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Intel to Release Quad Core CPUs for Notebooks in 2008

post #1 of 18
6/4/07 at 1:55pm
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i hope that the new line of the xps has this.. it will be crazy fast with a 8800...
here is the link.
http://www.laptoplogic.com/news/deta...a5c9ab8f422091
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post #2 of 18
6/4/07 at 3:01pm
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Originally Posted by ICECOLD
will be crazy fast with a 8800...
If it has a fast graphics card then, yes, it will be fast in games. The quad-core, on the other hand, will not do you much good for quite some time to come. Until applications, and games in particular, are coded to take advantage of the parallelism offered by such processors, most people will be quite disappointed by the small difference in performance you see when going from dual-core to quad-core. Writing complex applications in such a way that they show good speedup factors on multi-processor systems is hard, however...
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post #3 of 18
6/4/07 at 3:24pm
In another thread I posted on a while back I had a link (can't find it now) showing that even games like Supreme Commander don't use 4 cores, or even use the ful potential of dual cores for that matter. The GPU's are the real bottleneck, not the processor.

The problem is Software developers are still working on making the most of 2 processors, let alone 4. There are a few application specific programs that can use 4 cores, but for the most part the average consumer is just starting to notice the benefits of the dual core processor.
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post #4 of 18
6/4/07 at 3:53pm
But I'd like a Quad Core computer with 8GB of memory and Vista 64 bit. Only possibble with a desktop because of the memory!
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post #5 of 18
6/5/07 at 9:34am
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Originally Posted by SolApathy View Post
In another thread I posted on a while back I had a link (can't find it now) showing that even games like Supreme Commander don't use 4 cores, or even use the ful potential of dual cores for that matter. The GPU's are the real bottleneck, not the processor.

The problem is Software developers are still working on making the most of 2 processors, let alone 4. There are a few application specific programs that can use 4 cores, but for the most part the average consumer is just starting to notice the benefits of the dual core processor.

It's not necessary have to be exactly like this. There exist coding API called OpenMP which automatically scale application to whatever number of CPU is available. If application use OpenMP it doesn't have to be designed for 2 CPU, but for whatever number available. Of cause that's not always possible, but complex physics simulation for example usually quite OpenMP friendly. The same go for some of AI algorithms.
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post #6 of 18
6/5/07 at 8:39pm
As my post stated, software developers are just starting to use the capabilities of dual cores on the consumer level apps. I never stated there wasn't an MP API available. The problem is utilizing that API & dealing with issues that hamper MP performance gains, such as Amdahl's law, shared memory bandwidth, proper load balancing, lack of evolved error handling routines...etc..


Until these & other issues are addressed the advantages of multi-core systems, and specifically apps that have MP code will be limited.
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post #7 of 18
6/5/07 at 8:55pm
what are you going to do with 8gb of memory?
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post #8 of 18
6/5/07 at 8:56pm
so he can put on his sig -8GB RAM ? ....Or go crazy with Virtualization
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post #9 of 18
6/6/07 at 7:34am
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Originally Posted by Pirx View Post
...Until applications, and games in particular, are coded to take advantage of the parallelism offered by such processors, most people will be quite disappointed by the small difference in performance you see when going from dual-core to quad-core...

So you're saying this might be overkill at the moment?
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post #10 of 18
6/6/07 at 12:55pm
lmao
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post #11 of 18
6/6/07 at 5:58pm
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Originally Posted by stuckinasquare3 View Post
what are you going to do with 8gb of memory?

8GB is very useful for engineering and CAD programs of complex or very large models. Especially when you're doing FEA. And I've run into design stuff where you put 14,000 + holes in a pattern on a tube and Pro Engineer takes over 2 hrs to generate the model. So 64 bit and 8GB of memory would be awesome for engineering software.

Plus, QUAD Cores are awesome for video processing software.
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post #12 of 18
6/7/07 at 12:33am
Quad cores mean new platforms for laptops, and that mean a possible memory upgrade over 3.2 gigs. And quad cores do help con insane games like SupCom when you play 3v3 x>500 units each... But then again, i hat SupCom for its requirements (even if 4k units on a 4v4 map on TA could generate the same Cpu load as SupCom.
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post #13 of 18
6/7/07 at 12:35am
Supreme commander does not even utilize 4 cores. I posted data on it in a previous thread. It can fully utilize 2 cores, but core 3 & 4 are completely idle.
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post #14 of 18
6/7/07 at 12:39am
Even after the Modded patch? thats wierd, i will check that one more time in the morning.
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post #15 of 18
6/7/07 at 12:47am
It increases performance of systems overall. It did not address being able to use all 4 cores.
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post #16 of 18
7/30/07 at 6:06pm
I have to agree , at school we do conventor simulations for nems stuff (designing chipsets and nano sensors). The whole room has older XPS pentium 4 systems with a gig of memory and modeling takes about a hr or two depending on how complex. We loaded the software onto my e1705 (dual core, 32 bit still , but 2 gigs of ram) and it took about 50 minutes only, but the software is a pain, it conects to the server and validates itself every time it runs. So no pirating that . . . damnit haha
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post #17 of 18
7/30/07 at 6:29pm
Quad core to be honest, is pretty un-necessary at the moment with the exception of engineers. However, if you have the money especially after the quad core drop...go for it. We may be surprised at utilization before we may expect
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post #18 of 18
7/30/07 at 6:36pm
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Originally Posted by stuckinasquare3 View Post
what are you going to do with 8gb of memory?

just think of how many pr0n movies you could simultaneously stream with that...
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