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post #1 of 17
7/3/07 at 9:37am
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hello all,
I am thinking of buying the new inspiron 1720 with the following specs:
-T7500 2,20 GHz
-Vista Premium
-WXGA+ (1440x900) TFT Truelife
-4096 mb ram
-160 gb hdd
-8600M GT 256 Mb

Will this configuration enable me to play Age of Conan (which comes out in a couple of months) at fairly high settings?
I still havent been able to find a review of the laptop, anybody know of one? I wont go out buying it before i find one.
I know that this laptop isnt made for gaming like the xps m1710 but id prefer a new laptop with good specs and good multimedia uses (and also decent gaming potential) than just a hardcore gaming machine.

Hope you guys can help,
Regards, Asbjoern
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post #2 of 17
7/3/07 at 12:27pm
It will run it, don't expect great performance or maxed out settings. The 8600 is a very weak card.

Take a look at this thread for perfomance comparisons.
http://www.notebookforums.com/thread195663.html
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post #3 of 17
7/4/07 at 8:25am
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i checked it out and it doesnt look too good. You reckon its possible to buy a different graphics card for the laptop or does it only work with the 8600?
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post #4 of 17
7/4/07 at 9:33am
It's possible, but you really couldn't get anything better in the 8 series until the 8800 comes out (probably in the fall). If you want a fast machine now, get the M1710, as it will be far better for video performance than the 8600 will (especially if you get the 7950GTX).
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post #5 of 17
7/4/07 at 10:22am
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Im not really fussed about excellent performance at the moment as long as i can make use of the new 8800 when it comes out. Reason i dont want the xps m1710 is that its relatively old with a new one version coming out fairly soon and besides i like the other multimedia functions in the 1720. Also im not really into the disco lights in the 1710
Im still searchin for a test of the 1720, anybody seen one?
Regards, Asbjoern
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post #6 of 17
7/4/07 at 11:38am
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Originally Posted by aycrox View Post
Im not really fussed about excellent performance at the moment as long as i can make use of the new 8800 when it comes out.
There is no guarantee that you will be able to (ie that it will just slot in, will be adequately powered and cooled, will be recognized by the bios, etc).
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post #7 of 17
7/4/07 at 12:23pm
If you must get a laptop now and want it to be a gaming machine, go to dell outlet and pick up a m90 with a 512mb graphic card (geforce 7900gtx). Make sure you get 3 year complete care with it. Those M90s are running at about $1800+ This way, you can save yourself couple of bucks!! Good Luck!!
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post #8 of 17
7/4/07 at 1:05pm
you aren't going to be dropping an 8800 in the 1720 w/ the cooling solution they are currently providing in that system (1 fan). You would be able to upgrade to the 8700, but that is just an oc'ed 8600.
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post #9 of 17
7/4/07 at 1:37pm
True but in many respects the 6800U is just an OC'ed 6800. Yet still, many people here felt the urge to upgrade when the 9300/xps2 bios was hacked.

Personally I wouldnt touch the 1720 with a 6 ft pole but I guess its a competitor with HP. Hopefully the XPS series will not stray from the tried and true formula.
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post #10 of 17
7/4/07 at 1:41pm
yes but there is a major difference. The comparison of the 6800/6800 Ultra was based on the top of the line card. the 8600 is my no means a top of the line card. Bumping the clocks on an already dissapointing card will meet with limited results...
The better comparison would be the 7900-->7950 , or the 8800--->8800/8850? whenever they decide to bump the clocks.
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post #11 of 17
7/4/07 at 1:51pm
I see your point and I just realized you were talking about the 7900gtx not the gs haha. I almost forgot those things existed.
The gap will be bigger than the 7900 -> 7950 imo (if the hardware doesnt limit what the clocks can do) but I guess the 6800 comparison may have been a little off by your point as well as the ddr3 vs ddr1
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post #12 of 17
7/5/07 at 11:03am
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Originally Posted by zzpulp View Post
Personally I wouldnt touch the 1720 with a 6 ft pole but I guess its a competitor with HP

Just out of curiosity, why? From a gaming viewpoint, or another?

Thanks
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post #13 of 17
7/5/07 at 11:24am
Just technical and cosmetic issues I have liked since the 9300 (and I guess before but this was the first that I used).

What the 1720 lacks:
Speakers on the front
No numpad (hehe lacks no numpad meaning it has one)
Centered touchpad
256-bit gpu ; I'm pretty sure a 6800go vanilla can run with the 8600m in games but I'll just have to wait and see
dvi (but thats not too big of a deal to me now, just seems like a step backwards)
7200 rpm HD (available at purchase time)
Good colors (I really like dark colors and the 1720 doesnt have any good ones imo)
Onboard video memory only (pretty sure it shares its memory with the system)

I dealt with this issue before I bought the XPS2. I looked at an HP that looked pretty good but after I saw the XPS2 and its capabilities/design I was hooked. To think I was gonna settle for an ati x600. I should slap myself. If I want an HP, I'll buy an HP but I like Dell's 9300/xps2 design. That said, I understand why they changed their design. It doesn't matter anyway as the next computer I buy will be a desktop (8900 ultra has a nice ring to it).
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post #14 of 17
7/5/07 at 11:44am
Quick question since you guys are are the topic of mobile GPU's.


How is a 7950 going to do against games like Crysis that are DX10 geared. I understand that the DX10 features will not show, but will the game still run smooth and fast or what? Thanks
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post #15 of 17
7/5/07 at 12:01pm
well running in DX9 you are going to lose a little eye candy, of course if you don't know it's there you will not miss it...


As far as gaming is concerned I cannot speak for the performance on games that are not released.

Here are the gaming requirements:
CPU: Athlon 64 3000+/Intel 2.8ghz
Graphics: Nvidia 6600/X800GTO (SM 2.0)
RAM: 768Mb/1Gb on Windows Vista
HDD: 6GB
Internet: 256k+
Optical Drive: DVD
Software: DX9.0c with Windows XP

Recommended Requirements

CPU: Dual-core CPU (Athlon X2/Pentium D)
Graphics: Nvidia 7800GTX/ATI X1800XT (SM 3.0) or DX10 equivalent
RAM: 1.5Gb
HDD: 6GB
Internet: 512k+ (128k+ upstream)
Optical Drive: DVD
Software: DX10 with Windows Vista


So I would say it will be able to play it alright. It's definitely not going to be a top performer, but mobile 7950GTX's are faster than desktop based 7800 GTX cards.
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post #16 of 17
7/5/07 at 3:01pm
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Originally Posted by zzpulp View Post
Just technical and cosmetic issues I have liked since the 9300 (and I guess before but this was the first that I used).

What the 1720 lacks:
Speakers on the front
No numpad (hehe lacks no numpad meaning it has one)
Centered touchpad
256-bit gpu ; I'm pretty sure a 6800go vanilla can run with the 8600m in games but I'll just have to wait and see
dvi (but thats not too big of a deal to me now, just seems like a step backwards)
7200 rpm HD (available at purchase time)
Good colors (I really like dark colors and the 1720 doesnt have any good ones imo)
Onboard video memory only (pretty sure it shares its memory with the system)

I dealt with this issue before I bought the XPS2. I looked at an HP that looked pretty good but after I saw the XPS2 and its capabilities/design I was hooked. To think I was gonna settle for an ati x600. I should slap myself. If I want an HP, I'll buy an HP but I like Dell's 9300/xps2 design. That said, I understand why they changed their design. It doesn't matter anyway as the next computer I buy will be a desktop (8900 ultra has a nice ring to it).

Uh, the 1720 has speakers up front and the 7200RPM hard drives will more than likely be added in the near future. There may be issues with supply, no way of telling.
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post #17 of 17
7/5/07 at 6:10pm
hmm I wonder where I saw a pic of no speakers on front?

Oh well, thats one plus
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