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post #61 of 98
The thing about DVD-R media is that quality makes a huge difference. Some brands you would expect decent quality from (memorex) use really crappy dyes. I've burned memorex DVD-Rs in my desktop pioneer DVD-R/RW drive and some things will read them, somethings won't. Whether these low quality discs will read on your device depends on the strength of the device's read laser.

I'll use Xbox's as an example. The read lasers in X-box drives are calibrated till they fall into a certain power range. Some end up on the lower end of the range, some on the higher. The ones that end up in the lower range often have trouble reading cheap media... my xbox for example. Using cheap discs like Princos, my xbox will only attempt to play my movie backups half the time. The ones that do load are often plagued with playback glitches. I can take these same discs and put them in my friend's xbox and they work fine. I can take these same discs and put them in my standalone DVD player and they work fine.

So to make sure I have no problems, I always use ritek media (or brands that use ritek dye). These discs have the best quality dye that I have found, and they've played in every device I've put them in.

If the discs are reading fine on other devices, it might be that the read laser on the 5100a is a bit weak for DVD-R. The discs seem to be writing fine though, so hopefully using better quality media will eliminate the weak read laser problem, if that is the problem...

All speculation of course.
post #62 of 98
does anyone have the original firmware or is there a place i can get the original firmware? i reflashed but didn't backup.. why i dunno. it's 12:50 and i'm tired.
post #63 of 98
Where can I download KProbe?
post #64 of 98
As with anything, google it.
stu
post #65 of 98
Yeah, I did that before posting. The site listed as the Kprobe homepage wouldn't load, so I was wondering if there was another resource.

For anyone else looking, I found it here.

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?threadid=92216
post #66 of 98
i burned on samsung dvd-r's they burned fine but can't read. grr
post #67 of 98
Ok just burned another identical disc this morning for peace of mind, and the NEC reports a CRC error with one of the files!!!



However, my old DVD/CDRW combo drive for my 8600 and my external drive report NO DAMN ERRORS!!!!! What the hell is wrong with the NEC drive?! Why does it find errors when there aren't any? Why does it then have trouble reading those so-called 'errored files' when the other drives have no problems!
post #68 of 98
Sorry about going off topic here, but has any one used Sonic 4X DVD+R ? Its $59 for a 100 pack, they also have Ritek 4X DVD-R 4.7GB for $69 with free shipping using coupon code weekly10.

http://www.shop4tech.com/user.htm?r=...ta=1&s_cata=88


thanks
post #69 of 98
william, firmware alone doesn't make a drive fully compatible. i play all my dvd-r's on a home dvd player and they work fine. I just can't read them. it's not that the nec has anything wrong with it. it's because it wasn't designed for reading -r's. i'm sticking with tdk +r's. it's nice know i can write to -r's but there is nothing wrong with burning +r's. (unless your home dvd player doesn't support it).
post #70 of 98
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiike
william, firmware alone doesn't make a drive fully compatible. i play all my dvd-r's on a home dvd player and they work fine. I just can't read them. it's not that the nec has anything wrong with it. it's because it wasn't designed for reading -r's. i'm sticking with tdk +r's. it's nice know i can write to -r's but there is nothing wrong with burning +r's. (unless your home dvd player doesn't support it).
I guess so...

Oh well! I guess the final word on the NEC is that it doesn't like Memorex DVD-R 4x. It burns them perfectly, but doesn't like to read them that well.
post #71 of 98
I reccomend the Ritek over the Sonic DVD+R's. The Ritek G04 Disks are the BEST money can buy. Since Ritek only produces one type of 4x DVD+R you cannot go wrong with them. Keep in mind they have purple dyes and can also be known as TDK 4x DVD+R's
post #72 of 98
My purple dye DVD+R 4x TDK discs report themselves as:

Disc Type = DVD+R
Manufacturer = Ricoh Company Limited
post #73 of 98
Flash to 5500 works great in burning varied disc types....anyone else's BIOS now report the optical drive as a plain old CD-ROM?
post #74 of 98
Yup, Dell hasn't included the NEC-5500A as a valid DVD burner type in their BIOS. Therefore the BIOS incorrectly define it as a generic CD-ROM. Thankfully Windows and more specifically Nero/Roxio correctly identify as a DVD burner.

Just to let you guys know that I also ran into problems with running the 5500A firmware on the 5100A. On certain DVD-R's, neither Nero or Roxio would identify the disc as DVD media. I ended up ordering the NEC-5500A from newegg.com and now have it installed in the D800. The 5500A came with the standard flat faceplate and I just ended up swapping it for the Dell grey slanted faceplate that came installed on the 5100A. By the way, these NEC faceplates are about the easiest I've seen to remove/replace. They are held on with 5 left-facing plastic hooks so you can simply slide the front faceplate off to the right and it is designed to snap back into place if slid back on to the left. Of course I was only able to do this since they are both OEM NEC drives and share common hardware. You wouldn't be able to use the faceplate from another drive manufacturer.
post #75 of 98
Hmmm...so it should be possible to flash back to the 5100a firmware using your USB flash key utility, as long as one backed up the Dell/5100a firmware before 'upgrading' to the 5500A firmware?
post #76 of 98
Quote:
Originally Posted by ofelas
Hmmm...so it should be possible to flash back to the 5100a firmware using your USB flash key utility, as long as one backed up the Dell/5100a firmware before 'upgrading' to the 5500A firmware?
Either that or select option 3. Flash back to ND-5100A DVD+RW firmware v10AC. That will return your burner back to it's original DVD+R/RW only.

Here's the info for the an actual ND-5500A with the original factory firmware.
Note: Nero Info Tool has since been updated from when I originally posted images of the 5100A back on page3 of this thread.


EDIT:
I just updated the DOS USB Flash utility used to flash the 5100A with the 5500A DVD+/- firmware. Included now is unedited RPCII OEM firmware that I dumped from my 5500A straight out of the shipping container. I've flash tested the 5100A with success but am too busy right now to perform any meaningful test burns to see if the OEM firmware will exhibit the same identification problems as the edited RPCI flash. If you can comment, please post your results. The updated NEC DVD Burner USB Flash Drive Firmware Utility can be downloaded from http://images.lunarpages.com/uxga/dos/usb/NEC.exe. Hacked RPCI firmware is still avail at http://images.lunarpages.com/uxga/dos/usb/5100A.exe.
post #77 of 98
Somms, thanks so much for doing this.

I'd love to be able to test a new 5500 firmware for my 5100, and see if it makes DVD-R more compatible. I've tried 3 NEC 5100 drives flashed to 5500s, with 3 different brands (dyes) of DVD-R 4x, and all burn 'fine' but report errors when CRC checked. I hope the 'proper' firmware fixes this.

Is there any chance you could make a firmware that doesn't need the key? I can't find where the files are extracted to, and I'd love to be able to flash my drive and report back.

Thanks!

(PS I just have a floppy drive and a cd drive. I boot to dos off a bootable cd, and then use the floppy drive for the files)


****EDIT****

Managed to make it work. Flashed it successfully to the version you have. Still says DVD-RW/CDRW drive though. (I'm on 2.07 of Nero infotool though...)

Test-burning a DVD-R to see results... will get back to you all.
post #78 of 98
Ugh! BAD news! DVD-Rs can't be burned on this drive now with that firmware. Damn! Gives an error using any program about incompatible media. Darn...
post #79 of 98
Switched back to the original hacked firmware for 5100 -> 5500, but again....DVD-Rs find crc errors...

http://members.aol.com/Wil4000/crcerror.JPG
post #80 of 98
Is there anyone that can confirm that they can read dvd-r's? I burn tdk no problem and get no crc errors. They play fine on my roommate's computer and on dvd players.
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