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post #41 of 85
9/14/07 at 1:47pm
I'm not defending Dell in the least. I don't like corporations one bit to be honest. That said, I've aided numerous people trying to blind flash their cards and I'd say about 80% of the people that were unsuccessful went to Dell for a free replacement.

Its not like Dell just stripped us of overclocking ability with an update. I knew very well this thing wouldn't be able to OC when I bought it. Anybody that did the research would know the same. There are plenty of other brands to choose or computer systems to purchase if you don't like it this way.

Personally, I just needed a laptop for college. Once college is done, its back to desktops.
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post #42 of 85
9/14/07 at 2:44pm
Meh. Let's drop this. I just wish I had the ability to OC.
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post #43 of 85
9/14/07 at 2:58pm
anyways - back on topic. Let's not derail this thread too far from the OP as I'm keen as chips to get the modded BIOS... I wanna get my Lappy to that 2.8Ghz sweet spot
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post #44 of 85
9/14/07 at 3:08pm
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Originally Posted by joeboblock View Post
anyways - back on topic. Let's not derail this thread too far from the OP as I'm keen as chips to get the modded BIOS... I wanna get my Lappy to that 2.8Ghz sweet spot

Amen to that, it would be nice if it could unlock the multi for all Core Duo and Core 2 Duo chips. I don't want to have to buy a T7600 just to overclock it
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post #45 of 85
10/12/07 at 11:59am
No more news on the modded BIOS then? I was really hoping someone would have cracked it by now!!!
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post #46 of 85
10/12/07 at 12:29pm
I always try to get the waranty at any cost to the manufacturer it takes. within spec.

like when i busted my own hdd, clearly my fault. I unpugged it when it was on.

did I tell the company this? no. did I get a new HDD, hell yes.

also done it numerous times with various other things. ever bough something, killed it. then went to the store got another one, bait, switched then returned.


I learned this from a retailer that I worked for. He had me do it on a regular basis for ordering stock.

selective morality.

time to go to church.

not.


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post #47 of 85
10/12/07 at 1:28pm
diefool, I appreciate your...errr...honesty about your...dishonsty?...

Of course the more people that use that method, the higher the cost passed onto consumers in the end. My personal stance is if I break it I'll take the blame for it. It's not always the easiest path to take, but in the end it's the right way to do things.

It irritates me a bit that there are people that will break their own things and then mislead (trying to be PC here) the place they purchased the product form in order to replace something that they screwed up.

Of course I know there are probably a lot of people that do it, unfortunately. In the end the consumers pay in the form of higher prices, though.
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post #48 of 85
10/13/07 at 4:30pm
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Originally Posted by SolApathy View Post
diefool, I appreciate your...errr...honesty about your...dishonsty?...

Of course the more people that use that method, the higher the cost passed onto consumers in the end. My personal stance is if I break it I'll take the blame for it. It's not always the easiest path to take, but in the end it's the right way to do things.

It irritates me a bit that there are people that will break their own things and then mislead (trying to be PC here) the place they purchased the product form in order to replace something that they screwed up.

Of course I know there are probably a lot of people that do it, unfortunately. In the end the consumers pay in the form of higher prices, though.


Sol, Very Well Said.

I agree, to a point

it's good to hear atleast some do the right thing..
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post #49 of 85
10/15/07 at 5:47am
I would agree with what SolApathy says if we lived in an ideal world where manufacturers or retailers were just as moral. Unfortunately we don't so I say that while retailers and manufacturers try to get away with what they can, regarding replacing genuinly faulty items for the consumer, so we should try to get away with what we can regarding getting items replaced which we broke accidentally. It's a bit of a balancing act tbh which requires give and take from both sides.
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post #50 of 85
10/15/07 at 9:28am
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Originally Posted by joeboblock View Post
I would agree with what SolApathy says if we lived in an ideal world where manufacturers or retailers were just as moral. Unfortunately we don't so I say that while retailers and manufacturers try to get away with what they can, regarding replacing genuinly faulty items for the consumer, so we should try to get away with what we can regarding getting items replaced which we broke accidentally. It's a bit of a balancing act tbh which requires give and take from both sides.
No offense but nothing requires usto be dishonest to "compensate" for the evil corporate empire. Taking that stance only makes the problem worse.... They lie to us, so we lie to them, so they lie more, we lie more.....pricing continue to inflate....why? Because no one bothers to end the cycle. Someone always has to take the first step. If a company continues to be dishonest, well they will get caught (ex:Best Buy & the Intraweb scandal)
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post #51 of 85
10/15/07 at 9:43am
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Originally Posted by joeboblock View Post
I would agree with what SolApathy says if we lived in an ideal world where manufacturers or retailers were just as moral. Unfortunately we don't so I say that while retailers and manufacturers try to get away with what they can, regarding replacing genuinly faulty items for the consumer, so we should try to get away with what we can regarding getting items replaced which we broke accidentally. It's a bit of a balancing act tbh which requires give and take from both sides.

I agree, try anything good and a retailer will just take advantage of you.

Besides, its hard to break items if they aren't poorly designed to begin with. I mean if a manufacturer doesn't make the item structurally capable, and it fails, of course the consumer is going to try to return it.

And then, considering the fact that 'parts' are always ****ing over priced pretty much uniformly across any market with proprietary parts (i.e. laptop parts, car parts etc), so if you break something and need a new part, there's not much incentive if you have to let yourself be raped by the costs.

Seriously, shelling out $500-$700 for an obsolete replacement motherboard, its painful... They never cost that much to begin with, why should they cost that much more now?

Part of it stems from the fact that manufacturers don't want us to get the full use of a product, but rather replace it early. They make parts artificially expensive, and people are forced to just buy a new computer. Win for the company.

Thats why I claim warranty as much as I can. Its my way of balancing out the system.
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post #52 of 85
10/15/07 at 4:32pm
Isn't the motherboard from te M6300 almost the same as my M1710's motherboard....?

So won't it be possible to pinmod my CPU?

I want to have a faster dell, but I don't want to buy a new cpu...
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post #53 of 85
10/15/07 at 4:35pm
that would be no. There are considerable differences in the motherboards. It's an entirely new chipset.
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post #54 of 85
10/15/07 at 4:36pm
But hacking the original bios could work...?
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post #55 of 85
10/15/07 at 5:04pm
No one knows the PLL used so FSB mods are out of the question. pin-mods will not do you any good since the system is a 667 MHz system. The CPU itself is locked internally, it's not like the old AMD Thundedrbirds that you could use a graphite pn on to unlock them.


Currently your only viable option is to purchase a new CPU, up to the T7600G, which would bump you considerably from your current speed.Of course the price pemium is pretty large for such an upgrade.
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post #56 of 85
10/16/07 at 4:45pm
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Currently your only viable option is to purchase a new CPU, up to the T7600G, which would bump you considerably from your current speed.Of course the price pemium is pretty large for such an upgrade.

I paid $100 more for the upgrade. I didn't view it as too steep to be able to bump my system up to 2.83 without adverse affects.
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post #57 of 85
10/16/07 at 4:51pm
lol for him it would be more than $100...
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post #58 of 85
10/17/07 at 7:32am
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I paid $100 more for the upgrade. I didn't view it as too steep to be able to bump my system up to 2.83 without adverse affects.
oooh, where did you get it from? Are they easy enough to fit?
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post #59 of 85
10/17/07 at 9:16am
lol you are not going to find a T7600G for $100, or $200, or $300...or $400 for that matter. You would be unbelievably lucky to find one for $500.


The only way you are going to get any discount is by selling the old proc once you get the new one.
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post #60 of 85
10/17/07 at 2:21pm
I just joined the T7600G club, just bought one off GeForceTony for a real reasonable price. So I hear the sweet spot is to run that chip at 2.8 ? No issue with stability or anything at that speed?
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