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post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
For legal reasons I must inform you that of course the following incident is only my personal experience with Hypersonic. I am aware though - as I'm sure you all are - that Hypersonic now scores a 3 out of 10 on Resellerratings.com, so I don't think my experience is singular. This may or may not be an accurate representation of Hypersonic's policies.

I serve the US military and learned that I was getting shipped overseas for 15 months last year, and decided to shop for a top-of-the-line laptop to take with me. After much research I found a system I liked, and while the same system was available from many retailers, I found Hypersonic PC and their AX20 to have the cheapest price. Since I was deploying soon I confirmed with Hypersonic via email their posted build schedule of 7-10 days. They confirmed this for me and I purchased a brand new Aviator AX20 from them on the 9th of January for nearly $4,000. To my disappointment, at the end of that month my system had mysteriously shipped twice but I had not received it or even a tracking number for its shipment. A few phone calls later, I at the end had to have my system overnighted (at my expense!) just so that I would receive it the day before I left on the 2nd of February, almost a month after my order was placed.
The first day of use I noticed a problem. This is what you can expect from Hypersonic's "burn-in" process. Already upset about the shipping issues, I contacted Hypersonic's service department the very next day about my computer overheating after 10 minutes every time I turned it on. Regardless of environment or use, the system would not fail to overheat. So I sent a couple of detailed emails telling them my problem and received a response of, "This is usually a sign of overheating. Check to see if the fans are working correctly." This is what the Hypersonic warranty will give you.
So, yes my fans were running fine thank you, but my computer was not. After a series of 4 months and 6 unanswered emails, I was finally told over the phone that my system was past its initial warranty period. This is another thing you can expect from Hypersonic. Their policy on returns or repairs is to just wait to respond to a customer's problem until the period in which it is covered has passed. I talked to two people for over two hours, pleading my story to Hypersonic and was granted a repair of the system finally on the 24th of July, nearly six months after I first received the system and noticed the problem. I was forced to ship the system at my own expense from Iraq, back to Hypersonic. It landed at their door nine days ago, and again after a number of unanswered emails, I have heard nothing of its progress. This is what you can expect from Hypersonic's repair department. I got a broken computer for seven months, and now have nothing except a $4,000 sized hole in my wallet.

As of August 22, 2007
I tracked my system through the mail to Hypersonic's repair department and it arrived there at 10am on the 26th of July. A few more inquiring emails later I received an email finally on the 9th of August saying that a faulty motherboard somehow made it past their mandatory 72 hour burn in process. They ordered a new motherboard for my system and said that it would be in for testing the next day, and possibly be ready for shipment the middle of the following week. 12 days later brings us up to date with only two more unanswered emails and still no system. I'm hoping they hold out for a few more months so that by the time that I actually get a working system, it will be completely obsolete. For those still considering buying from Hypersonic, stay tuned for more promising updates!

As of September 1, 2007
Well it has been 7 months since I "received" my system from Hypersonic and the result is still a total loss. This timeline is approaching ridiculous proportions. My series of emails were finally answered and the Hypersonic technician told me that despite their best efforts, the motherboard was not the problem with my system, and that they would be experimenting with replacing the processor. Most people know, and if they don't should, that to replace a processor in a computer takes all of two minutes. This of course is not the case with Hypersonic, as it has been since the 24th of August since I heard this news from the techs there. Eight days and two unanswered emails after their last response brings us up to date with a running total of 7 months, 22 emails, 8 phone calls, $4,000 and still no computer.

As of October 27, 2007
I received a few weeks ago an email from Hypersonic telling me that my computer was finally fixed, and that in order to get it back I would need to arrange payment with them to the tune of $450 for parts and labor. Horrified after all I had gone through, I thought that this had to be some simple misunderstanding. They assured me that it was not, because it was nearly eight months after my purchase date, the computer was after all not being covered under warranty and I would have to make the payment to get my computer back. I have not spoken directly with Hypersonic since then. After this ridiculous series of events, I was forced to take the legal route with this. After consulting a lawyer on the matter, they informed me that Hypersonic was in fact violating several laws including my own state and New York's Consumer Protection Act, as well as subjecting itself to liability for claims of breach of contract, fraud, mispresentation and conversion in reference to their policies and some things they claim on their website and in emails to me. As of today, they have 3 days to answer my demands for a full refund. I will update and let everyone who is also having problems with Hypersonic, or those of you who are looking into buying from Hypersonic, know how this matter ends.

It has now been 10 months since I received my AX20 from Hypersonic. I can't blame Hypersonic for a faulty motherboard perhaps, but I can blame them for shipping me a faulty laptop, and I certainly can blame them for not supporting their systems or customers in any way. Take this review for what its worth. I hope if you are an informed buyer looking to buy from Hypersonic, that you will review the 10 other retailers that sell the exact same systems that Hypersonic offers. If you are one of the unfortuante consumers who has purchased a Hypersonic system, then I pity you because I know that lawyers are expensive. Hope the price was right OCZ.
post #2 of 14
Sorry to hear what happened. I am glad that you got a lawyer who knows the law and can hopefully get Hypersonic to return your money.

I'm not sure whether this is a mark of all boutique shops or just Hypersonic, but it seems that larger retailers (such as Dell, Gateway, etc.) have less sagas such as this one (on a percentage basis) due to the availability of more resources and a more streamlined warranty process.

Best of luck,

z.
post #3 of 14
I have bought two hypersonic laptops in the past 4 years without any problems. I was in the market to buy a third laptop this past weekend and was going to choose hypersonic until I checked out reseller ratings and found out how much this once great company has gone downhill. I ordered a sager np5791 from discount lapops which was a good 200 dollars cheaper than the hypersonic configuration. Within 25 seconds of me hitting in the finalize order button I recieved a phone call from them, now thats customer support!

I tried getting in touch with hypersonic this week but your right, they are now a complete joke. They don't answer phones or return e-mails when I wanted to discuss a possible configuration. Well too bad for them they just lost a returning customer and another 2300 dollars. I would really like to hear what excuse pat@hypersonic has up his sleeve for this nonsense.

I am sorry to hear about your loss man, I would be going apeshit all over them and suing their balls off.

Im pissed off this happened to you man, this is just ridiculous.
post #4 of 14
I am not sure of the specifics of what happened with brybishop's situation is, but I do know that we are currently working on a resolution.

OCZ is committed to customer satisfaction, and so we are doing what we can to increase our end users experience.

As many of you know, I have always done what I can to help everyone here on the forums with what I can. ToNyOnIzer, my job is not really to come up with excuses. My job is to make sure that there is an open line of communication between you, the end user, and Hypersonic / OCZ.
post #5 of 14
Thread Starter 
There just really seems to be some evidence of a total breakdown in Hypersonic's history somewhere and I would be interested in hearing what exactly happened. What seems to have been a once respected company in a fledgling market, now has evidently lost all control. Did the respect that Hypersonic built backfire? Are the orders coming in faster than they can be built? Is customer service just completely overloaded? Is that why they were sold? Was it a choice between buyout and bankrupcy?
Why it would feel so good to just flame Hypersonic endlessly, it just seems a waste. What once might have been a respectable company, is now its antithesis. Pat, fire control is unessesary when the building lies in ashes already. I think the only thing you could do to help in any way is change the name of the company. I see that in the near future.
Thanks for all the words of sentiment. I will let everyone know how OCZs commitment to customer satisfaction and end user experience plays out.
post #6 of 14
well it also seem Gateway has just been sold and is now #3 behind Dell and HP.....even Gateway now has some nice looking systems.....my first computer was a Gatway...I have nothiong but good things to say about them from that purchase....I left Gatway and went to Dell only because Gateway didnt offer the specs I was looking for at the time......stayed with Dell for a long time...them wam..all of a sudden they went to pot....my nexy builder..Hypersonic.....we know what happened there..Toshiba is my cuurent choice for laptops....I like to be loyal customer and stay with one company and build a good relationship..I had that with both Gateway and Dell.....Dell screwed up in 2004 when they were going through problems....but those problems extended into my purchase and like Hyper..their tech support went down hill and so did customer support...so Dell also lost me as a customer......so I am realy doing some research for my upcoming laptop purchase...so far its between Gateway..Toshiba...and God forbid...I am acualy looking at HP....but for me to choose HP they will have to build my system with no HP crap installed...just the OS...and drivers.....no other software...but my next purchase will not be untill after febuary when I get my profit sharring bonus from work.....should be enough to get a high end laptop and enough to build my own high end desktop..I usualy buy a new laptop every 5 years and build a desktop every 2-3 years..the great thing about building your own is lots of hardware can be used in the new build from your older build....Sound card..spkrs...lan....wireless...ect...even the case unless you see a new style that you realy want
post #7 of 14
Thread Starter 
For those of you holding your breath for the happy ending here, there is no air coming your way.

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Originally Posted by Pat@Hypersonic View Post
I am not sure of the specifics of what happened with brybishop's situation is, but I do know that we are currently working on a resolution.
I'll tell you what the specifics are. After receiving a notice from my attorney, Hypersonic sent one more email asking me if I would like for them to fix my computer, making no reference to any legal correspondence, waited two months and then shipped my computer back to my permanent address in the US without notifying me. What is the problem with this you ask? I am still deployed in IRAQ. I do not live in the US at the address they sent my computer to. This was the address they had on record from ONE YEAR prior, when I made my order. I ordered this computer 12 months and 2 weeks ago nearly to the day, had it in my possession for about 4 of those months, nearly the whole time trying to ship it back because it was defective.

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Originally Posted by Pat@Hypersonic View Post
OCZ is committed to customer satisfaction, and so we are doing what we can to increase our end users experience.
From the above, you can conclude OCZ's definition of two things; commitment, and customer satisfaction. I assure you that both leave something to be desired. OCZ shipped my computer to an old address without telling me, and then moved their offices across the country and replaced their personnel. A very efficient solution to the problem to be sure, but as for increasing their end user experience? It has been more than a year since I purchased my system, I have more legal fees, I am still in Iraq with no computer, and now Hypersonic no longer sells or supports my system. This computer doesn't even support DX 10 or Vista! A $4k gaming laptop that is obsolete. That's one heck of an end user experience. Stay tuned for what I am sure is more rhetoric about quality of service, and consumer dedication.
post #8 of 14
I feel your pain. I too may be soon seeking legal representation as I have had nothing but grief from my EX7. It has broken down 4 times on me and it takes many weeks for a repair to be made. Talk about a lemon.
post #9 of 14
glad i went another route with powernotebooks when i bought my 8790, back in the day when we still wore onions on our belts. because of their attention to my satisfaction, three of my friends now own computers purchased from them as well.

good luck and i hope that you get a fair settlement; what the hell else are you supposed to do with your freetime there........make a quilt while waiting for customer service?
post #10 of 14
Pretty much. My laptop was slated to be shipped wednesday of last week and I have yet t recieve contact or a shipping number. And you'd think after making you wait so long they might even throw some extra money down to 2 day express ship it. I'm sure it's UPS ground (it's like shipping it to greenland, then china, then south africa before shipping it to my address), and I can't wait to find my laptop all mangled up again. Oh and they had the nerve to stiff me $100 for a new power adaptor.
post #11 of 14
Chode:

I want to look into the order. I just sent you a PM. Write back when you get a chance.
post #12 of 14
One thing you have to realize is OCZ is a large corperation and bought Hypersonic with looking only at the numbers and the numbers probably looked good....the problem dont lie with OCZ..it is still with Hypoersonic...I would bet the same people are running things in New york now that have been for years prior to the sales to OCZ...untill OCZ see's something in the numers from Hypersonic it does not like they probably wont do a thing about the way Hypersonic is run today...I have sent OCZ another e-0mail today explaing the problems I have had and the problems others have had and are still having today..I gave them links to this site and re-sellers...I explained to them that if something aint done in the very near future those numbers they saw when they bought Hypersonic will probably change and not in their favor..I suggested they fold up shop in New York and seek someplace else where the cost of living is alot lower and quality of life is great...that way they can attract good workers and even pay them less money...I did suggest they look at the area I live in....no crime...no traffic...well location to many major cities...very close to the Hub of the south Atllanta (which also now attracts many global bussiness to it. I even would like to sit down and talk with them..I have owned a sucessfull business in my life back in the mid to late 80's and I believe I could fix the mess they are in......but first it would take dumping all but maybe a few (very few) current employes's and they would have to relocate to the Georgia Mountain or Atlanta....
Right now word of mouth is killing Hypersonic...they need to do something fast or like I have said the boat will sink

I would suggest yall also e-mail or contact them about problems you are having or have had with Hypoersonic

Public Relations
pr@ocztechnology.com


Marketing Department
marketing@ocztechnology.com

California Sales Office
860 E. Arques Ave.,
Sunnyvale, CA 94085 USA

(408) 733-8400 Phone
(408) 733-5200 Fax

Sales Team
(408) 733-8400Phone
(408) 331-0457 Fax
sales@ocztechnology.com

Canada Sales Office
160 Konrad Cres., Unit #1, Markham, Ontario, L3R 9T9

(905) 479-7976 Phone
(905) 479-8551 Fax

Sales Team
(905) 479-7976
canadasales@ocztechnology.com

Europe Sales Office
Kleveringweg 23
2616 LZ Delft, The Netherlands

+31 (0) 15 219.10.30 Phone
+31 (0) 15 213.67.85 Fax

Sales Team
+31 (0) 15 219.10.30
oczeuro@ocztechnology.com


they have their own board also
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/
post #13 of 14
You forgot to add me to that post!

OCZ acquired Hypersonic late last year. There are no longer any offices in NY. Hypersonic PC is currently based in California.

I have remained on with Hypersonic in the arena of customer service as well as forum support. When I am able to lend a hand, it is usually in the form of a PM. If there is something that I can do from my end to speed up an order, give status, or answer a question regarding components, I do so.

Hypersonic / OCZ is committed to customer satisfaction. There have obviously been changes not only to staff, but with our facilities as well.

I can not comment on all of the issues that have been posted in this thread, but I can say that we are doing our best to ensure that certain issues do not reoccur.

We are fully aware of our reseller ratings as well as the posts in these forums.

The road ahead will not be without its ups and downs, but there is certainly a bright future ahead for Hypersonic and OCZ.
post #14 of 14
I would just like to point out that Pat has been extremely helpful in resolving my hypersonic issues. My machine is now running smoothly. I think we are at the turning point here, and Hypersonic will be better than ever.
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