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I finally have a reason to use Linux... but I may need help.

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Who am I kidding? "May" need help. I'll definately need help.

The short story: Vista pissed me off, but I'd still like to have a Vista environment available so I can get used to it and learn all it's quirks so when my customers have issues with it, I'll know what to do. My website is all php, and I hate using notepad for websites. Lastly, I want to run a 64-bit of Vista also, just to find out what will work, what can be patched to work, etc.

Currently, I have lots of extra partition space and XP installed. I'd like to not reinstall XP since I just did a week ago, but if necessary I will do it again.

My goal:
Get a Linux-based boot loader (I remember the one we used in my operating systems class in college was much neater than the Windows loader; also if I remember right, it was easy to add in other operating systems regardless of what order they were installed in.

Get a Linux build that I can use for very few tasks, one of them being photo editing, web graphic creation, web site management (would love to have an offline test environment and the ability to just send files live when I'm happy with the test; I've very novice to web pages as well).

Keep XP 32-bit as a failsafe for when something I want to do doesn't work.

Get Vista 32 up and running as my primary OS.

Get Vista 64 up and running for fiddling around with, probably playing Crysis and stuff like that; whatever is 64-bit optimized.

Any thoughts? I have looked at a few Linux builds and I think Kubuntu will probably be best. However, I don't remember enough about the boot loader to do it again, don't remember what it was called, don't know how many there are and thus don't really want to just go Google and get the first thing that pops up...

I'm trying to approach this in an educated and well-planned manner, hoping to keep the "OH CRAP! Did I ruin it?" factor to a minimum.
post #2 of 7
Help? There is no helping here!

Heh ok anyways, most linux installs will take care of setting up the boot loader for you these days. I will say you have a somewhat diverse set of needs there, not that it can't be done, but that it may not be an ideal run environment as it might stretch itself a bit, much like you would running a web server on any other OS you do other stuff on

In as far as what distro to try, you can try a fair few, I would say Ubuntu might be a good one to look at, I would recommend eLive, but I am not sure how easy it is to set up LAMP on it, whereas Ubuntu I know has packages specifically for that purpose. Speaking of which LAMP will require some manual tweaking to get working(Webserver with PHP and MYSQL), but that should be expected to be honest.

Running other OSes is not a problem, just keep in mind that if you install windows on a different parition after you install linux it will wipe your MBR forcing you to possibly have to reset it by hand(See my recent 'vent' thread). So installing Windows first, and letting the linux install repartition as necessary is usually easier.

Um my mind is kinda all over the place at the moment and half dead so not sure how coherent that is, but at any rate help is certainly available, just ask. We only bite after you feed us

Seablade
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if you want to be able to get to 'work' quickly and worry about learning linux later as you go along, then I think you're on the right track with Kubuntu. I've been pretty impressed with it's user-friendliness overall so far.

seablade is right on the money, install linux last and let it handle the boot loader for you.

It WOULD help to know what kind of hardware setup you have (1 HDD partitioned only, multiple HDDs? etc)

and I'm not like seablade... I only bite until you feed me
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and I'm not like seablade... I only bite until you feed me
Get the taste for blood first Then keep going back for more... Seablade
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I have a single 500gb drive. I think I made my WinXP partition something like 130gb so I'd have plenty of room to play with later.

So, all I 'should' have to do at this point is install Vista 32 and Vista 64 on their own partitions and leave some hard drive space empty, then burn a Kubuntu CD and boot off of that and it'll be nice to me?

I do have a spare 120gb hard drive that I'm not using atm, if that would be better.
post #6 of 7
In general yes, though I haven't used Linux with Vista to know how well they play together on install. I would imagine it will go smoothly for you though so long as your hardware is supported easily.

Seablade
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if you have an extra hard drive, I'll tell you my personal favorite way to dual boot. I prefer to install and configure windows on drive A. Then I disconnect drive A and connect drive B and install linux on it, installing the bootloader to the mbr. Then I reconnect drive A and configure the boot loader manually to be able to boot windows. Once that's done I set drive B as the first boot device in the bios. In this way I'm insulated from some of the headaches of learning/messing up linux. Because if I screw something up REALLY good (or I hose the bootloader) I can just change the boot sequence in the bios and the windows bootloader on drive A will boot me into windows so I can google up the solution. Of course you could just make a boot disk/usb stick, but as far as I'm aware that wont let you boot into windows if you need to.
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