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Internal Wifi Card or the PCMCIA Wifi card (that sticks out kinda)

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
which one is better?

i got an internal minipci wifi 54g card and the signal is kind of sporadic... there is suppose to be a built in antenna to my monitor but it doesnt seem to help

just as a test, i went out and bought a pcmcia wifi 54g card and now im getting solid stable signals of 48mbps-54mbps to my wireless acesspoint/router at home network...

is there a diff? or maybe i just got a bad internal wifi card

or is my antenna not working well

lol
post #2 of 12
Generally the internal works better than the PCMCIA cards. You might want to check if its properly seated and the antenna is correctly connected. After that, you might want to do some troubleshooting to see what's up. Might want to check with your Tech Support.
post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 
really? wow...

thats odd

the antenna is an internal one built into the monitor or something

and i dont know how to check if the internal one is seated or not

lol

tech support not open on weekends
post #4 of 12
Thread Starter 
ok my wireless router is upstairs
i did a test just now with my internal minipci 54g lan card
vs
my pcmcia 54g lan card (the one that sticks out kinda)


i was downstairs and could not get a signal with the internal
disabled it
plugged in my pcmcia
pcmcia picked up an excellent signal at 48mbps



i think i just got a cheap internal mini one, it was free from ibuypower

do you think this internal one would be good ? how hard is it to upgrade ur self... it has an internal antenna so it says... only 49 bux

http://www.coolerexpress.com/ie80mipciwil1.html
post #5 of 12
Thread Starter 
ok i had both devices plugged in and enabled lol.
i was looking at how the two differered under be controlpanel/system/drivers/advanced

the linksys had antenna setting : diversity
and the internal minipci had no antenna setting

i know this laptop has an antenna but i have no idea how to check if its properly connected...

or maybe i need updated drivers to take advantage of an antenna?

help :/
post #6 of 12
Check the power settings and make sure it's not set to power saving or something like that. Supposedly that lowers the transfer rate and I guess could cause you to lose the connection maybe? Also, make sure your WiFi settings are set properly. I was having a similar problem at first but it was because I incorrectly set my laptop. I get better reception than all the other wifi users at school that have USB or PCMCIA cards.
post #7 of 12
You said you got the minicard free? Does that mean you installed it yourself or did the retailer do it?

Some computers don't come with the antenna (sp?) equiped unless you order it at the time of the laptop's manufacture. HP did that with some of the cheaper laptops (don't know if they still do that.)
post #8 of 12
Thread Starter 
store installed it

and i checked driver settings

power setting is disabled for both my minipci internal and pcmcia

i read around and noticd that my laptop has a internal wirless lan toggle switch for on/off operation... plus it has 2 LEDS for send recieve data

none of the LEDS light up even if my internal is working
and the toggle switch does nothing...

i think when they installed the minipci they didnt hook it up properly
post #9 of 12
sometimes the built in LEDS do nothing, even though the thing is working. Check the case manufacturers drivers site and see what they say.

I have an asus m6n and the original shipped drivers gave it shaky wifi signal. I upped the bios, and all pertinent intel drivers and suddenly I get great signal, all LEDs and switches work. So go figure, it tends to be sw sometimes.

Not all internal wifi cards and wifi routers play well together either. Brands are supposed to work perfectly, standards are supposed to be the same brand to brand, but that is sometimes far from the real world case.

Good luck!

Eric
post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 
checked my bios and i have the latest version from their website

i can understand of the snd/recive data leds dont work

but the wireless lan/toggle switch is suppose to be somehow hardlined to the card... i dont think they hooked it up right
post #11 of 12
Mm... not necessarily.

The bios has to be hard programmed to interface with a certain brand of card. For me, the older asus bios worked with the intel 2100 wireless card, which is only the b freq. I got the 2200, which does both the b/g and asus supported. Once I had the new bios in, the newest hotkey utility in and hardware drivers, and the new 2200 drivers and proset utility, it all worked. Bear in mind that asus had to program all that func in to thier driver set to have that work. A good way to tell is if the OEM ships thier laptops with the card you have now. If not, then it wont work.

Like techsupport told me, when I was trying to figure this out...
"Why do you even need that to work?" LOL

Pretty sure that guy got in some deep doodoo when I reported his oh so helpful attitude to sales. Hehe. Then I figured it out on my own.

Moral of the story- screw techsupport, you can figure it out. ha!

Eric
post #12 of 12
Likewise to what Eric is saying, with the M6n I tried a Dell card (b/g) and while the signal was decent - it worked really well with a D-Link - 624, but it woud cause my USR 8054 to lock up after a few hours use.
Now I'm using the Intel 2200 Pro (B/G) and the USR doesn't lock up anymore and the signal is still pretty good.
However, the on/off switch did not work with the Dell, but it does now with the Intel card.
The thing with most of the on off switch's ( when you're buying a barebone -either directly or through company that is putting it together for you) is that most of the on off switches are only meant to work with the full centrino platform - PM, and Intel Pro card (calexico I think its called) . Untill recently there was no Intel B/G card, so re-sellers buiding on a barebones machine would just outfit it with any other b/g card in order to stay competitive. However the extra feature ( on/off hotkey) would generally not work, as the barebones maker only really supports the Centrino platform.
That is why originally with the M6N the button only worked with the Intel 2100. When the 2200 came out, asus updated their drivers/bios to support any changes that might have been required for the newer centrino b/g option - but the on/off will still probably never be supported for other manu. mini-pci cards. ( I didn't really expect the dell card to work in that respect with the M6N, but I though it might 'cause dell notebooks also use Fn + F2 to toggle the wireless state on/off - just like the M6N.
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