I think I'm falling away from Pc Gaming - Page 2

yeah. I know duke.


Why does it cost 450 dollars more to have 8800U's in SLI over 8800 GTX's in SLI?

They don't even offer the Q6600.

You can get Vista Ultimate for the same price as AW


when I get the time, I'll show how much you can save over AW

=)

The PC platform also favors complex RPG's and sims like NWN and X3: Re-union. My personal favorite, games like these are customizable by the end user to the point that they would never work on the console. This is especially true given that there seems to be a reluctance by console makers to support the keyboard and mouse even as control inputs, never mind beyond that. I think consoles and PC's will always serve two different markets.

Again the problem is that the types of games that lend themselves to PC development cost more to produce and support. However, they also offer the greatest potential in terms of longevity and playability. This isn't a game makers' paradise unless your heart is really into the game.

I only use my PC for RTS now, because that is all it can run. But WHEN I upgrade, and I do have the $. I have about 1300 $ saved up, I will start playing more PC games. But for most of my life I've been pretty balanced between console gaming and PC gaming. I just got M2TW:Kingdoms, and I love it, RTS ftw!

I understand that it's possible, saving money depending on brand of parts, believe me, ive built so many PCs in my life... but ive also owned Two AW desktops and probably a third coming up... the door can swing both ways

I have to agree that on the super high end systems, Alienware comes closer to reasonable....however on the lower spec'd system at least in the past, it was far from reasonable. Of course those aren't the systems you're looking at though. If I had Alienware build my new system, it came out to about $500 more than having another company build it. And about $800 more than building it myself.

Duke, please don't get that 1500 dollar cpu!
PLEASE!

We go way back, but if you do... I'll slap you silly.


Well I think we took this thread as far away from the op as possible. lol

I agree, buying the best is always a terrible mistake when it comes to price/performance ratio.

And you made the decision to buy from the other company ... saving $500 is fine and commendable ... but for some people, the $500 may be worth it because they prefer the Alienware (or Brand X, Y, or Z). I have a feeling, next time you'll be ready to build your own ... so you'll save even more, and have the satisfaction of putting it together yourself.

If someone wants an ALX, let 'em buy an ALX. If someone really wants the QX6850, and they can afford it ... it doesn't mean they are retarded or an imbecile. To some people, $1,000 is either disposable income, or they get pleasure from buying what they perceive is top-of-the-line.

Back to the question of gaming on a PC - you really don't need expensive components to enjoy gaming. The 8600 GT and an entry level C2D CPU will be plenty to have fun on a 19-20" display.

Console gaming can be quite expensive, if you are the type who buys games, especially when they first come out. Both PCs and Consoles can provide lots of fun, but they are different experiences.

Understandable, some people want Alienware, some people don't. However from the ratings they get on sites such as resellerratings...I'm thinking it's case design that pulls people in. The only reason I bought an Alienware the first time around was because they are pretty and hyped to be the best gaming PC's around. I just find that they do cost quite a bit and when you can get it from another place for cheaper...awesome. But of course I'd rather invest the extra $500 somewhere else in my hobbies rather than paying someone extra money for EXACTLY the same component put in by another person, with a larger name.

Of course the person can buy and ALX if they want, it's just never a suggestion that would come out of my mouth. I don't care which company, buying top line components is a waste of money. Despite being hypocritical (probably) I think saving the extra $3000 and contributing it to others would be much better than buying things that will run a whole 2% better than the next component in line. I obviously wouldn't know since I don't have close to enough money to pour into a system at this point...it's just sometimes I think if everyone would give a little bit (or a lot) back to the community, it could let others be happy instead of us always having the best and others not having anything.

Just my .02

Honestly, your Reseller Ratings comment doesn't fly here. RR is great for smaller companies, but with very few exceptions gives a distorted picture of larger ones, especially computer vendors. If, for instance, Dell was anywhere near as bad as their RR profile said they were, then they'd be out of business by now.

Also, the advantages in buying top-of-the-line components can be as much as 10-25% better performance over their next lower products, so for those who have the money, it can be seen as "worth it" to have a system that will smoke yours, even if they had to spend 2-3 times the money on it.

And your comment about giving back to the community sounds nice, but it seems like you're using it as a cheap trick to prove your point. If, for instance, you have a disposable income of $2000 and you build a computer for $1800, are you giving more back to the community than the guy who has a disposable income of $10,000, gives $5000 to the local food shelter and builds a $5000 computer with the rest? You can very well argue that he could have built his system for less, but you could have also built your system for less, so the argument goes nowhere.

I would say however the person with the $10,000 disposable income will spend all $10,000 on themself, maybe not all in one place, but somewhere. So if you could say $1200 on your CPU to help someone else out by only taking a minor (most likely barely noticeable) hit, then I would say the person should take the hit. Obviously the person should maintain getting himself something he likes, but when it comes down to pouring money where it's essentially a waste....is plainly selfish. So why I would still consider in your example the $1800 builder alright, is because he probably loves gaming and doesn't have a whole lot of money to save but still remain with a totally kickass gaming system. Rather than the man with $5000 for a system, where he could have essentially equal performance for a small fraction of the price.

Again, this is just my opinion, I don't really care if you like what I have to say..it's just my take on it. I think even if I were rich I wouldn't buy the best out there, since it's just a waste.

OMFG....now we're saying that people who buy alienware systems aren't as philanthropic as home builders. Gimme a break guys.

noobs.

I'm not saying that.....regardless of who you buy from, spending $5000 on a PC IN MY OPINION is crazy. that's what I'm saying.

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A poor mountaineer, barely kept his family fed,
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kinfolk said "Jed move away from there",
said "Californy is the place you ought to be",
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You're all invited back a gain to this locality
To have a heapin' helpin' of their hospitality

Hillybilly that is. Set a spell, Take your shoes off.

Y'all come back now, y'hear?

And, you are entitled to YOUR opinion. Just remember, that for some people, spending $5,000 has less impact on our financial status than spending $1,500 for someone else. And the whole "give it to charity" argument doesn't hold much water. In general, people to whom $5,000 is disposable income probably give more than you can imagine to charitable causes

And, back on topic ... imho, PC gaming is alive and well ... but it does help to have a system that can play everything maxed out. If that's an issue, console gaming may be a better choice.

It may just be around here, but I would highly doubt the people earning the most give a penny to anyone. The way I see it, I think those less fortunate have much more sympathy for others in bad positions rather than those who have enough money to do whatever they want. But I'm of the persuasion that a majority of people are evil, going after their own desires.

I love my PC on the actual topic. I wouldn't trade it for any console, plainly because I like exact movements rather than inaccurate joystick motions of consoles.

You have a lot to learn, and perhaps should not be so judgmental about things you don't know about

It's just my sphere of influence. You don't know the people I do here. A majority of people in this town belong to Donald Trump's golf course spending over $300,000 a year only in memberships. They are all thoroughly stuck up and drive like ignorant pigs. Warm welcomes are not in the cards here and you are expected to never talk to the nextdoor neighbors...it's a rare find to see a charitable and nice person around here, but if you'd like to see for yourself...you are welcome to visit tri-state New York