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post #1 of 16
5/24/07 at 7:55pm
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Hello,

I found a manufacturer offering a D900C with quad-core cpu.
http://www.cyber-system.de/product.p..._showoptions=1

What are Hypersonic's plans regarding QX6700?

Thanks in advance
rc
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post #2 of 16
5/24/07 at 8:53pm
What's that like $1000.00+? They can keep it. Oh and I have no idea about Hypersonic's plans for that. Supposedly they are going to offer DDR800 though.
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post #3 of 16
5/24/07 at 9:50pm
The quad core in a lappy although do able is not practical.

First is the heat, second it the extention cord you'll need because even though it will have a battery, it wont last. Third the applications are limited so why would you get one unless you are heavy engineering, video, or both.

Desktop is fine for quad or octo, not a lappy.
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post #4 of 16
5/24/07 at 11:41pm
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Well, I do not need a gaming machine but more of a "mobile server". Running multiple services in the background I would like the idea of having four cores available instead of two.

With my current notebook I am plugged in over 99% of the time so battery lifetime is not really an issue for me. I need to take the system to the customers and run it there.

The D900C design is the only one supporting three hard disks. Currently I have a ThinkPad A31p with three hdds (300GB PATA in total), but this model is no longer available from IBM/Lenovo probably due to lack of request...
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post #5 of 16
5/25/07 at 1:14pm
Not for quad, heat alone would be major issue.

If you need to set up a demo type situation for customers, I would use an SFF machine instead. You carry it in a small anvill case, have customer provide a monitor and you have a cooler running machine.

Also is a remote hook-up to server not practical for demo? Dont like the fact you are carring a server on your back all the time.
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post #6 of 16
5/25/07 at 1:58pm
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It's not only for demo purposes. The designated use is a balance of server, development machine, and multimedia device. As the resources of the new system have to last for at least three years plus I always think bigger is better. I have my ThinkPad A31p running for over 4,5 years now (and just realized that I have run out of service for 8 months... ) -- mostly due to the fact that this model has ceased -- and it really approaches its limits.

Maybe I should consider this one here: http://www.nextcomputing.com/products/nextdimevo.shtml (two dual-core CPUs, 16GB RAM, up to 8 hdds, multi-platform support)
But who wants to carry that equipment around each day?
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post #7 of 16
5/25/07 at 2:21pm
You are carring around a heavy laptop to begin with so what is the difference between the SFF and that? Not much, you still have to haul it where ever you need to demo.

That SFF is exactly what you need. You check out Hypes SFF? You have plenty of room for what you need.
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post #8 of 16
5/25/07 at 2:40pm
Yeah but the SFF is gonna weigh more, and you can't put it in a bag....
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post #9 of 16
5/25/07 at 2:59pm
How much more that SFF you listed is only 13lbs. compared to the Hype laptop which is like 10-11.

The Hype SFF doesnt need a bag it has a handle built right on it. And dont let the picture fool you it looks larger there than it does in real life. You would be surprised how easy it is to carry around.
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post #10 of 16
5/25/07 at 3:09pm
Wow, I didn't look at that link. That is pretty cool. It will still weigh more than a laptop though. As far as I can tell. Plus you'd need a monitor. It seems more professional to me, if you were to have a laptop than asking your clients if you can use one of their monitors.
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post #11 of 16
5/25/07 at 3:19pm
Not really most clients like to view stuff on a big screen and you would more likely plug into a projector or one of their big in house monitors so everyone could see what you are doing. Most clients when dealing with purchasing like to have an audience in attendence when demos are run.
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post #12 of 16
5/25/07 at 3:22pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SoloMan
You are carring around a heavy laptop to begin with so what is the difference between the SFF and that? Not much, you still have to haul it where ever you need to demo. That SFF is exactly what you need. You check out Hypes SFF? You have plenty of room for what you need.
Well, the difference is that notebooks have built-in keyboard and display...
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post #13 of 16
5/25/07 at 4:03pm
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I think the only advantage of Hypersonic's Phantom series is the use of 3.5'' hdds. Besides that you have no quad-core cpu (not even dual-core extreme like the EQ7), a limit of 4GB RAM (although at 800MHz), no BlueRay drive. The storage limit could be optimized using Hitachi's terabyte drive (7K1000).

From a pure technical point of view the "NextDimension Evo" system cited above makes a superior portable server system (two cpu sockets, 16GB RAM, multiple hdds). Plus you can clip an external display to the chassis. But presumably it will be at a totally different price level... (and every customer will think that she has to pay for your gadgets)
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post #14 of 16
5/25/07 at 6:58pm
I think they will know the difference between product and gadget, they didnt ask you to demo a gadget remember.

Yes the Hype sff doesnt compare but you can get it Bare Bones and set it up yourself, if you are into DIY machines. Other than that the Evo is your server machine.
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post #15 of 16
5/26/07 at 10:54pm
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I see. Bare-boned would be an option. But their shop says about $1.000 for an almost empty system. I guess I would opt for the original Q-Xpack or its successor Q-Xpack2 and have a completely invdidual configuration. My choices were:

1. Intel Board G965OTMKR
2. Core2 Quad Q6600
3. 8GB DDR2 800MHz
4. Blu-Ray Philips SPD7000BD
5. up to 4x HDD Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000
6. SCSI host adapter
7. 500-600W Enermax-PSU
(8. perhaps graphics card)

CPU cooling is space constrained but I found a quite promising water cooling solution:
http://www.alphacool.de/product_info...ng-system.html

But such a system would not replace my notebook, but my traditional pc-servers instead. The biggest problem with the SFF is the lack of a small portable, high-resolution TFT display. Besides NextComputing's special display I did not find anything useful. And a custom-made display would not be affordable. Perhaps the easiest solution were to take a small-frame display like Samsung's SyncMaster and adapt its housing. I hope that some manufacturer will take notice of that special needs.
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post #16 of 16
5/27/07 at 4:42pm
I think that the Evo did, that SFF they offer is really ideal for what you need.

I know the feeling about missing the laptop, but until they provide what you need in a Laptop, SFF is the next best thing.

Remember its being used for work, and you do what you have to do to get the job done. I have no problem dragging a SFF to a job if it means I will get the job or contract or the $$$. Its an inconvience you can live with.
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