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1920 x 1200 vs 1680 x 1050

post #1 of 24
11/8/07 at 11:32pm
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What kind of fps hit am I going to be looking at if I choose the bigger resolution here? The 1920 x 1200 resolution comes with the super high glossy screen which is why I am interested in it. The laptop I’m getting is the np5791 with the nvidia go geforce 7950 gtx, 2.4ghz core 2 duo, 2048 gigs of ram and windows xp. I am interested in crysis primarily and would like your opinions on what I should do. Thanks.
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post #2 of 24
11/10/07 at 8:56am
7950gtx can plow through that rez.......youll have to research whats good eye candy wise

hell you can prolly find a review on your laptop with that rez/video card, and see what you can run and how well it does

but right now, 7950gtx still owns the DX10 stuff out there, so youre good with that


soulsaver
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post #3 of 24
11/10/07 at 3:42pm
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Originally Posted by soulsaver_8229 View Post
7950gtx can plow through that rez.......youll have to research whats good eye candy wise

hell you can prolly find a review on your laptop with that rez/video card, and see what you can run and how well it does

but right now, 7950gtx still owns the DX10 stuff out there, so youre good with that


soulsaver

I will try to be the most objective as I can so I can to help save you some money. Soulsaver is mistaking on two counts: 7950GTXs can not plow through that rez with Crysis, and it doesn't own DX10 stuff, because it is not a DX10 card. 7950 GTXs are great cards, but Crysis is the tour de force of games right now, and even the most powerful desktop card can't run this game at 1920x1200 with more then around 25 fps. The higher your resolution the more the demand on the card. My laptop which has Dual 7950 GTXs gets around 20-30fps, at medium settings at 1680 x 1050, and my desktop which has dual 8800GTXs gets around 50-60fps on high settings also at 1680 x 1050. So you can see that just how demanding this game is.

Remember I am only speaking for the demo, as we don't know how optimize the full game will be.
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post #4 of 24
11/10/07 at 4:18pm
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I will try to be the most objective as I can so I can to help save you some money. Soulsaver is mistaking on two counts: 7950GTXs can not plow through that rez with Crysis, and it doesn't own DX10 stuff, because it is not a DX10 card. 7950 GTXs are great cards, but Crysis is the tour de force of games right now, and even the most powerful desktop card can't run this game at 1920x1200 with more then around 25 fps. The higher your resolution the more the demand on the card. My laptop which has Dual 7950 GTXs gets around 20-30fps, at medium settings at 1680 x 1050, and my desktop which has dual 8800GTXs gets around 50-60fps on high settings also at 1680 x 1050. So you can see that just how demanding this game is.

Remember I am only speaking for the demo, as we don't know how optimize the full game will be.
wow, youre very not so bright eh?

THIS IS A LAPTOP FORUM RIGHT? THIS IS GENERAL LAPTOP SUBFORUM RIGHT?

WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT A VIDEO CARD WHICH IS ON THE TOP 5 BEST LAPTOP VIDEO CARDS CANT PLOW THROUGH ANYTHING? AND YES I KNOW 7XXX SERIES IS NOT DX10 YOU N00B

good god all mighty

i didnt say crysis would be wtfpwn on that rez.......youd have to down the settings, but its dam sure do'able

25fps......guess what cheif your eyes cant see past 23fps so i guess hed be ok!

seriously.....get a clue


soulsaver
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post #5 of 24
11/10/07 at 4:19pm
oh and about the DX10 stuff

guess what cheif, there are DX9 cards that can do just as good as other DX10 cards

IE 8600gt vs 7950gtx

its already proven that gaming on DX10 video card platform isnt a HUGE diffrence

id get links but i think since youre so missinformed, ill let you do the work solo!

soulsaver
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post #6 of 24
11/10/07 at 4:26pm
nevermind here you go

it’s also clear that DirectX 10 isn’t going to completely change the landscape of gaming. As we said nearly a year ago in our DirectX 10 preview: “Is DX10 as significant an update as going from DX7 to DX8? Definitely not.” In that same article, Tim Sweeney said: “Realistically, DirectX 10 doesn't introduce fundamentally new capabilities, but brings many new features that will enable developers to optimize games more thoroughly and thus deliver incrementally better visuals and better frame rates.”

In other words, DX10 is an evolutionary upgrade over DX9, not revolutionary.

And just how does the latest high-end DX10 hardware stack up in today’s DX10 content? Unfortunately as it stands right now, we aren’t seeing the true potential of AMD’s DX10 hardware due to immature drivers, so we can’t even speculate on how the Radeon HD 2900 XT performs in comparison to the GeForce 8800 from NVIDIA. Quite simply, NVIDIA’s GeForce 8800 line takes the DX10 performance crown unchallenged. And as our tests show, only one DX10 app scales with CrossFire: Lost Planet. This means that AMD’s driver team not only has to tweak their DX10 driver for more performance, but CrossFire needs to be implemented as well if they’re going to mount an effective challenge to NVIDIA’s SLI.






Fortunately AMD knows this and they’ve told us that they’re hard at work on addressing these issues. We should see the first fruits of this in upcoming drivers later this year, hopefully as soon as Catalyst 7.10. We also know AMD has some interesting developments in the works in terms of CrossFire – already AMD has demonstrated 3-way CrossFire on their upcoming RD790 platform, with 4-way CrossFire in the works for that chipset as well. If everything goes according to plan, we should see this debut later this year.

Of course, NVIDIA won’t be resting on their laurels. Their nForce 680i chipset has boasted 3 PCI Express Graphics slots for quite some time now, and the second SLI connector present on their GeForce 8800 GTX/Ultra has been sitting there untapped for nearly a year now. It has also been an awful long time since we’ve seen a new GPU from NVIDIA, a company which is well known for establishing the 6-month product cycle in desktop graphics.
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post #7 of 24
11/10/07 at 5:10pm
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wow, youre very not so bright eh?

THIS IS A LAPTOP FORUM RIGHT? THIS IS GENERAL LAPTOP SUBFORUM RIGHT?

WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT A VIDEO CARD WHICH IS ON THE TOP 5 BEST LAPTOP VIDEO CARDS CANT PLOW THROUGH ANYTHING? AND YES I KNOW 7XXX SERIES IS NOT DX10 YOU N00B

good god all mighty

i didnt say crysis would be wtfpwn on that rez.......youd have to down the settings, but its dam sure do'able

25fps......guess what cheif your eyes cant see past 23fps so i guess hed be ok!

seriously.....get a clue


soulsaver
You need to calm down, I only reflected that your info was incorrect and I didn't want the original poster to buy something and be disappointed. It was not a personal attack on you, so don't take it that way.

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WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT A VIDEO CARD WHICH IS ON THE TOP 5 BEST LAPTOP VIDEO CARDS CANT PLOW THROUGH ANYTHING? AND YES I KNOW 7XXX SERIES IS NOT DX10 YOU N00B
If you read clearly, I never said it couldn't. I said it could not plow through that rez with CRYSIS. Which is what the OP was asking.


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i didnt say crysis would be wtfpwn on that rez.......youd have to down the settings, but its dam sure do'able
I never said you did, you said on your first post "7950GTX can plow through that rez" which could have been misleading to the OP, who was asking which rez was better to run CRYSIS.
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guess what cheif, there are DX9 cards that can do just as good as other DX10 cards
Dude I am not here to get into a battle with what cards are better then others. I am only here to help out the OP.You said "7950gtx still owns the DX10 stuff out there" which would have been also misleading to the OP who may have thought he could run....... key point CRYSIS.....in DX10 with a 7950GTX, which is untrue.
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didnt say crysis would be wtfpwn on that rez.......youd have to down the settings, but its dam sure do'able

25fps......guess what cheif your eyes cant see past 23fps so i guess hed be ok!

seriously.....get a clue
Not if he is running it in Vista its not, I have Vista & XP in dual boot on my laptop, and in Vista I get around 10-15 frames a second on medium, and to run it on low it would only disappoint the OP.

(Thus, the big misconception that our eyes can only see 30 frames or 60 frames per second is purely due to the fact that the mainstream displays can only show this, not that our eyes can't see more. For the time being, the frames per second capable of any display device isn't even close to the phrase "more than meets the eye".)

Link: http://amo.net/nt/05-24-01FPS.html



So take a chill man, I'm not here to fight you. I here to help the OP on getting the best out of his buy.

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post #8 of 24
11/10/07 at 10:21pm
I have to agree with the hothead. The 7950 is the best card in the mobile market. Period. If anything can "plow" (using that term loosely) 1920x1200, it's the 7950. And it does own DX10 capable video cards, even when the latter are in SLI.
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post #9 of 24
11/10/07 at 11:18pm
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I have to agree with the hothead. The 7950 is the best card in the mobile market. Period. If anything can "plow" (using that term loosely) 1920x1200, it's the 7950. And it does own DX10 capable video cards, even when the latter are in SLI.
Ok, but this is not what the original poster asked "will it run with Crysis?", so why even argue this point?
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post #10 of 24
11/10/07 at 11:28pm
Because it does run with Crysis.
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post #11 of 24
11/10/07 at 11:41pm
sigh, just get the 1200 and set the res back, itl blend nicely with the anti-aliasing and you will be able to view HD content in its native format :/ But thats jsut me.
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post #12 of 24
11/10/07 at 11:43pm
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Because it does run with Crysis.
Yes, I know. I clearly already stated that it runs on my laptop, but the OP didn't what to know if you could play Crysis, he wanted to know if you could play it at 1920x1200 an 1680x1050 with a 7950GTX. Well at 1920x1200 Crysis achieves a very low frame that its basically unplayable. He didn't ask how good the 7950 GTX runs other software running at 1920x1200.
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post #13 of 24
11/10/07 at 11:45pm
and in my first post i said youd have to do research to see what eye candy you can turn on

as in, 1900x1200 with nothing turned on it would be ok, maybe with a few things turned up



i get onto everyone that thinks im saying somthing im not, its a habbit on these forums........people twist your words to make you look stupid or retarded


when in fact you were trying to do said retardation, so as a result that happened

people can say what they want, but if youre a true gamer, eye candy is the last thing you think of, you think of rez and playable fps, eye candy is just there if you can push the right rez/eye candy

thats just me......

and 7950gtx and sli gtx are the gods of laptop video cards, bar none nothing touches them yet.......

so that will have to work for crysis, and i can assure you that there are plenty of DX9 cards that will play cyrsis

soulsaver
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post #14 of 24
11/11/07 at 12:17am
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Originally Posted by soulsaver_8229 View Post
and in my first post i said youd have to do research to see what eye candy you can turn on

as in, 1900x1200 with nothing turned on it would be ok, maybe with a few things turned up



i get onto everyone that thinks im saying somthing im not, its a habbit on these forums........people twist your words to make you look stupid or retarded


when in fact you were trying to do said retardation, so as a result that happened

people can say what they want, but if youre a true gamer, eye candy is the last thing you think of, you think of rez and playable fps, eye candy is just there if you can push the right rez/eye candy

thats just me......

and 7950gtx and sli gtx are the gods of laptop video cards, bar none nothing touches them yet.......

so that will have to work for crysis, and i can assure you that there are plenty of DX9 cards that will play cyrsis

soulsaver
Its not about you dude, the point of these forums is to help others with thieir notebooks.

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and in my first post i said youd have to do research to see what eye candy you can turn on

as in, 1900x1200 with nothing turned on it would be ok, maybe with a few things turned up
Do you think or do you know? The area 51 m9750 that I have sitting here, with a 7950GTX at 1900x1200 drags when I run Crysis at low settings. He ask if the laptop he was buying primarily for Crysis would run at one of the two resolutions. He didn't ask about other resolutions. One res it will while the other res unplayable. I would hate to see this guy feeling like he lost money when he came to the forums first for information. I would think we can all be civil and just help the community without getting our feathers ruffled or feelings hurt.
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post #15 of 24
11/11/07 at 4:02am
First of all, Soulsaver, you need to work on how you respond. You're seriously coming off as a major dickhead lately.

Secondly, there isn't a recent game that I can play at 1920x1200 with everything on high anymore with my single 7950GTX Go. CoD4 is barely playable at 1440x900 with everything on MAX (no AA). I think Vista has a lot to do with it, though. I CAN play Splinter Cell: Double Agent at 1920x1200. Oh, and I take it back, I CAN also play all the Source stuff at 1920x1200. Either way, you'll probably be playing a lot at 1440x900 or 1680x1050, but rarely full 1920x1200 with any sort of high settings.

Don't go off on me Soulsaver...
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post #16 of 24
11/11/07 at 9:44am
Tf2 Ftw!
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post #17 of 24
11/11/07 at 9:44am
I hate how it won't let you go all caps sometimes.
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post #18 of 24
11/11/07 at 1:52pm
no, a 7950gtx will not play crysis (on high) at 1920x1200... but it won't play it (on high) at 1680x1050 either, so just get the screen you actually want and be prepared to turn down the resolution
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post #19 of 24
11/13/07 at 7:23pm
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no, a 7950gtx will not play crysis (on high) at 1920x1200... but it won't play it (on high) at 1680x1050 either, so just get the screen you actually want and be prepared to turn down the resolution
Then what I want to know is the following: Say if you own one of these crazy ass resolution laptops like the Dell XPS (I mean my 55" TV has a 1920x1080 resolution, and then doing that on a 17" screen!!?!). What happens when you turn doawn the resolution in games? Does it look like crap because it isn't the native res? At least it does on my current laptop. When I run World of Warcraft in a res lower than it's native, the picture gets really unsharp / blurry and the text jerky / blocky (very hard to read).

.. or maybe this isn't a issue when it's comes to Vista because of everything being vector graphics? .. or is that just an advantage in Windows and not in games?
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post #20 of 24
11/13/07 at 10:12pm
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Then what I want to know is the following: Say if you own one of these crazy ass resolution laptops like the Dell XPS (I mean my 55" TV has a 1920x1080 resolution, and then doing that on a 17" screen!!?!). What happens when you turn doawn the resolution in games? Does it look like crap because it isn't the native res? At least it does on my current laptop. When I run World of Warcraft in a res lower than it's native, the picture gets really unsharp / blurry and the text jerky / blocky (very hard to read).

.. or maybe this isn't a issue when it's comes to Vista because of everything being vector graphics? .. or is that just an advantage in Windows and not in games?
You got it right Aidon. LCD screens are made with a single fixed resolution. If you change the resolution to anything other then what the screen was fixed for, you will get a blurry/unsharp image. Since this is a monitor issue, it still does this in Vista/XP/Games.
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