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Official: Distro trashing flamepit

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With much talk recently about this and that distro, here is a consolidated place to trash any distro. In other words, if you are going to talk trash about any distro do it here and keep it out of other threads.

Format to Follow:
Distro Name and Version
Name your problem.
Talk all the trash it takes to get it out of your system.

Example:

openSuse 10.1
Broken package manager.
It went through something like 10 alpha + beta + rc versions and at the end of it all they still managed to release the final official version with a bug as crucial as a broken package manager. This is just the most fantastic place to be, especially when your wireless card isn't supported out of the box and you need to get drivers for it from the repos. So you can't run an update to the newer (fixed) version of the package manager because the old one won't do it, and you can't install your wireless drivers to compute in comfort. The official suse forum/help had little to no mention of the problem and even less solution threads/posts. Way to go Suse. Release a broken product and don't even tell us how to fix it!


Ubuntu (all versions and clones including kubuntu, mint, and to a lesser degree xubuntu)
Too slow!
They had a great idea. An easy to use distro which works on a lot of stuff out of the box. Good job! But then they picked i386 as their arch of choice. WHY!? Nobody these days (or even in 2005 when the distro started) really uses Pentium (or lower) computers! Even Pentium 2 / MMX are capable of i586 so why not go with it, still runs on a crapload of hardware, but is way more optimized to actually use most of my cpu's features to run faster with better floating point calculations and mmx and sse extensions and all that. As of the last few releases they've been using the "generic" kernel as opposed to i386...but the apps are still all i386 and the kernel is still really slow and highly unoptimized. Ubuntu devs: just because MS decided that slower computer response is the new norm with Vista... the rest of us still want speed (relatively speaking) so if you want to get my attention with your product at least make it perform to spec with other modern OSes.
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Is there really that much of a speed up between i386 and i686? I know the Ubuntu kernel is bloated as hell, but it has to be in order to support everything. It's an unfortunate side effect of a monolithic kernel.

Is there an easy way to recompile everything in Ubuntu? Like a apt-get source * and dpkg-buildpackage? I know apt-get can take a --compile option and automatically compile that which comes from the source command. I know it would take days, too, because of graphical programs that take forever to compile.

Trustix
Lack of community/company support.
Trustix used to be my favorite distro because it is so locked down out of the box. Its software management system, swup, uses https to get packages and package lists. It's incredibly secure and wonderful. It can be modified to use dpkg or rpm (Trustix uses the latter). However, the distro lost its pulling power because the company that financed it layed off all the paid people who supported it. Obviously, this affect the commercial version of the distro, too. With more and more people moving to Ubuntu or SLED or CentOS, Trustix is quickly becoming obsolete.
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Arguably, openSUSE 10.2 package mgmt is still broken. Life was sooo much better before Zen. Rumor is that things are FINALLY fixed in 10.3 with Zen being gone by default. Too early to know for sure.

I have 10.3 installed, so far, it's just a MINOR update to 10.2. Which is fine, especially if pkg mgmt is fixed!
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