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the endless beachball of death

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
my gf gave me her black macbook 13" to try to get running because she absolutely got sick of that crap. I can see why. While trying to back things up first, it refused to mount my external usb hard drive. THen i figured "ok, maybe bad chip in that thing" (mind you it works great under windows and linux w/o extra drivers), so i tried to mount my mp3 player (Cowon X5) and it failed as well (also mounts under win and lin perfectly w/o extra drivers), both are formated in FAT32 (hdd is 40gb, mp3 is 30gb). Worst came to worst and i had to back up 20gb worth of stuff on DVDs. I managed to burn her documents, photos, videos, and music (all together took 4 dvds) w/o much crap using the program called Burn. Once it came time to back-up applications (that i don't know if she has install disks for or not) Burn crapped out and kept freezing. I then tried to "create a burn folder" and that crapped out as well. At that point i needed to Force Quit everything...and then ended up restarting the computer a few times b/c Finder kept perma-freezing. Sometimes it even froze while trying to restart. Of course I don't even have to mention the endless "beach ball of death"... that thing just kept on truckin'.

So basically if I am really frustrated w/ this crap after only 3 hours, I can only imagine how she feels every damn day. So where I stand right now is a macbook that is down right useless, data/media is all backed up (not applications), and the OSX disk i threw @ it, it would refuse to boot off it so i couldn't reinstall. Though what might be the problem is that its not the official restore disk, I am gonna try to get my hands on one of those and try that because the way i see it a complete reinstall of osx and start from scratch is hte only way to fix this trainwreck. Alternatively.... I am very tempted to install some sort of linux right now but i don't have any macbook-specific distros burned (elive macbook ?... for obvious reasons) so prolly gonna have to keep that in my pants for now

anyway....just wanted to let 'er rip. I'll post back later if I have problems/questions/comments while reinstalling (once i get the restore disk) or configuring (post-install).....
post #2 of 23
ABF on the Mac OS install disks, there is a utility to do a hardware check, I would reccomend it, and tell it to do the in-depth one. It will check things like Memory etc. Make certain all the hardware is working well before you move on to a software issue.

Seablade
post #3 of 23
Thread Starter 
fairly sure everything on the hardware end works fine...except the battery which occasionally shocks you.... but that shouldn't be causing uncontrollable lag and just DOG SLOW-ness. I had XP run smoother on a 233mhz pentium w/ 64mb ram than this.
post #4 of 23
Yes, but you see it could be corrupted RAM or a bad HDD controller, all you have to lose is time by running the hardware check.
post #5 of 23
Something else I just thought of. Do either of you happen to have a desktop system with SATA? Or an external enclosure with SATA? The hard drive in the MacBook uses a standard SATA interface, so you could hook it up to another system as an extra drive. Do that to back up the drive, and to also run diags on the drive itself.
post #6 of 23
Stu hit it dead on with both his posts, so I will leave it at that.

Seablade
post #7 of 23
Thread Starter 
it was indeed a software issue. i reinstalled osx and everything is running fairly smoothly (so far) . still kinda bugs me that this computer has 512mb ram, really could use a gig since osx is reasonably bloated (not quite Vista or Suse-like...but it ain't no Elive either)
post #8 of 23
My machine used to have 512MB RAM, and it ran ok until I started using Office 2004. Then I might as well not even bother, after getting 1GB it runs smooth as butter, but I still think I should get 2GB if for no reason other than longevity.
post #9 of 23
Yea I put extra ram in my wife's laptop flat out cause 512 just isn't enough to be honest anymore.

Seablade

Just gotta have MORE!
post #10 of 23
1 gig minimum i would say, you can get 2 for cheap though.. thats what i would go with
post #11 of 23
Thread Starter 
i am not spending money on her lappy. prolly not gonna earn me too many brownie points though 512mb sticks i looked up cost around $35...gotta get 2 of em though b/c stock config is 256x2.... at that point just 1 stick of 1gb is that same $70 so at least there you already have 1.25gb... so there you have it.

off ram but still a topic regarding this thread which is essentially my attempt to configure her macbook... she has an actual AOL account (as opposed to AIM) and she claims that 3-rd party IM clients (Adium in this case) won't allow her to log on b/c of the fact that it is the AOL account instead of an AIM. I call BS on that...googled and seem to not find anything relevant. Whats your take? What could be the problem why Audium is not working?

Of course the windows AOL client is rubbish, I hate to see how the mac is.
post #12 of 23
Adium, there are many reasons. Try downloading the latest build from http://adiumx.com. Delete the original .app file from Applications and delete the preferences from your Library/Application Support folder as well. It's equivalent to a "reinstall" on Windows.
Also, I don't think AOL/AIM account matters, as it is the same network. People with AIM get an AOL account too. screenname@aol.com.
Try "reinstalling" Adium first; see if that helps.

As for your software issue, it might've been something she installed? *shrug*, just a guess.
post #13 of 23
adium is great, if they could add video chat it would be the best chat client ever
post #14 of 23
I'm just glad that pidgin finally dropped, meaning that now I have an alternative to Trillian on Windows (which I sort of liked trillian, but get so tired of the Pro only features) especially when you consider that from my understanding, pidgin makes gaim look and act like adium

OS X devs 1 - Win Devs 0
post #15 of 23
Thread Starter 
what are you talking about there stu? i have never had problems with gaim and i've been using it from 1.0 to 2.0.0beta6... works great. also pidgin acts the same as gaim (2.0 anyway) always did... just changed artwork and a few minor tweaks to comply with AOL's bloodthirst. I actually dislike AdiumX compared to Pidgin...maybe its just b/c i am used to Gaim/Pidgin but it feels more logically organized and way less cluttered.

That said... I now wanna report back on my AOL account not logging on to Adium problem. First I thought she might have messed up something in the settings, so I deleted everything she did and tried from scratch, set everything up myself and it kept giving me "wrong password" or "wrong account" errors. Then I downloaded Fire and tried that, same problem. Then to make sure account was legit I tried loggin on to AIM Express and it confirmed the account. So finally I just set up iChat and her account worked on iChat. iChat is no Adium...but at least its a step up from AOL's nightmare of a client.
post #16 of 23
I meant the look of it mostly. I never was a fan of Gaim since it felt like they ripped it kicking and screaming off a linux desktop and dropped it into windows, no intermediary steps. Pidgin now (from what I have seen, dont run windows much anymore) appears to be more Adium looking, and I really prefer that look to how gaim looked. I admit that they aren't that dis-similar, but it is the little things.

This is roughly the same argument that I have against firefox on the mac, as well as Safari 3 on windows. They just dont look like they belong. Nor do they act like they belong
post #17 of 23
How long has she been running this MacBook?

Two to one most of the problems could've been solved by using a maintenance utility as laptop users in particular sleep or shutdown their computers before they can run their maintenance scripts.

Run something like Maintenance (download here) once a month or so to keep the machine running well.
post #18 of 23
PSI FTW!

Seablade

HehHeh
post #19 of 23
Huh wha?
post #20 of 23
he's referring to the appropriate measurement standard to gauge proper iWheel inflation. :P
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