Dell M1730 Revealed Everything we feared is true! - Page 8

if they are 128bit, they will suck in sli, sli performance has improved with this new generation, but still 2x 128bit 8700 would not compete with a single 7950gtx

I still don't see a built-in eSATA port - and there's plenty of room for it on the new back panel.

Is that a guesstimation of fact?

Potential, sure I'll give you that. If a game could be designed around a top of the end processor it could have crazily realistic physics, more advanced AI and all of that jazz. But for now, as far as I know (which isn't always saying much), no game is designed specifically with features only possible on high end cpu's. They just run faster with the better cpu's, no features are unlocked like AA, motion blur, HDR and all the special effects you unlock with a better graphics card. Not that any of that really effects gameplay. Either way I'm still under the impression that the graphics card is the more limiting factor for modern games compared to processors. I'd take a Go 7950gtx with a C2D T7300 any day over a Go 7600 with a C2D T7600G. Someone steer me back on track if I have strayed.

Your logic is a little flawed. You cannot make a comparison like that. If course you are going to get better performance with a T7300/7950GTX over a Go7600/T7600G. The fact is with a 7600 video card the system is going to be GPU limited. with the 7950GTX the CPU is going to be the limiting factor. Considering the 7600Go pulls around 1900 on 3Dmark06 vs a 7950GTX that pulls 5200 scock.

Looks awesome!
But the touchpad is a little off center
I cant wait to see some benchmarks of this system

Yeah hopefully when it ships it doesn't look like that . If I was gonna order any notebook right now it would probably be from Rock. I almost got one until last minute Dell released the m1710 with the better card at the time (7900gtx 512mb).

http://www.rockdirect.com/viewNotebo...e=XTREME%20770

Anyways the new one that I think they just started shipping has some pretty nice options. Santa Rosa, 8700M GT 512MB, WUXGA.

Zero interest here. Ugly and not packing much punch.

I have been figuring my next big purchase would be a desktop anyway, but I was hoping for something to get excited about. This.....ain't it.

Im glad i bought my over spec M1710 and not waited for this hunk of junk!

Looks like something my little brother designed at school! As for technology on it, i dont really see anything of great interest! I was expecting a huge leap forward but it may be a leap back!

Hope that isnt the final design and its packing a lot more and has some more unique features!

Doesnt even have a finger print reader from the looks of it and they got rid of the sub, made it extremely thick which my m1710 is heavy enough, they probably got rid of the flashing lightfx!

As for the 3 fans it could be to spread the heat out beacause my M1710 gets extremely hot in the upper right corner where the gpu sits which makes it very hard to work off over times more than 15 mins!

I sure hope nothing happens to my m1710 beacause i wouldnt want that at the moment as a replacement!

The engineer must have been tipsy to even come up with that design even though im sure there are going to be more paint schemes but i would have rather had an all black than that, also i would say it looks more like a Max powered XPS of the laptop world than something designed by a bunch of professionals!

Only things i dont like about my M1710 is sound crackle with lightfx and this damn protective cover keeps coming away so easily! Otherwise love it!

I would buy it if I can afford dual cards, but if I SLI option is too expensive, I wouldn't go for single option alone.

I like the new keyboard. With the current Dell laptop, whenever I hit the spacebar, my thumb would hit the lower bezel. Finally, I will buy a Dell. The keyboard thing was the reason why my family brought 4 HP laptops over Dell

That depends what you are doing with your laptop. I often find disk performance to be the bottleneck, myself. For games, GPU is often the bottleneck (and certainly with this mock-up or whatever it is).

I don't game on mine much anymore. I'm looking forward to the new 1730, the 8700M is more than enough for me.

Again people, it's not Dell's fault they don't have a high end card to put in the new XPS...the blame lies squarely with nVidia for not being able to make an efficient design.

Also, the 1730 doesn't have two graphics card ports. The chipset is still an Intel chipset (as in not an nVidia one) SLi is done on the video board itself. If you do get SLI in the 1730 you are essentially getting a dual GPU board like the 7950GX2. Which doesn't require an nVidia chipset to use SLi.

There's still not been any preliminary benches for a mobile 8800 part and if there are any they must be under one hell of an NDA. It seems like nVidia's waiting for something else to happen (die shrink) before they make an enthusiast level mobile part. Right now they just have mainstream for the GeForce8 series.

The 1730 also has a Physics card in it (it was listed in the tear-down). So it will have some redeeming features despite weak GPU options. Still two 8600GTs (with undoubtedly better bus than is in the Inspirons) is better than one or none.

Good point. We're all just complaining here without thinking who's fault it is. How does this version of SLI compare to one that would have to use an Nvidia chipset? Does it provide similar performance gains? I seem to remember reading that the 7950G2X and the quad SLI that it enabled was not supported well by Nvidia as far as drivers and everything. By your estimation does it seem likely that Dell is really going to use this alternative version of SLI? IF not SLI, then why is the 1730 so big/have so many fans/need such a big power supply? All of this SLI stuff has left me a little confused if you can't tell. I'll likely just wait until I can get a single 8800m card in there however long it takes. I wonder if the physics card will really be worth it. As far as I have read they seem underutilized on the desktop side of things.

I dodnt have a chance to read throught his whole thread, but doesn't the 1730 look like somne sort of carbon fiber design, not just a "paint job".

If that's the case, It would be sooo much more accpetable.

From the pictures I have seen of it thus far, it simply looks to be thick carbon fiber snap on covers. If that is the case, then I am positive there will be many more designs to choose from somewhere down the line.

OK guy I have asked this question before but here is a laptop based on the new chipset and they are offering the 7950gxt in sli configuration. As well as the 8700m in sli configuration if the M1730 is offering sli then why not offer it with 7950gtx in sli ? You get the benefit of the new chipset and features with the power of the 7950gtx over the 8700m I know you are not getting Direct X10 capabilities but wouldn’t that be a win win and make the M1730 more appealing to all of us ?

http://www.xtremenotebooks.com/ look for the 917v this is the second company that I have seen offer this configuration.