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post #61 of 73
10/10/07 at 2:44am
More like 1330/3 MHz! But that's for the Desktops. Dunno what the laptop version would have...
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post #62 of 73
10/11/07 at 6:08pm
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lets back track for a bit, i would need a 64 bit OS to upgrade to 4gbs ram? i have home premium, so id have to get ultimate 64 bit.that sucks, i had no idea, so with a 32 bit your limited to only 2gbs of ram?
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post #63 of 73
10/11/07 at 6:38pm
no in 32 bit its like 3.2 gigs will show up...thats the total amount..
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post #64 of 73
10/12/07 at 2:43am
i believe the physical chipset limitation on the m9750 limits you to 2.5 gigs of ram so installing more than 3 gigs of ram in there would be a waste regardless if running 64 bit vista.
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post #65 of 73
10/12/07 at 12:31pm
no someone installed 4 gigs and got 3097 on theres...
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post #66 of 73
10/12/07 at 12:31pm
vista 64 bit will allow you to see all 4 gigs of RAM... i think it will allow up to 16 gigs or more but no RAM goes that high...
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post #67 of 73
10/12/07 at 1:05pm
The primary benefit of moving to 64-bit is the increase in the maximum allocatable system memory (RAM). Windows XP 32-bit is limited to a total of 4 GB, which is, by default, equally divided between Kernel and application usage. Using the /3GB switch in the boot.ini file forces Windows to limit the kernel to the upper 1GB and provides up to 3GB for applications. Windows XP x64 can support much more memory; although the theoretical memory limit a 64-bit computer can address is about 16 exabytes (16 billion gigabytes), Windows XP x64 is currently limited to 128 GB of physical memory and 16 TB of virtual memory. Microsoft claims this limit will be increased as hardware capabilities improve.
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post #68 of 73
10/13/07 at 5:28am
I have been trying to get Vista Home Premium x64 up and running on the 9750 for several days now. I have 4 GB of RAM installed, and Vista will not see more than 2.5 GB.

After some deeper digging, it appears as though not only do you have to have a 64 bit OS, but you also have to have a chipset that is capable of addressing more than 4GB of addresses. The 9750 is built around the intel 945PM chipset, which utilizes a 32 bit memory manager, and cannot address more than 4GB regardless of OS limitations. In order to see all the memory, we need a motherboard that is built on the 965 chipset, which can address up to 8GB.

I plan on contacting tech support as soon as I have a couple of minutes to see what they say, but I am not hopeful. It had been suggested that a BIOS update might "unlock" the mobo's ability to address more than 4GB, but in researching the problem on intel's site I am led to believe that this limitation is innate to the chipset and that there is not a workaround.

I'm just hoping that the next platform that AW releases will be based on the 965 chipset, and that they may let me "trade-up". I'm just glad I didn't pay the $1200 extra (as of when I ordered my system) for the 4GB thru them. At least now I've only wasted $200 for the RAM and $100 for the OS.....

Oh well.....
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post #69 of 73
10/13/07 at 5:41am
I'm no guru on MS, but I've heard Windows Vista no way no time will recognize more than 2.5GBs. But all is not lost, seems that the more you push the more the 4GBs may be utilized...though not recognized. Well thats what shazza told me anyway!



Zoid
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post #70 of 73
10/13/07 at 5:59am
Please see my post in this thread as well for some links regarding how the chipset is affecting this issue.
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post #71 of 73
10/13/07 at 6:10am
Yes sir, I just saw that one.

Again not a guru, but I wouldn't trip too hard on this...4GBs seems to be the obvious next step...people talk that 2GBs is just minimum/kinda weird.

I remember when I actually told a designer at work that 32MBs was enough and shouldn't have to upgrade to 128MBs for a while (he was obviously just trying to milk the corporate teet).

Course that was back in 1997...



Zoid
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post #72 of 73
10/13/07 at 6:22am
Yeah Boyd, I'm with you... It's just that I'm an enthusiast and quite enjoy pushing the limits of my system. I remember waaay back in the day when it was a real trick to get DOS programs to utilize any RAM over the 640KB barrier. I remember my buddy telling me "it's not like you really need a full MB of RAM anyway!"

Ahhhh the good 'ole days.....
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post #73 of 73
10/13/07 at 12:57pm
upper memory block, xms and ems memory which you could configure how you liked in the config.sys and autoexec.bat files in dos. bring back 1992 baby turn back the hands of time i'm all for it lol!
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