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post #41 of 88
9/4/07 at 8:15pm
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Originally Posted by Djembe View Post
@ Doc.Caliban: I read through the whole article you linked. Here are some of my thoughts: The article effectively communicates that Vista's copyright protection software severely limits its functionality when used with many current devices. However, I disagree that it's essentially bad software from Microsoft's standpoint. The end result of all the protection software means that for the operating system to run well, it needs to run on hardware that has a faster central processor, more powerful graphics processor, more memory, more hard drive space, and new peripheral devices with new or upgraded connection methods. What does this mean for the computer industry? A boom in production and development so that hardware can be made that will work with the operating system. What does it mean for the recording and software industries? Executives will be able to dictate how millions of people access information, to the possible degree that every purchase is in essence a rental, since the execs have the power to continue charging customers to prolong usage. So the hardware people get more business from manufacturers who need to be compatible with Vista, and the software people get more business from being able to control access to their products. Microsoft, which is responsible for both these business booms, will get praised by these companies for stimulating the upswing in sales because they developed the necessity that precipitated the boom.
Don't forget the M$ wants to rent OS's and applications to you the end user. That way you never buy the OS or Office you just keep paying to "Use" it. Great way for them to screw you out of money monthly and or yearly.
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post #42 of 88
9/4/07 at 10:17pm
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Well Best Buy replaced my old old Laptop for free, so I guess no OSX for me
I've been using Vista for a bit now, and it's not so bad. Only thing is this @#$%ing included software that has to stay or else my disc drive (or other hardware) won't work.

I'm a stickler for having my system be JUST what I want, not what other people think i'll want. So having to leave Yahoo Jukebox, and some Napster trial software on my HDD is driving me nuts. Now I remember why I liked Linux so much; being able to streamline my system as much as I like is my cup of tea.

Too bad I'm going to college, and I'll need MS Office and Windows for classes, and eventually internships and work. Besides, most tech people I've encountered have the same opinion about Linux and free software: "Nothing good is free, it all sucks, give in to Windows or you're on your own." So I'm stuck with this junk on my drive and it's killing me.

For crying out loud, I have less than a gig of software I INSTALLED, yet I have 30 @#$%ing Gigs used on my hard drive already. Sure i have a 160 gb hd, and people keep telling me "stop whining you have so much space already!", but it's MY computer and I want every iota of space that's free to be used for what I want, not some trial software that's attached to some critical drivers.
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post #43 of 88
9/4/07 at 10:47pm
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Originally Posted by slickhare View Post
Well Best Buy replaced my old old Laptop for free, so I guess no OSX for me
I've been using Vista for a bit now, and it's not so bad. Only thing is this @#$%ing included software that has to stay or else my disc drive (or other hardware) won't work.

I'm a stickler for having my system be JUST what I want, not what other people think i'll want. So having to leave Yahoo Jukebox, and some Napster trial software on my HDD is driving me nuts. Now I remember why I liked Linux so much; being able to streamline my system as much as I like is my cup of tea.

Too bad I'm going to college, and I'll need MS Office and Windows for classes, and eventually internships and work. Besides, most tech people I've encountered have the same opinion about Linux and free software: "Nothing good is free, it all sucks, give in to Windows or you're on your own." So I'm stuck with this junk on my drive and it's killing me.

For crying out loud, I have less than a gig of software I INSTALLED, yet I have 30 @#$%ing Gigs used on my hard drive already. Sure i have a 160 gb hd, and people keep telling me "stop whining you have so much space already!", but it's MY computer and I want every iota of space that's free to be used for what I want, not some trial software that's attached to some critical drivers.

This should do it, It works with all versions of Windows XP and Vista


Give this a look: http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/
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post #44 of 88
9/4/07 at 11:12pm
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Originally Posted by denb45 View Post
This should do it, It works with all versions of Windows XP and Vista Give this a look: http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/
Does it make sure not to delete shared files and drivers that are hiding in the program folders for unknown reasons? If I have to restore my computer, reinstall and reconfigure all of my programs one more time, I'll be handwriting my essays for college...
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post #45 of 88
9/4/07 at 11:36pm
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Originally Posted by slickhare View Post
Does it make sure not to delete shared files and drivers that are hiding in the program folders for unknown reasons? If I have to restore my computer, reinstall and reconfigure all of my programs one more time, I'll be handwriting my essays for college...
I'd take a System Restore Point before using this program, if something go's wrong System Restore is your friend, but you don't even have to use this, if you don't want to, just go to programs in the control panel and uninstall all the unwanted "crapwear" that you don't want, or will never use, I have never heard of any of the Crapwear that is required to run your PC, that statement simply isn't ture uninstalling unwanted programs shouldn't have little to NO effect on how well windows will run........GOOD LUCK!
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post #46 of 88
9/5/07 at 1:55am
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Originally Posted by denb45 View Post
I'd take a System Restore Point before using this program, if something go's wrong System Restore is your friend, but you don't even have to use this, if you don't want to, just go to programs in the control panel and uninstall all the unwanted "crapwear" that you don't want, or will never use, I have never heard of any of the Crapwear that is required to run your PC, that statement simply isn't ture uninstalling unwanted programs shouldn't have little to NO effect on how well windows will run........GOOD LUCK!
I uninstalled several programs through the control panel, and then my cd drive stopped working. I couldn't get windows to find the driver and my searches turned up nothing. I restored my system back to when I removed the Napster junkware from my computer. Now the drive works. I can't figure out for the life of me why windows didn't warn me that I was deleting a shared file... but now I have to leave this crap on here in order to make the computer work...
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post #47 of 88
9/6/07 at 1:54am
Napster is notorious for burying itself into things you need, in order to FORCE you to keep it. do a google for programs specifically for Napster removal. hate that crap. dont much care for yahoo's crapware either.

Maybe a reformat and use your system disc to install all the components back that you want, and leave the rest of the garbageware off of it? when i got my puter, it came with XP. did a clean install of vista right over XP, and it used the drivers i needed and found the rest itself. worst case, i guess you could do a reformat, re install vista, and then use drivers for everything you need, like your optical drive from the manufacturers website.

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post #48 of 88
9/9/07 at 1:03am
its not bad at all
people have crappy computer try and run Vista on it and it runs like shit!
So they say that it sucks And because they don't know how to use it
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post #49 of 88
9/9/07 at 1:10am
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Originally Posted by Trivium nate View Post
its not bad at all
people have crappy computer try and run Vista on it and it runs like shit!
So they say that it sucks And because they don't know how to use it

Those of us who have erased it from our drives sure as hell do!
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post #50 of 88
11/15/07 at 1:58am
i have just became a user of vista and have to say that i am disappointed. Not only is it impossible for me to install half of my old app but i feel it simply doesnt live up to the expectations that windows made.
i basically wish i had stayed with xp.
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post #51 of 88
11/15/07 at 2:37am
switch back... its not too hard....


if you are gonna be overly critical of vista... at least wait til sp1, im sure it'll get better. stick with xp until then
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post #52 of 88
11/19/07 at 8:34pm
Vista came preinstalled on my Toshiba laptop. It seems decent so far as far as stability. What I truly dislike is all the incompatibility. I can't WAV files made in the 90s without resaving them in WavePad and my old iPod Mini 4 GB won't even be detected.
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post #53 of 88
11/20/07 at 8:16am
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Originally Posted by slickhare View Post
Too bad I'm going to college, and I'll need MS Office and Windows for classes, and eventually internships and work. Besides, most tech people I've encountered have the same opinion about Linux and free software: "Nothing good is free, it all sucks, give in to Windows or you're on your own." So I'm stuck with this junk on my drive and it's killing me.

You don't need Office or Windows for college. I took one of those how to use Word/Excel/Powerpoint courses (easy credits ftw) and used Open Office for it. Most of my friends either used Linux or had a Mac, no one had any problems.
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post #54 of 88
3/15/08 at 9:44am
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Originally Posted by operaman View Post
Vista will catch up in functionality and compatibility. The bigger point is, MS has the entire market. That is an impossibility to change unless large companies see that they are unable to deliver reliability and stability in their software. A majority of these features you hear people complaining about deal with Microsoft addressing the crap code of a lot of driver and software application writers. By limiting the ability to alter the core kernel it keeps everything safe. As it should be. If you want to tinker with your OS use Linux or go home. :-) Reading these articles about DRM, blah,blah, is irrelevant. The only relevance to me and 99.9% of people are what is used for business, and where will the market head. The answer is Microsoft. What does damn near every last human on planet earth use? Microsoft office, and Microsoft's OS. So, I would advise adapting and getting used to Vista now. These same arguments were made back when XP was released. Sorry, but I have to laugh my ass off at people who suggest otherwise. My only concern is compatibility at this point with certain software applications and that will be resolved soon I am quite sure. MS, given the number of hardware and software configurations that they must deal with, has done a remarkable job with Vista. Do not let others spread FUD and tell you otherwise.
I agree with your post. At first I did not like Vista. Now I am use to it. I now like Vista better than XP.
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post #55 of 88
3/20/08 at 1:38am
Hands-On with Windows Vista Service Pack 1

http://blog.laptopmag.com/hands-on-w...service-pack-1
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post #56 of 88
3/20/08 at 12:43pm
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Originally Posted by BIGEE1212 View Post
switch back... its not too hard....


if you are gonna be overly critical of vista... at least wait til sp1, im sure it'll get better. stick with xp until then

sp1 is out, and the performance is so much better compared to when i used vista when it came out
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post #57 of 88
4/4/08 at 11:26am
incredible..trying to "copy" some of mac's cool capability..backfired!
vista is slow, cumbersome and makes me laugh..lol
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post #58 of 88
4/5/08 at 6:54am
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Originally Posted by wjrjr6519 View Post
incredible..trying to "copy" some of mac's cool capability..backfired!
personal experience? or just stating "anti vista from reading somewhere"?
OSes "copy" each other cool capabilities all the time, in one form or another. This is called satisfying customer bases.

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Originally Posted by wjrjr6519 View Post
vista is slow, cumbersome and makes me laugh..lol
Ur comp specs? put them up, i m sure that forum users would love to have the opportunities to help each other out. If Vista was slow for u, it would be helpful if u would share ur experiences like what did u try to make it better or until what time did u give up on vista and go to xp,w2k, linux?

cheers ...
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post #59 of 88
4/6/08 at 2:20am
Will Microsoft Deliver Windows 7 Next Year?

http://www.pcworld.com/printable/art...printable.html#
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post #60 of 88
4/6/08 at 3:09am
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Originally Posted by Albatross View Post
Will Microsoft Deliver Windows 7 Next Year? http://www.pcworld.com/printable/art...printable.html#
a good read. I personally cant bring myself to install my copy of vista because finding drivers, troubleshooting if anything goes wrong, plus XP works just fine.
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