AMD64 notebook SHIPPED... arriving in 3 days :) - Page 8

Well, my expectations are low in the first place. It took Microsoft 5 years to fix Windows '95 when they released Windows 2000.

How did you rate getting any kind of badge from Cyberpower??? Mine didn't come with any. I wound up making my own (see my other recent post for pics).

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I'm not sure.. I'm wondering if they forgot to remove it from the box, or if they recently started getting these from another distributor. Kind of odd really.

I personally think that the manufacturer ships them without any case badge so vendors are free to attach their own (much like most generic desktop PC cases). That's my theory, and I'm sticking to it...

I believe a bunch of people are missing the point I brought up with my post or just didn't read it and hopped into the frey. The thing I don't understand is how 2 computers from the same manufacturer (Mitac 8355) with the same or close to the same internals are scoring so low on benchmarks.

As for Voodoo and their upgrade policy.... hahahaha is all I can say. Do 3 to 4 hours of reading on those forums and you will learn the truth about their policy.

why don't u save us some time and explain it here as you've obviously read their forum..??

i wouldn't say ~2700 3dmark2003 as something low .. someone got ~3000 on the oc'ed card, and it's about right for an M10P-based laptop to get that number ..

i played far cry at 1400x1050x32bit (non AA/AF) without a hitch .. and i think that's what really matters for me

Im going the Hypersonic route on this one. Why?

1 - Dead Pixels Policy. Yes you guys have had great luck with Ibuy/Cyber, but, considering that, my 21" Dell has no Dead Pixels, my work laptop has none, my Planar 1801 has none, several of you have none, well it's time.

2 - 3 year warranty that IS TRANSFERRABLE for resale value

3 - Hypersonic lets me open the thing up and put my own mini-pci wlan card in for Dlink Turbo mode that I have set up (the turbo g stuff is proprietary among manufacturers.)

To me personally it's worth a few extra bucks especially on the warranty/resale value.

Don't be so sure that WinXP64 isn't close to release date --

Might be a soon as June, according to this article:

flexbeta article

Once that's out, and vendors have a "choice" (as much as the M$ monopoly gives them -- M$ products or death) of offering the 64-bit OS instead of the 32-bit version with your 64-bit computer, you'll see games and drivers and every darn thing come out of the woodwork in droves.

June, can't wait

I provided links to 2 different mitac 8355 machines in this very thread, I can't make it any more easier for you.

and both has nothing to do with voodoo upgrade policy .. one is about a guy who feels happy on his m:855 buying, and another one shows ~2750 3dmark03 on default speed, which as he stated being "pretty good" ...

10,500 3dmark01 IS good for M10P based laptops (i'm sure with even more overclock, one can get that 11,000 score), even the M11 gets ~12,000 .. so it's not slow at all .. it's about as fast as one can get in notebook.

Sorry that I could not read your mind since you quoted my entire post and not just the part you were interested in.

The 2 links that I posted were comparing Rincewind's 3400 mitac 8355 vs a 3000 mitac 8355 which scored higher and I was wondering why, plain and simple. The comparison to the Voodoo benches were also higher than his substantially and I quoted the benchmarks in my post.

The Voodoo upgrade policy is really a joke, sorry but that is my opinion. They seem to mislead the customer into believing that when future technology becomes available, that people could ship their notebook in and enjoy the benefits of the new technology. Lets take the mitac 8355 for example. I bet there isnt one person that has this laptop that wouldnt absorb the cost of sending it to their repective manufacturers for the gpu to be upgraded to the 9700. That to me would be an "upgrade". What Voodoo fails to be extrememly explicit about is that they will only offer upgrades that were provided by the ODM. So unless Mitac decides to offer this upgrade, Voodoo wont.

You can also read about the customer woes over the Voodoo 360's

guys about the 800 mhz issue, some guys found out a solution to it. I own a M6805, running WinXP PRo. All you got to do is download AMD Powernow latest version, and before installing it, go to the compatability tab (right clicking on the file you downloaded) and select WIN2000...and VOILA! it installs, and after that you'll have an powernow tab under POWER OPTIONS in control panel. It works in my m6805, i think it will work in yours.
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My primary desktop is a AMD 64-3400 with a Radeon 9800 XT, I love it to death, but the reason I got it had nothing to do with 64 bit OS or the promise of future 64 bit games. I got it due the fact it was benching out to be even faster than the hottest non -EE intel offerings running 32 bit win XP-pro, at a fraction of the EE intel cost.

You can get the beta of 64 bit XP now, and it has tested slow so far. Be wary, very very wary of pumped up performance claims. When MS finally releases the commercial OS, expect a long ramp up of driver optimizations and so forth. Also keep in mind that the 64 bit OS will run 32 bit apps SLOWER than the older 32 bit OS (it will be running them in a 32 bit emulator, and one that MS admits will suffer performance wise). Unless all of your software happens to be native 64 bit, expect an overall system slowdown. I would listen to the promises of 30% performance improvement in the 64 bit OS from any developer with a healthy dose of skepticism. You have no way of knowing what kludge OS they used to run their test, what tradeoffs in OS stability they made, what homemade graphic drivers they may have used.. etc..

Sure sometime down the road WinXP 64 bit will rock all of our worlds, but you can rest assured, you will be looking at very different hardware by the time that comes to pass. Any system you have now will be obsolete by the time WinXP 64 reaches critical mass in the commercial sense. By the time enough of your software is native 64 bit, by the time ATI tweaks their video drivers enough, by the time the motherboard drivers are optimized etc, you will want a new machine..... for now just be content that AMD makes a great alternative to the Intel near monopoly.

I still wouldn't trade my AMD64-3400 desktop for any non EE Intel alternative ... but the hope of 64 bit gaming doesn't enter in the the equation in the least ...

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Please also note the last line of text in the article...

which more likely means the opposite?