarking for the 64's, Could you even benchmark a 64 properly, Sounds like a reaserch project to me..YAYA
keep on posting..
Here's one article with basis benchmarks using W64.
http://www.devhardware.com/c/a/Softw...4-Bit-Edition/

and another:
http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=60000256
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post #35 of 45
3/31/04 at 6:07pm
But seriously its just a matter of seconds, i can wait while my game loads i dont have to be the first one in there. i rather have quality than speed.
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post #36 of 45
3/31/04 at 6:16pm
Thanks, MARQUISDARQUIS
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post #37 of 45
3/31/04 at 6:30pm
Would love to buy a power notebook with Athlon FX-53, Athlon 64, etc... but reality: there are none (that I have found) that measure up to the overall power of a 8790, Inspiron XPS, and so on. Especially the chipset is a very big deal, Sis and Via chipsets simply are nowhere near as good/stable as Intel (in my experience). Have yet to find a notebook with an nForce chipset, though I read that the new nForce3-250 rocks totally and is stable too. So, show power notebook buyers (those folks who would even care about FX53 or A64 vs. P4/P4E/P4EE) a notebook with fast drives, big screen, dual-channel DDR, big video card, etc...

If there were an 8790 with WUXGA and nForce3-250 and FX-53 or A64, I would buy it, I have dollars sitting around waiting for either the 8790 to become avl. with WUXGA or for Dell to bring out a Latitude version of the Inspiron XPS with two onboard drives and mobo RAID. Show me an AMD-based notebook that can take on those two (for heavy I/O work in addition to gaming) with quality chipsets and you got my money!
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post #38 of 45
3/31/04 at 7:15pm
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Originally Posted by Q-Ball
But seriously its just a matter of seconds, i can wait while my game loads i dont have to be the first one in there. i rather have quality than speed.

then you should've gotten a 2.4ghz chip. cuz honestly. its just a couple seconds.... heh. ;D
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post #39 of 45
3/31/04 at 7:24pm

True but!!!

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Originally Posted by mac96024
Microsoft Windows: A thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell to a sixteen bit patch to an eight bit operating system originally coded for a four bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of competition
You are talking about Win9X not XP. Why? cause WinXP started out as WinNT, which was orignally developed by a guy named Dave Cuttler. Dave (I like the name) was one of the principale architects of the VMS operating system orignally developed at DEC. Sorry but both VMS and WinXP started out as 32 bit code right from the start and WinXP would be a fine OS if it weren't for MS's rediculas market stratigies dept.

I do not mean to defend MS; I know all to well just how much they suck, but at the moment their WinXP OS is as good or better then the alturnitives. Before anyone starts in preaching the virtues of Linux or OSX let me just say that I work with them all and am calling it like I see it at present. I believe as manny others do that the future will be quite different.

Let me finish by saying that AMD and Intel are just two companies, not a religon or political party. All most all of my current Hardware including my 8890V is Intel, but I have a real admiration for AMD compeeting so well against a company like Intel. They have done a marvolus job.

Cheers

Dave
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post #40 of 45
3/31/04 at 9:57pm
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Originally Posted by ifrit
then you should've gotten a 2.4ghz chip. cuz honestly. its just a couple seconds.... heh. ;D

Haha i didnt say minutes.
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