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eMachines m5310 with an 'overheating' problem

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
Hi, first thanks for taking the time to read my post.


I recently bought an eMachines m5310 for a really low price, however the seller did state it had an overheating problem. He installed a new heat sink and said it worked fine now.

Well it doesn't work fine. I verified that the heat sink was new, and that the fans and vents were dust free. But the unit still crashes for no reason, and its hard to believe its because of overheating.

Here is what is happening:

I turn on the unit and windows boots fine, and everything works. I'll surf the net for a bit, open some files, and it works fine. But if I try to copy some files from a DVD, or install a program it will crash and reboot.

When it reboots, it freezes as the 'loading bar' on the windows xp screen stops in one spot. It will keep doing the same thing unless I wait 5-10 minutes before I turn it on and then windows will load.

The same thing will happen if I shut down the unit when it is working fine. It will freeze upon restarting unless it has time to cool off. Even though it has only been on for 5-10 minutes, without playing games, or doing anything to stress the processor.


Now when it crashes, a blue screen will flash momentarily. Not enough time to read what it says, but it's a full screen worth of text.
Also there are strange noises coming from the right side of the computer near the bottom. Electronic squeaking sounds as windows boots, and when it freezes upon booting windows, it freezes on a squeak. Thinking it was the hard drive, I replaced it, but that didn't help. The hard drive is on the left side of the laptop, and the squeaks are coming form the right.

I ran Norton WinDoctor right after restoring it with the restore discs, and it had already found 30 errors. I fixed them, but it didn't help the situation.

So I'm finding it hard to believe that it would overheat so fast and crash. Could it be a problem with the motherboard? Or maybe the ram?

I'm not a computer pro, so I would greatly appreciate your help.
post #2 of 13
Thread Starter 
I took it apart and found out that the noises are coming from the CPU. Also, it is overheating quite a bit, and it seems that the fan kicks in only when its too late.

I took a picture of the blue screen and it read:
IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
I found out online that this is an error message that you can get if your PC overheats.
post #3 of 13
They had issues with part of the 5000 series overheating, and I believe had a recall on the first heatsinks/fans that were put in place. They would replace them with the newer fans, with smaller blades. My idea would be to search around and try to score one of the newer fans.

Also, have you checked under your current heatsink to make sure they put thermal paste on the cpu?
post #4 of 13
Thread Starter 
Yes there is thermal paste on the cpu. And the entire heatsink/fan assembly is new.

I did a lot of searching and reading online. And found others experiencing the same problem as I.

The problem I'm experiencing is not due to the CPU overheating, but to a chip on the bottom of the motherboard that regulates the the hard drive.

It has been causing the hard drive to run hot and crash. I ran a program called mobtemp that showed the temp of the hard drive, and it would run up to around 45c and crash after.

I took the whole thing apart today. Taking off a big black sticker from the motherboard that covered up those chips that were overheating and causing them to act up.

However it did not help much. My hard drive did run cooler, but my computer still crashed.


I don't know what is going on. I can watch youtube no problem, and it shows that its taking 70% of the cpu. But when I try to do anything with the hard drive like install a program, transfer files, dig up photos and look through them... the laptop crashes.
post #5 of 13
I guess I've been fortunate enough not to run into overheating (where the heatsink wasn't the problem) 5300 series laptops, as I haven't heard of this issue until now. It seems the removing the black sticker "solution" is hit or miss. It resolves the issue for some, but not for others.

This leads me to believe that this is probably not an easy (or cheap) fix unless you have access to parts and are able to do board level work. Unfortunately, I would have to say part it out, sell the parts and put it toward something new. =\

I wish you luck, I'll dig up some more info on this, but it seems to be a tough problem to fix.
post #6 of 13
Thread Starter 
Yeah, I'm probably going to sell it for parts.

I mean it works ok, I'm on it right now. It's only when you're loading or heavily accessing the hard drive in windows that it crashes.

I say that because when I'm reinstalling everything with the restore discs it installs everything just fine. It's only when I try to boot windows right after when its 'hot' that it won't boot. Or when I try to install programs, or put anything on the hard drive in windows that it crashes. I can transfer a small file, but anything over a 30 second transfer will crash it if its warm (I can get away with a longer transfer over 5 minutes) if I'm doing it in the morning when it has cooled down over night...

I'm posting this now because I think it will crash soon, hard drive temp is getting up there...
post #7 of 13
Thread Starter 
... Another thing is that the processor is really noisy. I don't know if that is normal or not. But when it is loading windows it is loud, sounding like R2D2. And when it fails to load windows it freezes on a 'beep'.

I've spent my entire weekend reading and working on this damn laptop. I bought this laptop for my wife so she can get away from her desk once in a while. I knew it had an overheating problem, but I assumed that if you don't stress the processor it would be fine.

If you can help me find a solution Cane I'll gladly send you some compensation via paypal.
post #8 of 13
I'll keep digging for answers, but definitely cannot accept any form of compensation =P

I like to learn about these machines, and the problems that come with them. Makes my job easier. I'll update here if I find anything.
post #9 of 13
Thread Starter 
Here's where I got my info:
http://www.dexplor.com/phpBB2/viewto...st=0&sk=t&sd=a

Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it.
post #10 of 13
I too own a 5310.
I registered for the class action suit but was unable to participate in the settlement because my computer was with my partner in Europe.
I am now back in Europe using my new Dell but there sits my 5310.
I am about to open it and clean it AGAIN for a bit more life.
We have a need for it as a word processor.
My question is, was there ever a fix engineered for this over heating problem?

When I return to the US later this summer should I bring the machine back with me and attempt to have it repaired?
Or should I take it to Greece with me next week and use it as a boat anchor?

When I checked for parts a couple of years ago I was told I could not buy a new heat sink or cooling fan or squat. All I could do was send it in. If I can now buy parts, where can I buy them?

Thanks
UTD
post #11 of 13
[quote=UTD;2849099]...I am about to open it and clean it AGAIN for a bit more life.[/QUOTE ]
sounded cool

Quote:
Originally Posted by UTD View Post
My question is, was there ever a fix engineered for this over heating problem?
other from within this forum? NO

Quote:
Originally Posted by UTD View Post
...When I checked for parts a couple of years ago I was told I could not buy a new heat sink or cooling fan or squat. All I could do was send it in. If I can now buy parts, where can I buy them?...
. eBay or
. pm SpinItch, he is a guru in emachines/gateway parts here (in my book)

cheers ...
post #12 of 13
Thanks
I sent SpinItch a PM just now.

UTD
post #13 of 13

How I fixed this issue

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Originally Posted by pmodzele View Post
Hi, first thanks for taking the time to read my post.


I recently bought an eMachines m5310 for a really low price, however the seller did state it had an overheating problem. He installed a new heat sink and said it worked fine now.

Well it doesn't work fine. I verified that the heat sink was new, and that the fans and vents were dust free. But the unit still crashes for no reason, and its hard to believe its because of overheating.

Well believe it,

I think this model was designed by and hand-full of monks in the side of a mountain of some undiscovered territory. But..... you are in luck because I have fixed the design flaw and it works fine for me now ( I am even running windows 7 on it ). And now for the bad news.

If you have never taken a laptop apart before and are not mechanically inclined, please stop reading this.

tools you will need:
1.)magnetized small phillips head screwdriver perfered
2.)drill with smallest possible drill bit (about the size of a pencil lead.
3.)no fear of messing up your laptop (as it is, it's unusable anyway)


You will need to remove the bottom cover from the laptop by turning it over ( closed, with screen side on the floor or desk or where ever you are working ) remove the screws. OH and before you start. UNPLUG FROM THE WALL AND REMOVE THE BATTERY. THIS WILL ALSO VOID ANY WARRANTY (that probably expired years ago like mine)

once you have the bottom of the laptop removed, you can visually see the fan and heat-sync.

measure (or eyeball) how far over this will be on the bottom shell.

next, start drilling, make your cluster of holes about the size of a half dollar, or just a little bigger if need be, This is going to allow nice, fresh, cool, air to be sucked through the bottom of the laptop once you get it back together. this will in turn, cool your processor off faster and better than sucking the recycled hot air back through until it eventually shuts off on you.

Now get the air duster and blow out all of the slivers of metal and plastic that are left over from drilling. MAKE SURE YOU GET ALL OF THEM OR THERE IS A CHANCE THE METAL SLIVERS WILL SHORT YOUR MOTHERBOARD BY GROUNDING ACROSS HOT CIRCUITS.

Finally, make sure the heat sync is free of clogs, best way to do this is to remove it and look through it. blow it out with the air duster if need be. (I washed mine in the sink, then let it dry for a few hours before putting it all back together.)

All that is left to do now is enjoy your crappy laptop just like me

all this being said, you need to play games on something else, THIS IS NOT A GAMING MACHINE, unless you are playing solitaire.

My laptop has shut off on me one time in the past year since doing this, and I was playing HALO at the time.

I hope this helps you. let me know if you have any questions or need further clarification.

Thanks,
OvrFlote
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