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post #921 of 1526
12/13/04 at 12:11am

ATA buses in the 1712

I was looking at the service manual , and noticed something interesting.

The Intel ICH5 south bridge supports TWO IDE buses, each of which can
handle two devices.

But there's only a total of two IDE devices in the box. So I was wondering
what they did with the other possible connections. I assumed they just
used one bus, and left off the connector for the second bus. So the hard
disk would be the master on the (single) bus, and the DVD the slave.

But from the diagram, it looks like they have connectors for both buses!
The hard disk is on one, the DVD on the other.

This implies it should be possible to put a second device on EACH bus.
So you could (theoretically) connect TWO hard disks to the bus for the
hard disk - existing disk is the master, second is the slave.

Likewise on the DVD's bus.

So (theoretically) one could get two notebook-type (slim) drives, cram
them into the single full-sized-disk compartment, and do software
RAID! heh

But such a setup probably wouldn't be worth the trouble - as the
notebook-type disks are slower, so the net result probably wouldn't
be significantly faster than the single fast disk.

But I thought it was interesting. (-;

- Eric
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post #922 of 1526
12/13/04 at 12:19am

GPU overclocking?

I was playing around with OC'ing my GPU.

I got it up to 425/650 with a short test. running Doom3
in High Quality at 1280x1024. (It's marginally
playable at those settings, but I figured I'd try it).

After about 10 minutes I got out, and the GPU temp
was about 92C and dropping fast.

Does this seem too hot?

I also tried at 450/650 - and it worked! For about
10 minutes, then funny things began happening.
BTW it's quite playable at that speed!

I don't know where to get system and video benchmarks
- anyone know?

Also I don't know how to get the CPU temp. Anyone?

Thanks in advance.

- Eric
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post #923 of 1526
12/13/04 at 2:00am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric_Theis

Also I don't know how to get the CPU temp. Anyone?

- Eric

http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-Oakland/8259/
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post #924 of 1526
12/13/04 at 6:08am

Acer support dead pixel policy

Ran across this:
https://www.synapsenow.com/synapse/d...displaylcd.pdf

"The Limited Warranty does not extend to minor defects of LCD displays occurring in Products equipped with LCD display technology provided that there shall not be more than four (4) defective pixels per million pixels on a given LCD Display, and provided further that, if the display panel is divided into nine (9) equal rectangular areas, there shall be one defective pixel in the central area of the display.

The green Area in the middle is the central area of the display with no more then one defective pixel.


Resolution / overall pixel
640 X 480 X 3 = 921,600
800 X 600 X 3 = 1,440,000
1,024 X 768 X 3 = 2,359,296
1,280 X 1,024 X 3 = 3,932,160
1,400 X 1,050 X 3 = 4,410,000
"

The image didn't paste but the doc has it.

- Eric
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post #925 of 1526
12/13/04 at 1:00pm
Yes, Acer's dead pixel policy is no different than the industry standard.

Of course, with this being the best LCD I have ever seen in a notebook (of course it cheated being a desktop LCD ), I was greatly relieved that I received one with no bad pixels.
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post #926 of 1526
12/13/04 at 1:27pm
Hello to everyone,

First I want to say that this is a real nice forum with usefull trick and tips.
One thing I could not find on this forum but maybe I didn't look at the right places.

How do I disable my NVidia GeForce FX Go 5700 videocard and enable the integrated intel graphics controller from intel.


WJ

Acer Aspire 1712SMI - Intel Pentium 4 3.0GHz, 1GB RAM , 120GB Seagate HDD (7200 RPM), 17" DT SXGA (1280x1024) LCD, NVidia GeForce FX Go 5700 w/ 64MB, DVD-Dual Multi (DVD +/- R/RW), Internal 6-in-1 Card Reader, Internal 802.11b/g Wireless, Windows XP Home, Linux Fedora Core 2, 1 Year carry-in warranty.
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post #927 of 1526
12/13/04 at 4:22pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by wjvg
Hello to everyone,

First I want to say that this is a real nice forum with usefull trick and tips.
One thing I could not find on this forum but maybe I didn't look at the right places.

How do I disable my NVidia GeForce FX Go 5700 videocard and enable the integrated intel graphics controller from intel.


WJ

Acer Aspire 1712SMI - Intel Pentium 4 3.0GHz, 1GB RAM , 120GB Seagate HDD (7200 RPM), 17" DT SXGA (1280x1024) LCD, NVidia GeForce FX Go 5700 w/ 64MB, DVD-Dual Multi (DVD +/- R/RW), Internal 6-in-1 Card Reader, Internal 802.11b/g Wireless, Windows XP Home, Linux Fedora Core 2, 1 Year carry-in warranty.

Why would you inable an intel integrated GPU? THEY SUCK...no joke .
But you cant even if you wanted to since the 1712 has a 5700 not an intel integrated one.
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post #928 of 1526
12/13/04 at 4:43pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric_Theis
...

To UNIC:

Are you a UNIX guy? (-: I am.

Did your system behave exactly as I described when you had your problem
with the memory?

...
Used to be a UNIX guy 14 years ago and yes my system behave exactly as yours. I remember of one time that I removed the memory *with* the battery connected and luckily it did not fry anything although I would never do that again. You might want to try replacing the memory module and see if that solves your problem.
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post #929 of 1526
12/13/04 at 5:12pm

That's what you gotta do

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric_Theis
Oh, and I was dumb enough to NOT remove the battery before removing
the memory. What might I have fried?

- Eric
You gotta unplug power & pull out battery for good 15 min , better make 20 min for sure .
IF you got everything else ok, you will be ok.
I did pull out RAM stick & got bios running, WIN start page & after WIN start, LCD get black .
It is some safety MOBO fuse , its go back on after no power at all for 15 min or so .
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post #930 of 1526
12/13/04 at 5:20pm

Nah man

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric_Theis
Also, there is no point in going to SATA. The fastest (PC) disks around
can only do about 70MB/s platter-to-head reads, and even then over
only part of the platter's surface. (www.tomshardware.com)

ATA100 can handle 100MB/s transfers.

- Eric
I DID try SATA 10.000 RPM 74GB Raptor HDD from WD
It got 150 MB/s
MOBO can handle 100MB/s , but i thought if i got SOLID, STABLE 100MB/s & 10.000 RPM it was still worthwhile .
BUT that SATA / IDE adapter don't fit.
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post #931 of 1526
12/13/04 at 5:34pm

Heh other cook :)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric_Theis
I was playing around with OC'ing my GPU.

I got it up to 425/650 with a short test. running Doom3
in High Quality at 1280x1024. (It's marginally
playable at those settings, but I figured I'd try it).

After about 10 minutes I got out, and the GPU temp
was about 92C and dropping fast.

Does this seem too hot?

I also tried at 450/650 - and it worked! For about
10 minutes, then funny things began happening.
BTW it's quite playable at that speed!

- Eric
GO back @ my post #877
I got O'c @ 416 / 715 & GPU temp under 80 C
Are you going boil water for tea ?
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post #932 of 1526
12/13/04 at 7:09pm
The NVidia GeForce FX cards override the integrated graphics on the Aspire 1710 series when installed.

Therefore, you would probably need to remove the AGP card from the bottom base to use the integrated graphics. However, I do not remember where the LCD cable would need to be connected at that point.
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post #933 of 1526
12/14/04 at 4:43am
Ok, now a different little problem.

When I press the Num Lock button, the indicator LED turns ON and then OFF immediately, but the numeric keypad has been activated. If I press the button again, the led again turns on and again off and the keypad deactivates.

Has anyone experienced something like that? A hardware or software problem?
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post #934 of 1526
12/14/04 at 4:44am
Quote:
Originally Posted by crappy_baka
Why would you inable an intel integrated GPU? THEY SUCK...no joke .
But you cant even if you wanted to since the 1712 has a 5700 not an intel integrated one.
Because my 5700 broke down. Some condensator/resistor was blown away.
And it can be usefull when you get tired of the noise that the fan is making when the computer isn't used for some serious gaming.

No I am a little confused. I am pretty sure that there is an integrated graphic controller. The 5700 is just an add-on.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DWStrickland
The NVidia GeForce FX cards override the integrated graphics on the Aspire 1710 series when installed.

Therefore, you would probably need to remove the AGP card from the bottom base to use the integrated graphics. However, I do not remember where the LCD cable would need to be connected at that point.
Is there anyone who knows? It should be possible. I read some about this in this message: http://hardware.mcse.ms/message82406.html

I am also trying to reduce the noise that the fans/exhaust are making.


WJ

Acer Aspire 1712SMI - Intel Pentium 4 3.0GHz, 1GB RAM , 120GB Seagate HDD (7200 RPM), 17" SXGA (1280x1024) LCD, NVidia GeForce FX Go 5700 w/ 64MB, DVD-Dual (DVD +/- R/RW), Internal 6-in-1 Card Reader, Internal 802.11b/g Wireless, Windows XP Home, Linux Fedora Core 2, 1 Year carry-in warranty.
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post #935 of 1526
12/14/04 at 5:52am
Quote:
Originally Posted by wjvg
Because my 5700 broke down. Some condensator/resistor was blown away.
And it can be usefull when you get tired of the noise that the fan is making when the computer isn't used for some serious gaming.

No I am a little confused. I am pretty sure that there is an integrated graphic controller. The 5700 is just an add-on.



Is there anyone who knows? It should be possible. I read some about this in this message: http://hardware.mcse.ms/message82406.html

I am also trying to reduce the noise that the fans/exhaust are making.


WJ

Acer Aspire 1712SMI - Intel Pentium 4 3.0GHz, 1GB RAM , 120GB Seagate HDD (7200 RPM), 17" SXGA (1280x1024) LCD, NVidia GeForce FX Go 5700 w/ 64MB, DVD-Dual (DVD +/- R/RW), Internal 6-in-1 Card Reader, Internal 802.11b/g Wireless, Windows XP Home, Linux Fedora Core 2, 1 Year carry-in warranty.


Try calling acer and asking for a new Video card. If you still have your warrenty then everything should be fine.
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post #936 of 1526
12/14/04 at 7:49am
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Originally Posted by crappy_baka
Try calling acer and asking for a new Video card. If you still have your warrenty then everything should be fine.
Already did that. They gave me a repairnumber and now UPS is bringing it to an Acer repaircenter in Germany.
Just wanted to know how to get a picture without the 5700.

WJ

Acer Aspire 1712SMI - Intel Pentium 4 3.0GHz, 1GB RAM , 120GB Seagate HDD (7200 RPM), 17" SXGA (1280x1024) LCD, NVidia GeForce FX Go 5700 w/ 64MB, DVD-Dual (DVD +/- R/RW), Internal 6-in-1 Card Reader, Internal 802.11b/g Wireless, Windows XP Home, Linux Fedora Core 2, 1 Year carry-in warranty.
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post #937 of 1526
12/14/04 at 6:52pm
Have you tried removing the AGP video card? I can't remember off the top of my head if the LCD cable is directly attached to the video card or not.
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post #938 of 1526
12/14/04 at 7:44pm
Hi guys,

My 1711's back from its trip to the Acer UK repair centre and the 128mb nvidia graphics card has arrived from their spares department as well. Its time for me save my baby from the useless integrated graphics and give it a new lease of life with the nvidia solution. One thing troubles me though, and i'm hoping you guys can help. My problem is this, i need to know exactly how to install the graphics card, what to plug in etc etc, basically how to get the thing in the machine. I've done tons of building of desktop machines but never a laptop. Please help guys, am scared of destroying my baby and flushing £200 of graphics card down the loo. So a walkthrough of the process would be much appreciated, or even better a pdf of the service manual, then i can do it myself. Then i post pics for you when it works!!!!
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post #939 of 1526
12/14/04 at 10:03pm

GPU drivers

I just waste last 24 h on my lappy just trying find some good GPU drivers.
& i must say, the factory one are got best benchmarks.
With each drivers , what was accepted my lappy , i try bechmark without o'c, with default o'c & with max o'c , each of them with performace & high performace settings.
The performace got better score then high performace.
The omega drivers 61.77 got 90 marks less then the stock 53.51
I did try almost every driver from http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/ & i do not find better one then that stock 53.51
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post #940 of 1526
12/15/04 at 3:07am
Quote:
Originally Posted by kryten16
Hi guys,

My 1711's back from its trip to the Acer UK repair centre and the 128mb nvidia graphics card has arrived from their spares department as well. Its time for me save my baby from the useless integrated graphics and give it a new lease of life with the nvidia solution. One thing troubles me though, and i'm hoping you guys can help. My problem is this, i need to know exactly how to install the graphics card, what to plug in etc etc, basically how to get the thing in the machine. I've done tons of building of desktop machines but never a laptop. Please help guys, am scared of destroying my baby and flushing £200 of graphics card down the loo. So a walkthrough of the process would be much appreciated, or even better a pdf of the service manual, then i can do it myself. Then i post pics for you when it works!!!!
Hi I have the same problems with top half being very dim, can you tell me please the phone number you used to ask them to come pick your laptop?

Also, were did you purchased the spare parts? Did you tell acer by the phone or ordered them online?
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