NotebookForums.com › Forums › Notebook Manufacturers › Dell Forums › Dell Home (Inspiron, XPS, Studio) › [m90] Bought a T7600G, isn't overclockable...!?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[m90] Bought a T7600G, isn't overclockable...!? - Page 2

post #21 of 48
11/2/07 at 2:11pm
Somewhere on the internet, sounds like a convienient story for them lol.
Reply
Reply
post #22 of 48
11/2/07 at 2:49pm
they are rip-offs.. geeze..

They are playing wit your mind man.

listen to Sol, he knows what's up.

I can't wait until My m1710 board comes in.

then I will have an m1710, cept for the 9400 media-direct cover thing.
Reply
Reply
post #23 of 48
11/3/07 at 7:26am
The fact is that it-premier.de really sold the M90 with the G CPU and due to their statements it was ocable.

I don't think they are rip-offs because they were also the only shop which sold the G CPU seperately. This way I also got the G (formerly had the T2600 build in).

@ Kai

did he say something about sending your machine to him so he can do the flash? Try to tell him that the CPU was from him and I sold it to you...
Reply
Reply
post #24 of 48
11/3/07 at 8:22am
Thread Starter 
That's why i'm shocked. I've already said him the G is from him and i get it from 2nd Hand. He sells the M90 with 7600G an he can't give me the possibility and reason, why i pay that much money: to overclock the G in my M90!?!? Don't know how to get this ominous BIOS. It's named "Phoenix Rom BIOS Plus 1.10". But i can't find some information about it, much less a "patched" one...
Reply
Reply
post #25 of 48
11/3/07 at 10:25am
Phoenix Rom BIOS Plus 1.10 isn't anything special, it's a standard Dell BIOS. Heck your laptop is probably using it now. I really hope you succeed, but I really don't see it happening.
Reply
Reply
post #26 of 48
11/3/07 at 5:41pm
Kai Tee.. this is BIOS for M90 from Dell BIOS Upgrade Disk that Dell give me
with my T7600G i hope it's work

http://rapidshare.com/files/67235334/M90_A02.EXE.html

M90 Extreme on Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.de/DELL-Precision-M9...QQcmdZViewItem
Reply
Reply
post #27 of 48
11/3/07 at 6:03pm
That file is a standard Dell A02 BIOS file for the M90 with no modifications. The contents of the file & all it's code are identical.

It provides additional processor support, but does not allow overclocking.


AS far as that Ebay auction, They are offing the T7600G, but nowhere does it state that you can OC that processor on that particular system. Not to mention, anyone with that low of a rating I would be hesitant to do business with on that expensive of an item. It also say it has a light scribe drive, and he has not done anything on that account for over a year.
Reply
Reply
post #28 of 48
11/3/07 at 6:19pm
Thread Starter 
Hey Lyubomir23!

Thanks for your help. Unfortunately OCing with your Bios doesn't work. It's also the same size like the standard-M90-Bios. There are obviously no differences. Could it be that i have to change some hardware-things on the motherboard or other things?

The second link is helpfull, because i can ask him for his Bios-Version.

How can i decompile/open the Code of a Bios? Don't find toolz for this special Notebook-Bios...


Thanks, Kai
Reply
Reply
post #29 of 48
11/3/07 at 6:48pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by SolApathy View Post
That file is a standard Dell A02 BIOS file for the M90 with no modifications. The contents of the file & all it's code are identical.

It provides additional processor support, but does not allow overclocking.


AS far as that Ebay auction, They are offing the T7600G, but nowhere does it state that you can OC that processor on that particular system. Not to mention, anyone with that low of a rating I would be hesitant to do business with on that expensive of an item. It also say it has a light scribe drive, and he has not done anything on that account for over a year.
My M1710 also came with a labelflash drive so nothing strange about that (it-premier sold their systems with these drives).

He stated that he sells the item because of money problems and for such expensive items I always iloxx to be on the save side...

Maybe he cann really provide the Bios.
LL
Reply
Reply
post #30 of 48
11/3/07 at 6:52pm
Yes, label-Flash, not lightscribe. I said lightscribe in the piece that you quoted.

Want To OC with that T7600G? Get a M1710 motherboard.
Reply
Reply
post #31 of 48
11/3/07 at 8:13pm
i just picked up the mobo for under 200 bux shipped.
Reply
Reply
post #32 of 48
11/4/07 at 4:40pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kai Tee View Post
That is the matter. If i contact Dell (with my Service Tag) per Chat, Tel. or sth., and i ask for a Bios for my new T7600G, they would say me: "Sorry Mr. T., but we don't allow our customers to upgrade their CPU. Same for the Mobo. All other things aren't a problem, but now your warrenty is over, sorry!"
Sorry, but that's just untrue. See Dell response here:

http://www.notebookforums.com/showth...24#post2400024

They are legally required to allow upgrades. Of course, your warranty won't cover your new processor (d'oh!).
Reply
Reply
post #33 of 48
11/4/07 at 5:50pm
Thread Starter 
Don't know, if there are differences between the german support and the other Countries - but i've a chat with my Dell-Agent and ask for a graphiccard-upgrade. He said, that's no problem. Fine. Then i've ask for a later cpi-upgrade an he said, i don't be allow to upgrade the mobo as well as the cpu. All other parts i can build in allone without losing the warrenty...

I've spoken with the guy who sells his M90 with 7600G, which he have bought from IT-Premier. He said, he also can't overclock the G processor. I told him, howto find the ocing-function, but he see what i see. Nothing...
He never recognized, that this function exists. So i tell him, that the G is much more expensive as a normal 7600. So he call him tomorrow and wants to have the right BIOS or some money back...i'm optimistic.


...kai
Reply
Reply
post #34 of 48
11/4/07 at 7:38pm
By the way, I think the M1710 has a different PLL (clock generator) chip than the M90/9400 etc. One is a Cypress and one is an ICS. So I suspect even if you could get the M1710 BIOS working in the M90, it would probably not allow you to overclock in the same way...
Reply
Reply
post #35 of 48
11/4/07 at 11:24pm
Thread Starter 
The Pll differs from the 1710, that's quite plain to me. The point is not to get the 1710-BIOS working on a M90. That's impossible. The only thing is to change the hidden option "Overclocking", which is already present in the Bios (M90/M1710).

Another thing: Intel says, the 7600G has a unlocked multiplier and FSB. So if i get the PLL of the mobo, i also could try to increase the FSB in Windows, in theory! ...?

On the mobo i can't find some realizable information about the pll. Which of these 1000 numbers is the moboID?




Good night, kai
Reply
Reply
post #36 of 48
11/8/07 at 1:07pm
Listen, you bought a corporate fleet laptop. That's what a Dell Precision is. It is not an enthusiast product, it is not a gamer product. It is a machine for someone who sits in a cubicle all day drawing stuff in CAD or renders 3D graphics in 3DStudio Max. The overwhelming majority of Precision M90's that are out in the wild ARE NOT PRIVATELY OWNED. I'd wager 95% are in corporate fleets. And that's just what a corporate fleet needs, employees working on vital projects overclocking their systems and rendering them inoperable. That's why the M90 BIOS does not have an overclocking option. You would have been better off saving your money and buying a T7600 and just forgot about the T7600G.
Reply
Reply
post #37 of 48
11/8/07 at 1:44pm
Well but I'd like to know if this is possible for the E1705 then.
Reply
Reply
post #38 of 48
11/8/07 at 6:09pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookie092 View Post
Well but I'd like to know if this is possible for the E1705 then.
no
Reply
Reply
post #39 of 48
11/8/07 at 6:14pm
Buy a M1710 motherboard and you'll be fine.
Reply
Reply
post #40 of 48
11/8/07 at 6:53pm
second that ^^^^''
I went from an e1705, to a fully functional xps 9400.

cuz it says m1710 no where any where on the bios/ on the software or anywhere on devices.

the only place it says m1710 is on the top pop off cover. /hingecover.

my lappy now is a XPS I9400
Reply
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
NotebookForums.com › Forums › Notebook Manufacturers › Dell Forums › Dell Home (Inspiron, XPS, Studio) › [m90] Bought a T7600G, isn't overclockable...!?