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post #21 of 42
10/9/07 at 8:00pm
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The article was used to point out that while QC's are nice, in a lot of cases they don't outperform DC's When they jack up the resolutions you get the effect I pointed out in my previous post- The system becomes GPU limited & the FPS numbers become moot (i.e. the 5 fps difference between a DC 3.0GHz @ 3GHz, and a QC OC'ed to 3.6GHz ).

That is why they (Tom's) don't' jack up the res to the max & play it, because then you add in the GPU as a factor, it affects the results of the gaming tests. Not saying the QC isn't better in many respects than the DC procs, but I grabbed a DC instead of QC because of the benefits over the QC for what I (and most) ppl currently do. Personally I figure by the time they optimize apps for 4 cores there will be 16 core procs on the horizon for consumers.
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post #22 of 42
10/10/07 at 12:01am
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did you read the last link I posted? the link in your original post, were testing older games at low rez, with min graphic settings. push the cpus more and you see what happens. quad is future proof. that's all I'm saying. more and more games are coming that use all four cores.

a dual core running at 3.85ghz can't keep up with a quad running at stock at 2.4ghz.... that can't be overlooked.

meh i dun like the word future proof......nothing is, yeah you got a quad core for gaming, ok cool, not many games as of yet will take advantage of it

and lets not forget AMD and Intel, AMD more so than Intel, how many times did they switch sockets for their cpu's?

pcie for video cards, ddr2 ram, ddr3 ram...........nothing is "futureproof"

slots change, things change, dvi, hdcp, hd, all that crap.........youll be lucky to have the componets you have for a year and still be on the gameing tip

and honestly, that orginal post article doesnt help anyone when prices of computers are so freeking cheap for so much, and laptops as well......NPR was just saying that everything (food, textiles, ect) are up and computers and laptops are at an all time low


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post #23 of 42
10/10/07 at 4:51am
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Originally Posted by MnemonicSyntax View Post
Specs?
currently it has two Xeon Quad core 1.83Ghz over clock 2.33Ghz, 12GB RAM, 4x73GB Serial Attach SCSI (SAS) 10RPM run as RAID 0, Nvidia 8800GTS. the system does support SLI, but I was told only in Quadro graphic card.
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post #24 of 42
10/10/07 at 5:11am
What do you do with it?
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post #25 of 42
10/10/07 at 7:52am
I'm thinking overkill if you ask me
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post #26 of 42
10/10/07 at 10:31am
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I'm thinking overkill if you ask me

Agreed.

Also, all that CPU power and the GPU is the bottleneck this time around....
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post #27 of 42
10/10/07 at 11:11am
Quads and duals aren't bottlenecking much though, as long as I can get 50+fps then I'm happy
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post #28 of 42
10/10/07 at 5:19pm
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What do you do with it?
let see, I plan to have kitchen sink and toilet build right next too it .... just kidding, I used lot of Virtual Server stuff for testing, I used to have alots of physical PC around and it make too much noise, not only that I paid too much for electronics for the physical PC
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I'm thinking overkill if you ask me
it not over kill when you have about 1o Virtual OS running and it pound like 99% of CPU all the time
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Agreed. Also, all that CPU power and the GPU is the bottleneck this time around....
Bottleneck? nah I can put SLI in there with a better Graphic card, but there are no need, since I only play WoW with two clients and still get 60fps
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Quads and duals aren't bottlenecking much though, as long as I can get 50+fps then I'm happy
I think my bottle neck is the disk array not pump out the data fast enought.....I am thinking about raid 0 with 8 disk rather then just 4
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post #29 of 42
10/10/07 at 7:38pm
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Bottleneck? nah I can put SLI in there with a better Graphic card, but there are no need, since I only play WoW with two clients and still get 60fps

My comment was merely a joke, you know, you hear all the time that CPUs bottleneck a system and this time it's other way around.

Though, only figuratively.
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post #30 of 42
10/10/07 at 7:59pm
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My comment was merely a joke, you know, you hear all the time that CPUs bottleneck a system and this time it's other way around. Though, only figuratively.
yeah!! I figure, but you know Vista using additional 2064MB ram for video card, it may sound crazy, but that alot of chunk of ram was take for video card...I don't think I have any bottleneck so far it ran everything I throw at it...not bad at all
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post #31 of 42
10/10/07 at 8:40pm
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If you are considering increasing speed of your HDD's you should look at the Savvio 15k.1 series
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post #32 of 42
10/10/07 at 9:31pm
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If you are considering increasing speed of your HDD's you should look at the Savvio 15k.1 series
I just read article from tomshardware.com this moring. I am not sure if I want to spend the money for new Savvio 15k. I know I can get 10k really cheap and already had them. I think I need a better raid controller rather on broad raid. my thought put was good but not as good as the article below http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/10/10/sas_hard_drives/
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post #33 of 42
10/10/07 at 9:34pm
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why does it say Dell Virtual disk 292 GB?
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post #34 of 42
10/10/07 at 9:40pm
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why does it say Dell Virtual disk 292 GB?
it an on broad Dell, when it create the array, I can't figure out how to change the name so it call "Dell Virtual disk" by default
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post #35 of 42
10/17/07 at 12:04am
JUST a FYI....I was reading maximum pc....The specs on the Raptor 10k over the 7200s isn't that impressive....It realllllllllly only gets impressive when you load up 4 Raptors on Raid 0, with some adaptec $1000 raid controller, then the thing is like twice the speed of a single drive, was amaaazing, but at a high cost The onboard raid controller slowed down the 4 raptors by half, with the adaptec the read / write speeds doubled.
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post #36 of 42
10/17/07 at 2:25am
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JUST a FYI....I was reading maximum pc....The specs on the Raptor 10k over the 7200s isn't that impressive....It realllllllllly only gets impressive when you load up 4 Raptors on Raid 0, with some adaptec $1000 raid controller, then the thing is like twice the speed of a single drive, was amaaazing, but at a high cost The onboard raid controller slowed down the 4 raptors by half, with the adaptec the read / write speeds doubled.
you are right it all depend on the controller as well, not just the drive, but the Dell Perc 5/E have an interesting through put, very nice I must say... look at this http://tweakers.net/benchdb/test/191/wide/? Also Adaptec was nice, but I refused to buy their product. I own a few products from them in the pass and they refused to update the driver even know the problems was causing slow through put, they told me at the time, if it transfer the data then it ok. must be my PCI, I went and got AMI at the time and it twice as fast.
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post #37 of 42
10/17/07 at 11:12am
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I wish the mods would move this forum to the main section. I know it has nothing to do with laptops, but it sure would generate a lot more traffic if it was not hidden in OT. Lol I didn't even notice this forum until about 4 months ago.
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post #38 of 42
10/17/07 at 11:30am
Agreed. The traffic down here is terrible, we only get a few frequenters and that's about all
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post #39 of 42
10/17/07 at 2:59pm
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post #40 of 42
10/17/07 at 3:04pm
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Well at least I'm not the only one that thinks that then, lol... What's funny is that most people that have laptops, still have desktops, so being able to use one site for all your needs would be nice.


I know it's a long way off from being as big of a desktop site, like others, but I figure there would be a considerable boost in traffic if they moved this hidden forum out into a more accessible part of the site.


I always feel like I'm in the back room with hiding from everyone when I am in this little niche ...now back to taking over the world...muahahahahahaha
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