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Inspiron E1505 Dead Battery problem

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I bought the Dell Inspiron E1505 about two years ago. Like so many of the others who bought this laptop, my Type KD476, 85Wh battery died just after the one year mark. The problem started when the battery light began flashing. The battery has a usage button on it which indicated that the battery was fully charged, however, every time I put the battery in the laptop, the light started to flash again. I found dozens of blogs and tech sites like this one where Dell users have voiced the same issues with this computer and its battery. (Just enter, "Problem with Dell Inspiron E1505 Battery" into your browser to see what I mean) All Dell will offer as a solution is to tell me to buy a new battery. It costs about $169. to buy a new one from Dell. I've written messages to Dell Customer Service and even sent one to Michael Dell himself about this problem and got nowhere. My last messages to dell Support didn't even get a reply. The letter to Michael Dell wasn't even passed on to someone who might have replied to me. I was totally ignored.

The overall performance of this laptop was marginal at best, despite what anyone else thinks of it. My older Inspiron 1100 is a much better laptop and has never had any issues with it's battery. I was enticed to buy the more expensive battery when I got the E1505 because the Dell wen site said it would last longer. Obviously, that is not true. Dell Customer Service will not take ownership of the problem that I am many others have had with this laptop. I've bought five computers from Dell in the past seven years or so. The E1505 was the latest purchase. My older Dell computers all work much better than the E1505. Personally, the E1505 is a useless piece of junk to me, if I cannot use it as a portable computer. Instead, it remains landlocked to a wall outlet if I want to use it. I'm certainly not going to pay Dell $169. every year for a new battery. I either expected my money back, a free battery or a comparable replacement for the E1505, any of which I know I will never receive from Dell. They don't really listen to their customers. I used to be a big Dell supporter, but not any longer. Dell sucks as far as i am concerned! My next system will come from HP. I won't buy anymore Dell products and I'd suggest anyone else to avoid buying a Dell computer unless you also want a headache, or you enjoy being ignored by Dell when you have a problem with their products.
post #2 of 12
The 9 cell in my inspiron 9300 did the same thing about ten days out of warranty. If you didn't purchase the extended battery warranty then you are out of luck. The only warranty all batteries for a year. If you got two years out of your battery then you should be happy. I bought a new dell 9 cell off of ebay for $65.
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The 9 cell in my inspiron 9300 did the same thing about ten days out of warranty. If you didn't purchase the extended battery warranty then you are out of luck. The only warranty all batteries for a year. If you got two years out of your battery then you should be happy. I bought a new dell 9 cell off of ebay for $65.
What you're saying is true. You'd still think that a battery that costs $169. from Dell would last a little longer than one year, wouldn't you? Mine actually failed a little over the one year mark. The whole time I had the E1505, it was plugged into the wall. I probably used it on just battery power not more than 3-4 times in that year. It was fine until the last time I unplugged it and used the battery alone. As soon as I placed it back in the notebook stand and plugged it back in, the light started to flash. Thinking that it was just recharging, I didn't give it a second thought until I came home from work the next day to find it was still flashing. The battery test button showed it to be fully charged, but the light continued to flash. As I said, the laptop works on external power, but no longer works with the battery. I let the battery go completely dead, and then tried recharging it, but it won't recharge. My older Inspiron 1100 is still running strong on its battery and it is at lest 2-3 years older than the E1505. I've checked out cheaper batteries online from various places, but many are not brand new. Many sites warn against buying some of these batteries. I have used knock-off batteries in other devices without any issues, but I am hesitant to try one in this laptop, especially after the Dell battery recall. I don't need the thing to explode on me. Also, after having no issues with the 1100, I can't accept that I am going to have to buy a new battery just about every year fro the E1505. If Dell knew these things had a short life, why in the world were they or are they selling them? And, for $160.?? I suppose that's what bothers me the most. I feel as though I was deceived by slick Dell marketing, combined with a false sense of security in the quality in their products, after having bought other computers from them.
post #4 of 12
Batteries die, they don't last forever. The 9cell in my D820 had to be replaced at about the 13 month mark....but I know it was my fault. I was charging and discharging 2-3 times a day. There's not anybody that guarantees their batteries for more than a year. Mainly because there is no EXACT life expectancy on them. All you get is a decent guess. I've seen my fair share of 1100's with dead batteries. My Inspiron 8200 ate 4 batteries (was on its third pair when I sold it). While my Inspiron 5000e has 3 batteries that all hold a decent charge.
post #5 of 12
For those of you who had a Dell battery die on you...I have a question. Did the battery just seem to die overnight?

I never gave much thought to the battery issue but my Inspiron battery just died on me. Just a week ago, I could get atleast 1.5 hrs from my battery. Now, my battery only lasts 15 minutes. I realize that lithium ion batteries do degrade with age, but it is a gradual process and should NOT simply degrade overnight like this. I have read cases about other user's batteries dying in a similar manner such as mine. I have several other lithium ion devices (3+ years) in which the battery life is not as good as new, but still useable. It is strange that me (and others) have had their Dell batteries to appear to be fairly healthy, then degrade to an unuseable state in a week, so I am starting to suspect that maybe Dell deliberately put some sort of timed internal circuitry which is causing premature battery death (or fake a lower battery capacity) at just a little over a year.
post #6 of 12
It's normal for batteries of any laptop to experience sudden drops in life.

I had my E1505's 6 cell battery refilled for about $70 and a few months of time via batteryrefill.com

I did this over the summer, which was better than doing it during school-year.

Their FAQs about batteries are quite informative.
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I am about to have to buy my 5th battery (computer new in March 2006, batteries in 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, and now one in 2011.  It is like clockwork.  I just found this thread by searching for some battery management software fix that Dell may have released to fix this issue but have gotten nowhere.  It seems like when the computer is plugged in it does not have an acceptable duty cycle for charging and keeps the battery always topped of (charging, draining, charging, draining) in rapid sequence.  If we really babied our laptops and did a full charge and a full drain (even if it is drained at an inopportune time).  Having spent well over $500 on batteries for this computer which is a burn rate unlike any other laptop I have ever heard it makes me want to get a consumer protection agency file a class action law-suite on behalf of those who bought this computer to cover every 4 of 5 dead batteries and throw a new one in for consolation.

post #8 of 12
They sure destroy the term "mobile" in this notebook model laugh4.gif

cheers ...
post #9 of 12
My impression is it's not at all just Dell that had these design problems with batteries 5 years ago. If I were to buy a new battery, I'd keep the old one in when its plugged in and swap out with good one when I need to go places....

I do love and still use my E1505 though smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Gertlex View Post

My impression is it's not at all just Dell that had these design problems with batteries 5 years ago. If I were to buy a new battery, I'd keep the old one in when its plugged in and swap out with good one when I need to go places....
I do love and still use my E1505 though smile.gif

Now, this is a good tip. headbang.gif

cheers ...
post #11 of 12
July 1996 was when I purchased my Dell Latitude LM and the factory battery was down to less than :20 minute life after three years and countless 'deep-cycles' when I purchased a Dell "Spare Parts" replacement. They told me that was less cost than a new one, but it would be "re-furbished" but at less than half the price, I selected it. I have minimized 'deep-cycle' on this battery and to this day, it still provides more than :20 minutes useful life, I just used it last month for an important 'DOS' program {P&W's ECTM IV}, I know this is unbelievable, but I swear that it is true, well past eleven years and it still functions.

In 2004 I purchased a Latitude D800 and the factory battery (again minimum deep-cycles) was replaced (total failure) by an 'Amazon' $36 replacement two years ago and it is still doing fine.

In 2008 I purchased a Latitude D830 that came with a (larger than the D800) six cell battery and I immediately ordered the nine cell battery for increased capacity. I carefully kept one of those batteries at a 40% charge in a refrigerator and swapped them every few months. Just like the OP mentioned; at 13 months both batteries gave the rapid flash on the icon and would not supply Any Power at all. I have now purchased two cheap (nine cell) Amazon replacements and they have lasted much less than one year each to complete failure (a hiccup in power supply and it reboots). I have just ordered a six cell Dell "Spare Parts" replacement at over five times the cost of the Amazon units, but hope to get a longer service life from it....

It almost seems that the charging algorithm on my D830 was designed to sell more new batteries.
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Originally Posted by pilotart View Post

July 1996 was when I purchased my Dell Latitude LM and the factory battery was down to less than :20 minute life after three years and countless 'deep-cycles' when I purchased a Dell "Spare Parts" replacement. They told me that was less cost than a new one, but it would be "re-furbished" but at less than half the price, I selected it. I have minimized 'deep-cycle' on this battery and to this day, it still provides more than :20 minutes useful life, I just used it last month for an important 'DOS' program {P&W's ECTM IV}, I know this is unbelievable, but I swear that it is true, well past eleven years and it still functions.
In 2004 I purchased a Latitude D800 and the factory battery (again minimum deep-cycles) was replaced (total failure) by an 'Amazon' $36 replacement two years ago and it is still doing fine.
In 2008 I purchased a Latitude D830 that came with a (larger than the D800) six cell battery and I immediately ordered the nine cell battery for increased capacity. I carefully kept one of those batteries at a 40% charge in a refrigerator and swapped them every few months. Just like the OP mentioned; at 13 months both batteries gave the rapid flash on the icon and would not supply Any Power at all. I have now purchased two cheap (nine cell) Amazon replacements and they have lasted much less than one year each to complete failure (a hiccup in power supply and it reboots). I have just ordered a six cell Dell "Spare Parts" replacement at over five times the cost of the Amazon units, but hope to get a longer service life from it....
It almost seems that the charging algorithm on my D830 was designed to sell more new batteries.

laugh4.gif They learn this from printer manufacturers ...

cheers ...
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