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Vista or XP? Question about current gaming performance

post #1 of 24
6/7/07 at 7:12pm
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Hi all, I just got a new HD for my laptop and am in the process of backing everything up before I swap them out.

I am of course reloading my OS and everything, and was considering giving Vista another try. My concern is that I will see the major FPS drops I saw from when I did it a few months ago (Maybe around Feb?) where I lost about half my FPS in certain games.

Is this still an issue for Nvidia based cards? Specifically the 7800GTX.

I can put up with some small drops, within 5-10max FPS, but not the 20-40 I was seeing.

Thanks for your help in advance.
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post #2 of 24
6/7/07 at 7:21pm
I was running BF2142, and STALKER on my old E1705 with 7900GTX on Vista, and everything was running fine.
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post #3 of 24
6/7/07 at 7:26pm
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Originally Posted by ACHlLLES View Post
I was running BF2142, and STALKER on my old E1705 with 7900GTX on Vista, and everything was running fine.
Thats great news, thanks for replying. All rubbing it in with your 7900GTX.
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post #4 of 24
6/7/07 at 7:33pm
I said OLD lol. I kind of miss it!
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post #5 of 24
6/7/07 at 7:48pm
You can always set up a dual boot...personally I'm sporting xp + kubuntu now and I really dont see the need to try another OS other than maybe mac but im not into that whole osx86 community. Anyway, achilles, why did you sell your system just to get a new one?
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post #6 of 24
6/7/07 at 8:02pm
I originally thought of selling it, and getting a desktop, because I hated looks on E1705. Guy from local area offered decent offer, and I just decided to take the loss, and get better looking M90 with lower performance, but with GPU warranty. I was going to wait for the new inspiron 17 series, but who knows when good GPU will come out, so I just went for a cheap M90 form Ebay.
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post #7 of 24
6/8/07 at 8:28am
I'd really, really, really recomend you stay with XP for now. I got the following-
XPS1710
C2D 2ghz
1gig ram
7900GS

with vista. WoW was pretty much unplayable on any settings due to jerky-animations, even when the FPS was at 30+. My music production software had the same issue, the level graphic bars just jumped around. Tried every graphics driver under the sun, did as destructive recovery 3 times.

Now XP is on it, WoW with everything Maxed out 30-40FPS no problem. Whole system feels 10 times more responsive.
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post #8 of 24
6/8/07 at 1:19pm
i dont think there is much problem in running games in vista. i have the same config as the person before me but 2gb ram. i think having 2gb for vista helps a lot.

i have played supreme commander, cnc3, fear,oblivion etc on my 7900gs and vista. no problems. so your 7900gtx should even do better. i do have xp on another partition but i have no games installed on it as they run great on vista.
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post #9 of 24
6/8/07 at 1:22pm
I think the generality here is gaming=xp and daily stuff=vista........so many ppl have complained about Vista performance issues which is why I havent even bothered w/ it yet. Plus i dont really feel like driver hunting and then troubleshooting when problems arise, as i know they most likely will.

However there have been those few lucky rogues who get vista to run flawlessly (curse you lucky dogs, im jealous cuz im not blessed with such luck)

I guess you could try dual boot as one said above...GL
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post #10 of 24
6/8/07 at 1:27pm
I wouldn't even bother to play BF2 or 2142 without at least 2 gigs, and even more so use Vista with out the 2 gigs of RAM going.
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post #11 of 24
6/8/07 at 9:29pm
Using a USB drive or even a 2 or large SD card and using it for Superfetch will gretaly improve performce for everyday use if you don't have 2 gigs. But as Dave-p said, 2 gigs is a must for vista and gaming. I have a 7900gtx and 2 gigs with my vista ultimate and I have no trouble running most games. Oblivion and Double agent, well that is a whole differnet story. Funny thing RB6 Vegas runs pretty decent at 1440X900. Any higher resolution and no chance lol. As for me I enjoy gaming with vista. It's a comprimise for now but it will surely get better, and who knows it may even surpase XP eventually.

For my home system I am running a single 8800 gts with a 680i board with Vista X64 and 4 gigs and thing run silky smooth. The new 158.45 seem to be the best so far. I can score 10400 3dmark06 with that system.
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post #12 of 24
6/8/07 at 9:30pm
IMO Vista will only get better.
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post #13 of 24
6/8/07 at 9:56pm
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Originally Posted by ACHlLLES View Post
IMO Vista will only get better.

Woul have to agree totally.
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post #14 of 24
6/8/07 at 10:19pm
Well, it cant get any worse.
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post #15 of 24
6/9/07 at 10:14am
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Ok, well I am running Vista, and last night played some HL2, and Vista does not even come close to touching XP's gaming performance. I was lucky to keep it about 25FPS, even without all settings maxed. Under XP I ran every single option HL2 offered.

I have 2GB of memory, wouldn't consider this laptop to be an XPS without it.

Thanks for the replies, but unless some driver set out there makes the difference, I think I need to go through with all the crap returning this to XP and reinstalling everything. I have tried Dell's drivers (I think 97.xx) and some drivers from here that people seemed to really like (158.xx I believe).
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post #16 of 24
6/9/07 at 10:54am
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Well tried the 101.70 drivers, and loaded up HL2, I am not getting 90-120 FPS with everything maxed. Using FSAA caused the game to crash after a minute, but I don't really need it so I turned it back off and everything was fine.

Thanks for everyones help, I will try some other games and make sure things are good.
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post #17 of 24
6/9/07 at 11:05am
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Originally Posted by VulnoX View Post
Ok, well I am running Vista, and last night played some HL2, and Vista does not even come close to touching XP's gaming performance. I was lucky to keep it about 25FPS, even without all settings maxed. Under XP I ran every single option HL2 offered.

I have 2GB of memory, wouldn't consider this laptop to be an XPS without it.

Thanks for the replies, but unless some driver set out there makes the difference, I think I need to go through with all the crap returning this to XP and reinstalling everything. I have tried Dell's drivers (I think 97.xx) and some drivers from here that people seemed to really like (158.xx I believe).

Yeah, I have about the same specs as you on my 9300 and performance on XP is definitely better (I used the 158.18 and am now on the 165.01 driver)

I ran the Counter-strike stress test before upgrading to vista and got 88 fps on average, and on vista I'm getting ~75 fps. The dell vista driver was the worst, I got like ~ 45 fps with that. I'm at least glad for the newest nvidia drivers out. Still, while playing games I notice sudden decreases in fps at moments and it can make my gameplay shaky, a bit annoying

It's funny when vista came out Microsoft hailed it as the definite gaming platform, the results are totally contradictory.
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post #18 of 24
6/10/07 at 8:24am
i think microsoft might have might have meant the next-gen games supposedly the dx-10 ones. who knows. sooner or later it will happen. same with 98 and xp i guess.
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post #19 of 24
6/10/07 at 4:47pm
I'm pretty sure that statement was not supposed to be interpreted as "good dx10 support in a year or two when it becomes standard but lacking with dx9 support"
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post #20 of 24
6/10/07 at 11:09pm
Specs in sig and I play the following flawlessly on Vista on Highest settings @ 1920x1200:

BF2
UT2k4
C&C3
SupCom
Test Drive:Unlimited
Flatout 2
Company of Heroes
Dawn of War
CoD2
Stalker
Oblivion
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