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Poll Results: Do you use Linux, and what is your relationship to NBF?

 
  • 2% (1)
    Admin that uses Linux
  • 6% (3)
    Moderator that uses Linux
  • 4% (2)
    Community Rep that uses Linux
  • 73% (33)
    Member that uses Linux
  • 13% (6)
    Don't use linux(So why are you here;)
45 Total Votes  
post #41 of 57
I run all Linux distros off of a bootable external USB hard drive. Currently i have Fedora, Ubuntu, PCLOS2007 and OpenSuSE 10.2 installed. By far my favorite is OpenSuSE. It seems to understand my hardware setup much better than the others. Required no tweaking whatsoever.

YMMV
post #42 of 57
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Originally Posted by linuxguy View Post
I run all Linux distros off of a bootable external USB hard drive. Currently i have Fedora, Ubuntu, PCLOS2007 and OpenSuSE 10.2 installed. By far my favorite is OpenSuSE. It seems to understand my hardware setup much better than the others. Required no tweaking whatsoever.

YMMV

I am utilizing SuSE's Enterprise Linux Desktop 4.0 right now, along with Red Hat's Enterprise Linux, and I have to agree that of all the distros I've tried these two are the most compatible with my hardware. They worked perfectly out of the box.
post #43 of 57
eww. to me Suse and Fedora are probably the worst distros out there....or near the bottom of the list somewhere. they are very bloated, slow, and there is always a crucial component thats broken (like the package manager in suse 10.1 that was massively screwed up). That said I am currently running Arch. Which works great for me, fast, flexible, and current.
post #44 of 57
Thread Starter 
Heh just a personal request to avoid turning this into a this distro vs that distro thread

We can always start a new flamepit... err thread, for that type of topic

Seablade
post #45 of 57
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Originally Posted by seablade View Post
Heh just a personal request to avoid turning this into a this distro vs that distro thread

We can always start a new flamepit... err thread, for that type of topic

Seablade

Agreed. My personal opinion of everything is that no matter which version of Linux a person is using, (or for that matter even those that are not using Linux) are doing something productive towards the future of our society. Look how far personal computing has come in the last 25 years. It was in 1981 that I got my first computer- the Commodore Vic-20, which had a cassette tape drive for storing my very simplistic computer games that I created. You had to connect it to the back of the antenna leads on the console-style television set. Ah, the good ole days...
post #46 of 57
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Originally Posted by mb67 View Post
I am utilizing SuSE's Enterprise Linux Desktop 4.0 right now, along with Red Hat's Enterprise Linux, and I have to agree that of all the distros I've tried these two are the most compatible with my hardware. They worked perfectly out of the box.

Does that include wireless, mb? Aside from my usual issues with resolution (with every distro I've tried ), everything has worked well until I tried to connect wirelessly. Only tried with one machine - a new eMachines desktop. Used Sabayon (installed), Ubuntu and then PCLinuxOS 2007 (Live CDs), Didn't have time to research and fix the problem, so formatted and installed a fresh copy of . . . ugh . . . Windows XP. Well, at least it isn't Vista and the machine does get online now.

If SuSE allows a connection to the Internet without a lot of grief, maybe I'll delete XP and try it out.
post #47 of 57
In my limited experience, I think LiveCDs are pretty worthless for actually seeing how an OS can work on your computer, since anything that requires a restart or change in format can't be done.
post #48 of 57
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Originally Posted by bmwrob View Post
Does that include wireless, mb? Aside from my usual issues with resolution (with every distro I've tried ), everything has worked well until I tried to connect wirelessly. Only tried with one machine - a new eMachines desktop. Used Sabayon (installed), Ubuntu and then PCLinuxOS 2007 (Live CDs), Didn't have time to research and fix the problem, so formatted and installed a fresh copy of . . . ugh . . . Windows XP. Well, at least it isn't Vista and the machine does get online now.

If SuSE allows a connection to the Internet without a lot of grief, maybe I'll delete XP and try it out.

When I had my work laptop, I installed SuSE's Enterprise Edition and it picked up the wireless perfectly. My home laptop doesn't have Linux on it right now, but someday I would like to try that out...
post #49 of 57
Thanks, mb. Guess I'm gonna have to try SuSE. Geez, wonder how long it'll take me to get the resolution straight with this disto. LOL
post #50 of 57
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Originally Posted by bmwrob View Post
Thanks, mb. Guess I'm gonna have to try SuSE. Geez, wonder how long it'll take me to get the resolution straight with this disto. LOL
Part of the deal with SuSE is that it has a partnership with Microsoft, and a lot of people have bad feelings towards SuSE for that reason alone-saying that it's not a true Linux O/S anymore. For my dealings, it works great in a business environment as well as in a personal setting. The great part for me is that while the Enterprise Editions cost companies money, mine didn't.
post #51 of 57
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Originally Posted by mb67 View Post
Part of the deal with SuSE is that it has a partnership with Microsoft, and a lot of people have bad feelings towards SuSE for that reason alone-saying that it's not a true Linux O/S anymore. For my dealings, it works great in a business environment as well as in a personal setting. The great part for me is that while the Enterprise Editions cost companies money, mine didn't.

Oh, maybe I'll pass on this. I don't need anything business related, and thought all Linux distros were free. Paying for things is ok when necessary, I suppose, but not when they can be had freely!
post #52 of 57
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Originally Posted by bmwrob View Post
Oh, maybe I'll pass on this. I don't need anything business related, and thought all Linux distros were free. Paying for things is ok when necessary, I suppose, but not when they can be had freely!



There is a free version of SuSE B-Rob.

Linky
post #53 of 57
/changes mind again - free SuSE seems like a great idea, especially if wireless works
post #54 of 57
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Originally Posted by bmwrob View Post
/changes mind again - free SuSE seems like a great idea, especially if wireless works

Here's another link for you:

Wireless Linky
post #55 of 57
well here is an idea. if it works on one distro...it works on them ALL. Its a matter of what packages come standard w/ what distro and where you have to install extras. That said I dont know what your wifi card is but if worst comes to worst use ndiswrapper, its a quick and reasonably painless process. Option #2 is get an Atheros card since madwifi is now more or less included in every common distro, thus you get wifi support out of the box (i have atheros and can't complain about wifi support at all).

That said...aside novell being a bunch of sneaky monkeys and signing papers w/ the devil (MSFT), SuSE fails for the one and only reason that it is painfully slow. Since 10.x series came out boot times have easily been 2x as long as on even Ubuntu which doesn't have the fastest boot times to begin with. Once (and if) it finally does boot well...the desktop really isn't much faster. To top it off openSuse is well...open. In other words there are 0 proprietary, closed source, or other 3rd party apps. To the user that means nearly 0 media support out of the box, lack of some hardware support, and of course lack of other useful non-open apps. Granted that Ubuntu is almost the same way about not including closed stuff... at least there is Automatix or Mint to get around the problem. Of course Suse has howtos posted in wiki / forum on how to get stuff like FGLRX or nvidia, mp3 support, and so forth... but then that depends on the package manager working, and in 10.1 it was broken beyond broke. How the distro made it to final release version with a bug that huge is beyond my understanding. They have fixed it since, but lets face it Yast is really quite slow complicated in comparison to APT or Pacman.

that said... rob, if you want to try and kill yourself try to install gentoo (using the minimal install cd) by hand.. if you succeed you'll have a pretty awesome setup, and even if you fail at least you would have learned something about how linux works and be able to apply that to your ventures with other distros.
post #56 of 57
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Djembe View Post
In my limited experience, I think LiveCDs are pretty worthless for actually seeing how an OS can work on your computer, since anything that requires a restart or change in format can't be done.

Very little in linux REQUIRES a restart, though often times it is the easiest way a person not familiar with Linux can get their computer to go through the necessary steps.

For instance, if a module is not compiled on a live cd, and you compile it, you can modprobe it right then and there. If you make a change to your xorg.conf, you don't need to restart your computer, just X11. The list goes on.

As ABF mentioned, if it works in one distro, it will work in any, it is just a matter of how MUCH work(As BMWRob found out), and what type of work, it takes to get it working.

And on the distro choices, I will say this and then drop it. The reason of us dislike Suse as a distro dates from well before said deals, said deals just did not help their position much obviously I won't go into the reasons behind it, suffice to say a quick search should turn up several threads in which these are discussed and a new flamepit can always be started.

In as far as 'for pay'...

BMWRob in those cases quite often, if not always, you are not paying for the distro itself. That is completely free(Though Suse in the past did not follow up on this very well, recently with OpenSuse they are doing better). What you are paying for in general is support, meaning you can call them up if you have a problem and they will attempt to walk you through its fix. I have had mixed results with Suse's support when I was(is?) a noob. One example I can think of is a modem I had, that worked in one verison, but in the next did not work. After a couple hours on the phone with them, they determined it could not work with the new version.

Yea they were wrong.(And I got it working)

Other times i have gotten good information from them however. It really can vary like most places. It is of the most benefit to business/enterprise users though, and that is who they aim for. That is also why Lenovo went with Suse instead of something like Ubuntu for their laptops. They are aiming squarely at the enterprise, where distros like Suse, RHEL, etc. reign supreme. They want to market that image in what they do as well. Dell on the other hand recognized that the majority of the Linux requests came from individuals, not from the enterprise, and they recognized that on the individual desktop, Ubuntu currently reigns. Thus their choice was to go with Ubuntu to market to those that requested it.

Hope that explains some.

Seablade
post #57 of 57
Currently using Ubuntu Feisty as a dual boot on my laptop and as the sole OS on my desktop.
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