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How to output 1080i to external TV via component cable from Inspiron E1705 ?

post #1 of 34
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Hello everybody.

I have Inspiron E1705 with WUXGA (1920x1200) which I want to connect to my rear-projection TV that has only component video inputs.

I've bought this S-Video to Component adapter:
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...2&sku=310-8272

But when I switch to external monitor (TV) via Fn-F8, the screen switches to 1024x768 (TV starts showing in that resolution too), and there is no way I can raise the resolution.

But I really want HD 1080i !
I know my TV can support it, as I can switch my XBMC to 1080i and TV switches to it.

I tried to play with PowerStrip options, without much luck.

Is there any way to achieve my goal?

I have Windows XP Professional SP2.

Thanks a lot!
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post #3 of 34
What type of tv do you have?

I have a 50 inch Panasonic plasma and my tvs native resolution is somthing like 1377 x 7xx.... I dont remember but somewhere in that ball park...

I know that you can only take the resolution as high as the tv goes... Look in your TV manual....


What I do is that I have a DVI to HDMI cable. And I use the control panel with Nvidia, scale it to screen and BAAAm! Computer on tv!! Its sweet when playing games!! Enjoy!
post #4 of 34
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Originally Posted by dcmtnbkr View Post
But will it work with Nvidia cards? I have Nvidia GeForce Go 7800. I looked up similar adapters on the Internet, and it looks like they only work with ATI-based cards...
post #5 of 34
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Originally Posted by Progneta View Post
What type of tv do you have?

I have a 50 inch Panasonic plasma and my tvs native resolution is somthing like 1377 x 7xx.... I dont remember but somewhere in that ball park...

I know that you can only take the resolution as high as the tv goes... Look in your TV manual....

What I do is that I have a DVI to HDMI cable. And I use the control panel with Nvidia, scale it to screen and BAAAm! Computer on tv!! Its sweet when playing games!! Enjoy!

Unfortunately HDMI is out of the question, as my TV only has component inputs.

Isn't 1080i == 1920x1200 or 1920x1080 ?
Since XBMC can drive this TV in 1080i, I'd like to have the same from the computer...
post #6 of 34
I used it on a 7800GTX on my xps gen2

I belive there are some DVI - Component... just search the net... I got a 12 ft DVI to HDMI for 15 bucks....

Are you running a flat screed (LCD or Plasma?) Cause tube tvs make text hard to read
post #7 of 34
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Originally Posted by shturm View Post
Hello everybody. I have Inspiron E1705 with WUXGA (1920x1200) which I want to connect to my rear-projection TV that has only component video inputs. I've bought this S-Video to Component adapter: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...2&sku=310-8272 But when I switch to external monitor (TV) via Fn-F8, the screen switches to 1024x768 (TV starts showing in that resolution too), and there is no way I can raise the resolution. But I really want HD 1080i ! I know my TV can support it, as I can switch my XBMC to 1080i and TV switches to it. I tried to play with PowerStrip options, without much luck. Is there any way to achieve my goal? I have Windows XP Professional SP2. Thanks a lot!
SVideo will NOT do 1080i or 1080p..... You must use only Component Video Cables.... DVI Connection.... or HDMI ONLY.... You can get a DVI to HDMI or use just straight component..... Component Video Cables will only go up to 1080i. Svideo WILL not work or transmit 1080i or 1080p..... The ONLY cables that will do 1080P is HDMI and I believe DVI will as well... hope this helps.... let me know if you have anymore ?'s.
post #8 of 34
Hdmi and dvi are the same signal, only hdmi carries sound as well.
post #9 of 34
Try setting the tv as the primary monitor and then changing the resolution via display properties.
post #10 of 34
Correction, component CAN do 1080p if both devices support it. I use component output from my Xbox 360 to my Westinghouse 37" 1080p monitor, and it is definitely sending 1080p. VGA can as well.

Also, no NVIDIA cards that I'm aware of can use the ATI DVI-component adapter or DVI-component cables. I researched all of this when I was trying to figure out how to hook up my XPS Gen 2 w/ NVIDIA 7800 GTX to my Mitsubishi 55" RPTV, which only has component and RGBHV inputs. RGBHV is the exact same signal as VGA, but broken out into its 5 components, red, green, blue, horizontal and vertical sync. If your TV happens to have RGBHV inputs (component + white and yellow terminals for H and V), you can use this cable to connect your notebook with NVIDIA card to your HDTV. Otherwise your only option would require a hardware solution, something like this VGA to component transcoder box. http://www.digitalconnection.com/pro...video/9a60.asp

Or, if you happen to have a high-end AV reciever that has HDMI inputs and component outputs you could use a HDMI-DVI cable to hook your notebook to your receiver and component cables from the receiver to your HDTV. At least in theory, I'm not sure which receivers can do that.

This whole S-video to component dongle is new to me, though, but it sounds like its "working" if your TV is in fact displaying 1024x768. I think at that point its just a software/driver issue, and you should be able to get 1080i/p after some tweaking with PowerStrip. Read: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...ght=powerstrip
But keep in mind that's for an old first-gen rear projection set, I don't know whether the timings would be different for yours. Still lots of good general info for working with Powerstrip though.
post #11 of 34
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Originally Posted by dcmtnbkr View Post
Hdmi and dvi are the same signal, only hdmi carries sound as well.

You are correct.....
post #12 of 34
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Originally Posted by Blahman View Post
Correction, component CAN do 1080p if both devices support it. I use component output from my Xbox 360 to my Westinghouse 37" 1080p monitor, and it is definitely sending 1080p. VGA can as well.

Also, no NVIDIA cards that I'm aware of can use the ATI DVI-component adapter or DVI-component cables. I researched all of this when I was trying to figure out how to hook up my XPS Gen 2 w/ NVIDIA 7800 GTX to my Mitsubishi 55" RPTV, which only has component and RGBHV inputs. RGBHV is the exact same signal as VGA, but broken out into its 5 components, red, green, blue, horizontal and vertical sync. If your TV happens to have RGBHV inputs (component + white and yellow terminals for H and V), you can use this cable to connect your notebook with NVIDIA card to your HDTV. Otherwise your only option would require a hardware solution, something like this VGA to component transcoder box. http://www.digitalconnection.com/pro...video/9a60.asp

Or, if you happen to have a high-end AV reciever that has HDMI inputs and component outputs you could use a HDMI-DVI cable to hook your notebook to your receiver and component cables from the receiver to your HDTV. At least in theory, I'm not sure which receivers can do that.

This whole S-video to component dongle is new to me, though, but it sounds like its "working" if your TV is in fact displaying 1024x768. I think at that point its just a software/driver issue, and you should be able to get 1080i/p after some tweaking with PowerStrip. Read: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...ght=powerstrip
But keep in mind that's for an old first-gen rear projection set, I don't know whether the timings would be different for yours. Still lots of good general info for working with Powerstrip though.

Component doing 1080p.... hmmmmm... through personal conversations I've had with the folks over @ Monster Cable they don't seem to think so....

somebody want to do more research on this....?
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post #14 of 34
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Originally Posted by dcmtnbkr View Post

How is component video...5 Video Signal Connectors (RGBHV)

Component Video is 3 video like RCA type connectors = http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=1611

Me confused...
post #15 of 34
lets make this clear

SVIDEO multi port - useful for video out (s-video/composite/component) .. will be restricted to around 480i/p . . max res of 1024x768. Also useful for getting sound through digital-out in the form of coaxial spdif. Repeat . .you cannot output 1080i like you want with this port.

vga - useful for connecting to a external monitor/tv with vga, supports multiple resolutions.

dvi - connect to monitor/tv with dvi, also can easily be adapted to HDMI, supports multiple resolutions. there are some dvi -> component adaptors available , not compatible with all tv's or gpus . . i personally haven't used this adaptor

me. . I use dvi -> hdmi @ 1080p to my TV , and svideo -> spdif for my surround sound.

hope that clears things up
post #16 of 34
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Originally Posted by DarcyV View Post
SVIDEO multi port - useful for video out (s-video/composite/component) .. will be restricted to around 480i/p . . max res of 1024x768. Also useful for getting sound through digital-out in the form of coaxial spdif. Repeat . .you cannot output 1080i like you want with this port.

Is there any independent proof of that?
post #17 of 34
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Originally Posted by shturm View Post
Is there any independent proof of that?

fine, don't belive me . . I have the component adaptor too (came with my m17010) . . its not possible.

but search google if you don't . . it'll say the same thing

from wikipedia about svideo ports:

"S-Video, as most commonly implemented, carries 480i or 576i resolution video" & "Due to a lack of bandwidth, S-Video connections are generally not considered suitable for high-definition video signals. As a result, HD sources are generally connected to a monitor by way of analog component video or wideband digital methods (usually HDMI or DVI)."

so . . .. . this multi svideo port is not an HD connection

I realize that some devices support 1080i/p over componenet ports (I too have a few xbmc enabled xbox's)....., however . . this port is only an svideo port, you can can change the interface of this svideo port to component, BUT its still svideo quality at heart . . so no HD for you over this connection.

If you only have component on your crappy old RPTV, and must have an HD signal from your notebook, maybe try the DVI -> component adaptor, and see if that works for your set . . although, I think ati gpus support this feature better, I've never tried it on an nvidia gpu (heard about compatability issues) . . .. maybe just think of getting a more modern HDTV with vga / dvi / or just a bunch or HDMI ports
post #18 of 34
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Originally Posted by DarcyV View Post
"S-Video, as most commonly implemented, carries 480i or 576i resolution video" & "Due to a lack of bandwidth, S-Video connections are generally not considered suitable for high-definition video signals. As a result, HD sources are generally connected to a monitor by way of analog component video or wideband digital methods (usually HDMI or DVI)."

so . . .. . this multi svideo port is not an HD connection

Thank you, that clarifies the issue.
post #19 of 34
So what about the review on the Dell site saying the guy is using it to run 1920x1080i? It's not beyond the realm of imagination that it could in fact be capable of HD resolutions.
post #20 of 34
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Originally Posted by Blahman View Post
So what about the review on the Dell site saying the guy is using it to run 1920x1080i? It's not beyond the realm of imagination that it could in fact be capable of HD resolutions.

yes it is beyond that realm aswell.

I'd like to read this review (link?), but regardless, this guy:

A: was mistaken, and maybe confused the vga or dvi with s-video port
B: was lying .. because it is technically impossible
C: assumed it could, wrote it anyway (looks at component adaptor that came with his notebook and guesses it can, but never actually researches it or tries it)
D: i dunno, maybe you are confused, and read the review wrong.

but .. all I know is it can't . period.
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