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post #1 of 12
9/28/07 at 10:51pm
Thread Starter 
Ok just configured a decent setup from dell.ca. And the US price is still considerable cheaper then the Canadian version.

Sounds like the same crap the auto makers are doing.

Going to give them a call in the morning and ask some questions.
This is what I looked. For =$4269 Canadian. (US and Can $ are par now)

Components
PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme X7900 (2.8GHz/800Mhz FSB, 4MB Cache), English edit
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium Edition, English edit
SYSTEM COLOUR Smoke Grey edit
MEMORY 2GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz edit
HARD DRIVE 120GB SATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) edit
GRAPHICS CARD 512MB Dual NVIDIA® GeForce® 8700M GT with NVIDIA® SLI® Te edit
OPTICAL DRIVE CD / DVD Burner (DVD+/-RW Drive) edit
PHYSICS ACCELERATOR AGEIA™ PhysX™ Physics Accelerator edit
Essentials
PRODUCTIVITY SOFTWARE Microsoft Works 8. DOES NOT INCLUDE MS WORD edit
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WIRELESS CARD Intel® PRO/Wireless 3945 Internal Wireless edit
SECURITY SOFTWARE McAfee SecurityCenter with anti-virus, anti-spyware, firewall, 15-months edit
ONLINE DATA STORAGE DataSafe Online Backup 10GB for 1 year edit
BLUETOOTH Built-in Bluetooth capability (2.0 EDR) edit
HARDWARE SERVICES 3 Yr Next Business Day Onsite Service,CompleteCare,Lojack and Tech Support edit
BATTERY OPTIONS 80 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Prim edit
SOUND OPTIONS High Definition Audio 2.0 edit
Accessories
ALSO INCLUDED WITH YOUR SYSTEM
LCD Panel 17 inch UltraSharp TrueLife Wide-screen WUXGA
2nd Controller Logitech® GamePanel Display
Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 7.0

This is the US system. For $4622.
My Components
LCD PANEL Smoke Grey edit
PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme X7900 (2.8GHz/800Mhz FSB, 4MB Cache) edit
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium Edition edit
MEMORY 2GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz edit
HARD DRIVE Speed: 200GB SATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) edit
OPTICAL DRIVE Blu-ray / DVD / CD Burner (Blu-ray Disc Drive) edit
VIDEO CARD NVIDIA®SLI™Dual GeForce®8700MGT with 512MB GDDR3 Memory edit
WIRELESS CARDS Intel® PRO/Wireless 4965a/g/n Mini Card edit
BATTERY OPTIONS 80 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Prim edit
SOUND OPTIONS High Definition Audio 2.0 edit
My Software & Accessories
ANTIVIRUS SOFTWARE No Security software pre-installed edit
PRODUCTIVITY SOFTWARE No Productivity software pre-installed edit
PHOTO AND MUSIC SOFTWARE No Entertainment software pre-installed edit
My Service
WARRANTY AND SERVICE 3Yr In-Home Service, Parts + Labor, 24x7 Phone Support edit
ACCIDENT AND THEFT PROTECTION Add Accidental Damage and LoJack Theft Protection to 3Yr Warr. edit
DATASAFE ONLINE BACKUP DataSafe Online Backup 10GB for 1 year edit
DIAL-UP INTERNET ACCESS No ISP requested edit
ENVIRONMENTAL OPTIONS Free Recycling Kit edit
ALSO INCLUDED WITH YOUR SYSTEM
LCD PANEL 17 inch UltraSharp TrueLife Wide-screen WUXGA
Physics Game Accelerator AGEIA PhysX™ 100M Processor
Labels Windows Vista™ Premium
GAMING LCD Logitech® GamePanel Display
Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 8.1
Processor Branding Intel Centrino Core Duo Processor
post #2 of 12
9/28/07 at 11:00pm
just buy from US.
post #3 of 12
9/28/07 at 11:25pm
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Originally Posted by diefool View Post
just buy from US.

Can't order a system from Dell USA and ship it to Canada. They will referr you to Dell Canada.

You can buy a used laptop and transfer ownership to Canada.
post #4 of 12
9/29/07 at 6:39pm
I bought mine off ebay brand new in box and saved $1000. This was 2 years ago! However these days there are more scams then ever.
post #5 of 12
9/29/07 at 7:57pm
This is a common issue across the board affecting all retailers.
Despite the dollar being at par, the problem lies with the Retailers setting prices to a particular market.
Wages for most jobs are higher than the same job in the USA, so retailers tend to say Canadians have more expendable income than the US. Personally I find this a crock. I have lived in both countries doing the same job with the same company. I look at it this way. Take your annual salary as a pie. slice out your expenses and taxes on both, at the end of the day, my personal expendable income is minimally higher in canada. Retailers look at this and think we can pay more for things.
Honestly, we are in strange times. The US economy in in deep trouble, and ours is humming along. Retailers cant adjust prices of things fast enough and in the big picture if everything were to drop right away, that would lead to deflation which causes a bunch of new major economic issues.
The CDN $ is forecast to remain above par and float around 1.01-1.06 over the next couple of years, and I think the canadian consumer will have to apply serious pressure to Retailers to bring the prices down. Already there is a class action suit against automakers for the cost difference for the same car in the USA and canada which can range to as much as $15000 for the identical car. Keep your eyes on that one, if its successful, you will see alot of backpedalling real fast across the board in all industries.
post #6 of 12
9/30/07 at 12:45am
Thread Starter 
Yeah the automakers have been digging us fo rteh last few years. My truck in Houston (I work there) is around $37,000. That same truck in Canada is well over $50,000.

It's about time they got called out on this one. Anyways I think I will wait till teh next go around. Got burned on the old XPS gen2. Upgrade my A%$.
post #7 of 12
9/30/07 at 1:51pm
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Originally Posted by newfiejudd View Post
Got burned on the old XPS gen2. Upgrade my A%$.
I bought my XPS Gen2 through Dell.com and my purchase coincided with a business trip to the US, so I had it delivered to the Hotel with the note "Hold for Guest" and picked up the machine when I checked in. Saved hundreds of dollars, even with paying duties and taxes. The moral of that story: Hotels are used to receiving packages for business travellers all the time: they have processes in place to receive shipments on behalf of guests if the guests are registered with a reservation. If you're travelling, order the machine far enough in advance that it will arrive before you. Also, if it arrives AFTER you check out, the hotel will ship it to you, with shipping costs, etc. It's a gamble if it doesn't arrive while you're there, but it's worked out well for me. Re: cost of M1730 in Canada vs. US: Too bad you didn't do your build on the 27th: dell.ca showed a very good upgrade price on the X7900 over the T7700: $300 instead of $650. I got the exact same machine as you speced for $3824 including XPS backpack... which is why I lept before looking any further. I'm excited, but also thinking I should have waited until an M1330-style 17" XPS was released, maybe next year... but it's only money, right? :-|
post #8 of 12
9/30/07 at 2:25pm
until they have a 8800 or better series card I will hold off.

of course if you can wait, they will eventually end up in the Dell Outlet for less as well.

And there the "Sale" prices from time to time
post #9 of 12
10/1/07 at 10:45pm
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Originally Posted by lorax1284 View Post
I bought my XPS Gen2 through Dell.com and my purchase coincided with a business trip to the US, so I had it delivered to the Hotel with the note "Hold for Guest" and picked up the machine when I checked in. Saved hundreds of dollars, even with paying duties and taxes. The moral of that story: Hotels are used to receiving packages for business travellers all the time: they have processes in place to receive shipments on behalf of guests if the guests are registered with a reservation. If you're travelling, order the machine far enough in advance that it will arrive before you. Also, if it arrives AFTER you check out, the hotel will ship it to you, with shipping costs, etc. It's a gamble if it doesn't arrive while you're there, but it's worked out well for me. Re: cost of M1730 in Canada vs. US: Too bad you didn't do your build on the 27th: dell.ca showed a very good upgrade price on the X7900 over the T7700: $300 instead of $650. I got the exact same machine as you speced for $3824 including XPS backpack... which is why I lept before looking any further. I'm excited, but also thinking I should have waited until an M1330-style 17" XPS was released, maybe next year... but it's only money, right? :-|
How did you end up paying taxes and duties? Did you bring the box with you back to Canada?
post #10 of 12
10/1/07 at 11:22pm
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Originally Posted by In$pired View Post
How did you end up paying taxes and duties? Did you bring the box with you back to Canada?
Well, when you declare your purchases over your weekly limit, you pay taxes (no duties, actually) on the portion over $750.
post #11 of 12
10/2/07 at 12:29am
you can just say it's a gift and P00f no taxes, or you can gift it to yourself, poof no taxes.

mail it to yourself.

greyhound it over the border. mail it just over the border and pick it up.

or this is my favorite. don't tell them
post #12 of 12
10/2/07 at 2:27am
and when customs checked you get on the black list, then you get to have a great time and a friendly full body cavity search every time you cross a boarder. also you can end up with a huge bill, losing your items, and any number of other things.


short and sweet of it is dont screw with customs, they have so much more power than people would think. they can really make your life hell.

also avoiding taxes is illegal and nobody here should be advocating illegal actions.
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