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post #1 of 22
6/28/07 at 11:52am
Thread Starter 
Anyone know if the stock 1720 (ordered with one HD) comes with BOTH caddies? I'd like to put my own 2nd hard drive in.

I used to have an HP 17" that had dual drive capability, but it only shipped with one caddy (and just a cover for the second).

Also, I haven't seen any pics of the underside of the 17". Is that where the dual drive bays are, or are they slide-outs on the side like the current (old) models?

Thanks!
post #2 of 22
6/28/07 at 12:13pm
Save your money and hang on to your 1705 IMHO
post #3 of 22
6/28/07 at 12:18pm
Thread Starter 
Thanks for sharing your opinion, but i'm not really looking for help deciding if I should keep my E1705 (which, BTW, I sold about a month ago).

Any idea about the caddies question?
post #4 of 22
6/28/07 at 3:02pm
The Hard Drives are located under a cover on one of the front corners of the 1720. However, I don't know if the system will have an empty caddy inside the 2nd bay if you order the Laptop without a 2nd drive. Dell has the caddies keyed so Drive 1 can't be inserted in drive 2's slot and vice versa. If you had to buy the caddy you'd have to make sure it was a Drive 2 caddy.

However, Dell ships extra hard drive caddies with their desktops, don't see why they wouldn't with the new Laptop. Might want to wait until someone buys one and they can tell you for certain.
post #5 of 22
6/28/07 at 4:59pm
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Originally Posted by dougadamsfan View Post
Save your money and hang on to your 1705 IMHO
HD is the single biggest bottle neck in any modern computer. Having Raid 0 as an option is a huge improvement for power users.
post #6 of 22
6/28/07 at 5:03pm
Does it have a RAID controller? The basic spec list on the website doesn't state it.
post #7 of 22
6/28/07 at 6:24pm
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Originally Posted by Jeff Flowerday View Post
HD is the single biggest bottle neck in any modern computer. Having Raid 0 as an option is a huge improvement for power users.

I think huge is an exaggeration. We were talking about this somewhere else and found that in reality, it's not so huge. His E1705 would suffice, I guess if he wants an 8600 tho, then he will enjoy the E1720
post #8 of 22
6/29/07 at 12:37am
Some of us want new technology along with features never before to be had on the E1705. I can't wait until Dell puts a "better" graphics card in the 1720 so that the haters will stop complaining.
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Originally Posted by dougadamsfan View Post
Save your money and hang on to your 1705 IMHO
post #9 of 22
6/29/07 at 12:42am
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Originally Posted by AdamLJ View Post
Some of us want new technology along with features never before to be had on the E1705. I can't wait until Dell puts a "better" graphics card in the 1720 so that the haters will stop complaining.
Personally, I could care less about some battery-draining, heat-generating, super-performance video card for the 1720. I'm not about that. Sure, I want something better than integrated, and I think the 8600 fits the bill. But, I agree with you...for me, it's about having the latest technology...the ability to have LOTS of hard drive space (in the future, dual 500GB drives?), built-in EVDO broadband, and, of course, the midnight blue cover!
post #10 of 22
6/29/07 at 12:53am
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Originally Posted by AdamLJ View Post
Some of us want new technology along with features never before to be had on the E1705. I can't wait until Dell puts a "better" graphics card in the 1720 so that the haters will stop complaining.

Don't worry, it won't happen. There is no 2nd fan. Therefore, a better GPU is highly doubtful.
post #11 of 22
6/29/07 at 11:16am
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Originally Posted by pdonket View Post
I think huge is an exaggeration. We were talking about this somewhere else and found that in reality, it's not so huge. His E1705 would suffice, I guess if he wants an 8600 tho, then he will enjoy the E1720
Well I never let the numbers decide. I have dual 10,000 RPM raptors in my desktop. Well worth the second drive for the performance increase I got from going from 1 to 2 in Raid 0.
post #12 of 22
6/29/07 at 11:23am
Not letting the numbers decide is only fooling yourself

It only shaves off maybe a second or 2 off load times and in simple tasks, it's not visible.
post #13 of 22
6/29/07 at 11:25am
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Originally Posted by pdonket View Post
Don't worry, it won't happen. There is no 2nd fan. Therefore, a better GPU is highly doubtful.
Utter nonsense. Do you seriously believe Dell designs their new laptop platform to lock themselves into one single GPU? I am sorry, but sometimes I am stunned by the sheer naivete of some of the people in here. I have a feeling that the average age of the posters on this board must have dropped precipitously in the last few months. Anyway, I digress... There is no doubt that the 1720s will received upgraded video options once they become available.
post #14 of 22
6/29/07 at 11:27am
The only thing RAID 0 in your laptop is going to do is make you wait less at the "LOADING" screen in your games. You won't get more FPS, you won't get better graphics. You'll just spend 2 seconds less time at the "LOADING" screen. The only reason I'm doing RAID 0 in my Desktop is because there's no important data on it (Just my game installs) and a pair of 250GB drives at the time was significantly cheaper than a single 500GB drive.

But yes, the 1720 does support RAID 0 or RAID 1
post #15 of 22
6/29/07 at 11:28am
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Uh, guys...have we not gotten a bit off topic here? I'm really interested in the drive caddies for the 1720, not the video card options that may or may not be available for the 1720....
post #16 of 22
6/29/07 at 11:32am
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Originally Posted by Pirx View Post
Utter nonsense. Do you seriously believe Dell designs their new laptop platform to lock themselves into one single GPU? I am sorry, but sometimes I am stunned by the sheer naivete of some of the people in here. I have a feeling that the average age of the posters on this board must have dropped precipitously in the last few months. Anyway, I digress... There is no doubt that the 1720s will received upgraded video options once they become available.
Look at the pictures. There is no dedicated GPU fan in the 1720. This means that they're not planning on putting in a GPU that produces enough heat to require its own fan. I know people keep talking about the new dies causing less heat and that's probably true, but you think that they're going to eliminate so much heat that it no longer requires a dedicated fan? I highly doubt it. No, I think the current hardware choices are going to be about the best graphics wise as they're going to offer in the 1720. If it's still around they might try to put in the next generation of cards (g90? I don't know) in, but you're still probably not going to see any "high performance" GPUs in the 1720 ever.
post #17 of 22
6/29/07 at 12:32pm
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Originally Posted by dougadamsfan View Post
Look at the pictures. There is no dedicated GPU fan in the 1720. This means that they're not planning on putting in a GPU that produces enough heat to require its own fan.
No, it means nothing of that sort. This is nothing but idle speculation based on next to no information. First of all, it is perfectly conceivable that they have already planned for a cooling solution which could deal with more heat dissipation. Second, next-generation cards may indeed give you performance similar or higher than the current top end, without requiring more cooling. Sure, you may not get the top-end of the cards coming out by the end of this year in these Inspirons, but you didn't get these in the previous generation either. Besides, it makes perfect sense for Dell to restrict the top-of-the-line graphics cards to their XPS line. The Inspiron are not, and were never meant to be gaming machines. Get an XPS if you want that. The Inspiron are middle-of-the-road general purpose laptops, and they serve that purpose quite well. They also compare favorably to offerings of Dell's competitors in that area.
post #18 of 22
6/29/07 at 12:43pm
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Originally Posted by Pirx
The Inspiron are not, and were never meant to be gaming machines.
You're right! They're meant to be budget gaming machines!
post #19 of 22
6/29/07 at 12:50pm
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Originally Posted by MrEvil View Post
The Hard Drives are located under a cover on one of the front corners of the 1720. However, I don't know if the system will have an empty caddy inside the 2nd bay if you order the Laptop without a 2nd drive. Dell has the caddies keyed so Drive 1 can't be inserted in drive 2's slot and vice versa. If you had to buy the caddy you'd have to make sure it was a Drive 2 caddy. However, Dell ships extra hard drive caddies with their desktops, don't see why they wouldn't with the new Laptop. Might want to wait until someone buys one and they can tell you for certain.
Yes the Dell Inspiron 1720/1721 both come with an 2nd empty caddy . You can put a second hard drive if you want. If you are only using 1 hard drive, you must put it in your primary drive caddy.
post #20 of 22
6/29/07 at 1:43pm
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Originally Posted by Pirx View Post
Utter nonsense. Do you seriously believe Dell designs their new laptop platform to lock themselves into one single GPU? I am sorry, but sometimes I am stunned by the sheer naivete of some of the people in here. I have a feeling that the average age of the posters on this board must have dropped precipitously in the last few months. Anyway, I digress...

There is no doubt that the 1720s will received upgraded video options once they become available.

Just as you say others base things off of nothing, you are too. Despite having die size drops upcoming, I don't think it will eliminate as much heat as you may hope. I think the days of budget gaming computers known as 17" inspirons are over. You can hope all you want. But I don't ever seen top performance occurring. Blame as much as you want on age, but I keep up with pretty much of this stuff staying around the forum and as a teen I can probably learn just as much as you but faster. Your age comments are getting old.
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