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post #41 of 57
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Originally Posted by Argh View Post
i do not trust they will use the same brand drives. they may accidentally pair up a hitatchi 200gb drive with a fujitsu 200gb in raid 0, for example. so i just want to do that upgrade myself as it is also cheaper that way.

i will just order their standard drive and take it out when i get the laptop and sell it. same thing if i chose to go with the 2.33ghz cpu as i would get that from newegg as well. order the standard cpu and sell it once i do the swap. can save a couple hundred bucks if i go this route.

AW buys large lots of drives, they don't buy mixed boxes of drives, then mix and match...

I can understand your issue of saving money, I did that. My m9700 came with a 100G Seagate 7200 rpm drive, so I bought an identical one from Newegg. I don't understand why you'd think AW has different manufacturers drives laying around, and they'd mismatch drives in a new configuration.

BTW, a customer upgrading the cpu voids the warranty.
post #42 of 57
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Originally Posted by Argh View Post
it's $647 at newegg and you can easily sell the standard cpu that it comes with for another $100 bucks or more.

warrant should not be voided for performing an upgrade. alienware even states it.

Alienware's policy is that all hardware is upgradeable by the user, except the motherboard and cpu due to customers screwing that up. The warranty will be intact for upgrades with the exception of hardware purchased elsewhere.

You can purchase a cpu upgrade through Alienware, but in order to keep the warranty intact, you have to ship your system back to them and have them do the work. Under warranty, AW will perform the upgrade for their vendor cost of the hardware which is about 10% less than retail, and shipping one way. AW provides the labor, run in testing, and return shipping free of charge. Out of warranty, you pay shipping, labor and vendor cost for parts.
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post #44 of 57
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Originally Posted by Argh View Post
in order to connect a high def. source to an hdtv you need either hdmi, vga, dvi, or component hook ups. my hdtv does not have a vga or dvi but it does have component and hdmi inputs. my sager came with a component dongle that is pluged into the s-video out port and i can use component cables running from that component dongle to the component inputs on my hdtv for high def. i never tried the component dongle with my sager but i assume that's what it does. high end desktop graphics card even come with the component dongles so you can connect them to a high def. tv through the s-video out port. so i am wondering if the alienware's s-video out port is capable of doing this.

Did you buy your tv because you preferred the case, rather than getting an HDTV with appropriate input ports?
post #45 of 57
i spent the extra money on a hdtv and i got the one with every hook up you can think of on it...saves time in the end hooking things up...
post #46 of 57
Thread Starter 
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Anyone buying a high end notebook that has done their research will see that Dell's "512m dual nvidia 8700m gt SLI" statement is a blatent lie and misleading. SLI cards do not work in a way where dual 256 cards will result in a total of 512m onboard memory being used at once. Shame on Dell.

one of the primary reasons for sli is to drive higher resolutions at acceptable frame rates by the combination of the total memory for the sli configuration. another aspect of sli is to enable anti-alliasing without a performance hit. running native resolution of wuxga would benefit from sli. are you disputing these? if so then what is the point of sli?

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Anyone buying a high end notebook that has done their research also will know that dual 256 8700gt cards in SLI will in no way compare to the performance of dual 512 7950gtx crds in SLI.

the 7950 sli setup is stronger than the 8700. but the performance difference of 1,000 points is not world's apart. you are leaving out native direct x10 games and physics card support that the m1730 can do so future games may indeed look and play better on the dell.

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As for your allegation of AW's "flat out lie", the text was written prior to the SR processor being available. If you're looking for accuracy, I'd suggest you contact AW and inform them they're liars, or sue them for false advertising.

maybe you should call them yourself since you are acting like a fanboy. i don't care if the statement was written prior to the santa rosa platform. it should not be on their web page fooling people like that. or they can change the wording to somethine like "fastest mobile processor available that is offered through alienware!".

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Anyone buying a high end notebook knows that the term "faster" has no meaning in the context you're using it. An AW 9750 will outperform the Dell whatever in benchmarks, despite your belief that an 800mhz fsb will trump faster video cards in game performance.

what context am i using for the term fast? the m9750 will only outperform the dell in 3dmark scores. all other scores the dell will be the winner with it's faster cpu assuming their raid 0 performance of both laptops are equal. not everyone buys a laptop based on the synthetic benchmarks of 3dmark. and i never said 800mhz fsb trumps a faster video card setup

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Why is it you're asking these questions anyway if you know all the answers? If you believe a compromised built to a price point Dell with 8700gt's will outperform an "outdated" system from a company that "flat out lies", buy the Dell. You seem like the perfect customer for their BS PR.

i did not know the answers to the questions i originally asked. i know the performance of the m9750 and how it measures up to the competition. i never questioned that aspect. go back and re-read this thread if you must.

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Then buy the Dell. Why are you here posting this BS?

what BS have i posted? everything i posted is based on fact. i did not make anything up and i am not a fanboy, unlike what you appear to be. i just had to correct the one that attacked me.

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So what you've said is you're going to buy an inferior product with outdated hardware from a company that "flat out lies" for $4500, instead of a better system for $3000 because you prefer the case?

nope. again i did not say anything like that. i never called the m9750 inferior and that it will cost me $4,500. is it outdated compared to the santa rosa platform? yes it is. is it still a very fast system? yes it is. does it have the best case design which i previously said that will weigh in heavily in my decision-making? yes it does.

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If your decision is about the case, wtf are you asking all these questions for, then refuting the advice given?

my questions delt with the general layout, case design, and operation of the notebook. are you implying that i should not refute given advice based on false information?

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If your decision is about the case, you've already said the AW case is superior. Why are you asking all these questions about hardware that you apparently believe you know everything about if your decision is about the case?

again, go back and re-read the thread. i do not know the general operation and use of the m9750 so i asked in here to get a feel for what this thing is like. but you are spouting BS that is un-related to what i have generally asked all because i appear to have upset you by claiming the alienware m9750 is not currently leading edge when i countered another poster's claim about this. if you can't keep your fanboysm out of the discussion i advise you to just stay away as you look foolish.
post #47 of 57
everybody lets just chill if you have anymore questions you can ask me im not going to jump all over ur case... its not my style...
post #48 of 57
Thread Starter 
if it's true that alienware won't let you upgrade the cpu i find that strange. they allow you to upgrade the gpu but not cpu? they are both the same dificulty in terms of the upgrade. both need gentle care, have the right part, and the removal and re-application of thermal paste.

not letting you touch the motherboard i fully understand that. but not the cpu.
post #49 of 57
with the cpu if its not installed properly can destroy the motherboard and all the components in the computer due to the heat that would build up if you install a video card and you screw it up your going to screw up the vid card not the whole thing. Alienware doesnt like people installing things that could screw up more than one thing in the computer...
post #50 of 57
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Originally Posted by Argh View Post
one of the primary reasons for sli is to drive higher resolutions at acceptable frame rates by the combination of the total memory for the sli configuration. another aspect of sli is to enable anti-alliasing without a performance hit. running native resolution of wuxga would benefit from sli. are you disputing these? if so then what is the point of sli?

What has that got to do with what I said?



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the 7950 sli setup is stronger than the 8700. but the performance difference of 1,000 points is not world's apart. you are leaving out native direct x10 games and physics card support that the m1730 can do so future games may indeed look and play better on the dell.

Again, what's that got to do with what I said?



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maybe you should call them yourself since you are acting like a fanboy. i don't care if the statement was written prior to the santa rosa platform. it should not be on their web page fooling people like that. or they can change the wording to somethine like "fastest mobile processor available that is offered through alienware!".

Maybe you should look up "flat out lie".



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what context am i using for the term fast? the m9750 will only outperform the dell in 3dmark scores. all other scores the dell will be the winner with it's faster cpu assuming their raid 0 performance of both laptops are equal. not everyone buys a laptop based on the synthetic benchmarks of 3dmark. and i never said 800mhz fsb trumps a faster video card setup

Do you have a link to performance data that shows the AW will only beat the Dell in synthetic benchmarks?



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i did not know the answers to the questions i originally asked. i know the performance of the m9750 and how it measures up to the competition. i never questioned that aspect. go back and re-read this thread if you must.

Reading it once was a waste of time. You're not the first person that comes in here and writes a book asking questions, then disputes the answers posted from people trying to help.





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what BS have i posted? everything i posted is based on fact. i did not make anything up and i am not a fanboy, unlike what you appear to be. i just had to correct the one that attacked me.

You've now called me a fanboy twice, but I'm attacking you?

You asked questions, then disputed the answers given, and I'm still not sure why you're here.

You've argued the Dell over the AW in this string, with the exception of the case. If it's the case that matters to you, why all the BS complaining about the hardware?



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nope. again i did not say anything like that. i never called the m9750 inferior and that it will cost me $4,500. is it outdated compared to the santa rosa platform? yes it is. is it still a very fast system? yes it is. does it have the best case design which i previously said that will weigh in heavily in my decision-making? yes it does.

You apparently have no memory retention for what you've posted.



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my questions delt with the general layout, case design, and operation of the notebook. are you implying that i should not refute given advice based on false information?

Where is it I said you shouldn't refute advice based on false information?



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again, go back and re-read the thread. i do not know the general operation and use of the m9750 so i asked in here to get a feel for what this thing is like. but you are spouting BS that is un-related to what i have generally asked all because i appear to have upset you by claiming the alienware m9750 is not currently leading edge when i countered another poster's claim about this. if you can't keep your fanboysm out of the discussion i advise you to just stay away as you look foolish.

Lol, thanks for your advice on how to look foolish, you're apparently an expert on that.
post #51 of 57
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Originally Posted by Argh View Post
if it's true that alienware won't let you upgrade the cpu i find that strange. they allow you to upgrade the gpu but not cpu? they are both the same dificulty in terms of the upgrade. both need gentle care, have the right part, and the removal and re-application of thermal paste.

not letting you touch the motherboard i fully understand that. but not the cpu.


What you find strange isn't really an issue when it comes to AW policy. That is their policy.
post #52 of 57
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Originally Posted by littlefrankus View Post
i spent the extra money on a hdtv and i got the one with every hook up you can think of on it...saves time in the end hooking things up...
I not only purchased the t.v. with the best hook-ups but also made sure it was under $1,000. I got lucky and continue to be happier than crap on a stick especially since it is a 50" DLP.
post #53 of 57
thats a nice grab basicvisual... definitely for a 50" sometimes the cheapest isnt the best thing to do but i got a good deal and it cost me like 50 bucks more for all the hook ups compared to the base model with little hook ups..
post #54 of 57
Looks like I missed all the fun earlier today.....
post #55 of 57
yeah it was alittle yesterday and today...
post #56 of 57
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Originally Posted by littlefrankus View Post
1) the power button only needs to be touch very lightly and it turns on its not like a mac and you have to hold it down for a couple seconds... 4) most drives bought if they are OEM drive will not come with screws for the drive you can just take two of the screws off the first one and place them on the second... 5) the raid drivers are found on the website just download them and then install the second hardrive 7) no indicator light for the card reader it does show an icon on the screen showing that theres something in there and is working... 9) the finish is really smooth and feels really good. I havnt had any of my finish rub off but thats why u have warranties... 10) the alien head will not be easy to remove you would have to take the back panel off the lcd screen and then this would leave a dip where the head use to go. Theres no feature in the bios where you can turn the alien eyes off... 12) the fan and heat sinks for the second card slot are there when you get ur computer u just wont have ur second card. I have some pictures in my signature of the back cover off when i was installing my RAM...
The warranty covers wear on the laptop? I have a bit of wear from having to fix an TV tuner issue for a couple times.
post #57 of 57
not to my knowlege you would have to call alienware...
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