Switching to macs

Just a stereotype going way back in the day. A mac is just another computer...works like just another computer.

I think this is more of a comparison of Safari to IE than anything...and even then IE is the more messed up of the 2, but then again some websites (say online banking, or dell tech support) is only set up for use with IE for "security reasons" . Personally I can't stand Safari, but you can always install Firefox or Opera on your mac.

You just go to your local apple store and yell at them. Seems like a straight forward process. Yes, sometimes their "genius bar" is full of dumb asses, but then again what tech support isn't?


This is mostly true yes. The 12" macbook is still pretty well competitively priced, but any of the higher end models are way too expensive than an equally configured PC.


Isn't anything you never used before require learning? First week or so its not gonna be a cakewalk figuring it out...yes there is a learning curve, but once you clear the first hurdle you will be fine. We are talking about Mac OS of course, since the hardware is basically the same regardless of where it comes from. OS is just a matter of preference. Some people like Win, some like Mac....I find both to be overly complicated so I use linux.

very true of the first generation of the white g3 ibooks...those things couldn't stay in working order for the life of them. The newer models are fairly good when it comes to build quality. Probably not the best there is, but better than industry average.

I agree with all ABF said

Macs have always been used for video and sound editing mainly because of the stability. They also have versions of popular PC programs such as office, games and productivity applications.

Safari is quite buggy and I've never liked it because of that. Simply install Opera and Firefox on it and you're good to go. Some shitty sites with some lazy programmers can only program sites for IE.

Go to any authorized Apple store, they'll take it and fix it, like any other computer store.

The 12" Macbooks are quite competitively priced, also Apples only have what can be called the best components you can find. Apple doesn't cut corners with hardware thus, it may seem more expensive from the PC point of view.

I never used a Mac before when I started using them, took me only about 15 minutes to figure how to use it. Some users may take an hour to get used to and the learning curve is about a week the longest to learn it all. There's this thing called tutorials, manuals and help files that come with it to make it easier.

It still bugs me how many 1337 h4x0rs out there spend hours, days and months fixing, hacking, building, optimizing and learning the inner works of their Windows and Linux installs but are quick to dismiss and flame OSX, qualify it as a sucky and non viable OS saying they can't figure it out in the first five minutes of use. They're quick to go back and spend hour after hour taking Linux and Windows apart though.

That Darwin console in OSX eludes them somehow as well.

Happens here and there, the first G3 iBooks and some desktop models came out with some problems. My sister's first generation G3 iBook broke until now and found a motherboard for about $30 to replace it. My Power Mac 6500/300 I used for video editing and sound editing back when it was new is still going strong and never had a problem. I dust it off every now and then to rescue old material.

Note: I have used and owned both Macs and PCs and have had no problems in using either or getting them to work together. I still have access to an eMac which my dad uses to work, and recently sold my iBook G4. I build my own desktop PCs so don't tell me I'm pulling for either side or that I don't know what I'm talking about.

QFTMFT on what both posters answered

ill add to the internet websites tho

its the same as using Mozilla, youll run into a site that cand load it because you have to use IE7 or somthing of that tune

to me though, i shy away from them, not only are they a red light to a theif that may see a chance to steal it

but they are costly, ABF is right about the 12 inchers, they are right at about where they need to be, maybe a bit less would be better

but anything above that is just ungodly

pc's are always upgradeable, i believe even now you still have to use mac only ram? or with the new intel platform you can use any kind?


basicly take it this way, those gay comericals with the trendy emo fag and the old tubby balding dude..........everything you hear in those comericals is lies



edit: now dont get me wrong, if i found a sub 250 dollar mac mini, id buy it just to learn the mac OS and see what its about, but dam spending over 1,000 dollars on a risky venture youre unsure of the outcome


soulsaver

blackdog, it breaks down to this: macbooks now use the same components as pc notebooks, proven by the fact that you can run windows natively. only their bios is modified with an efi layer to retain exclusive use of apple's platform, os x. macs are built more reliably and use top of the line parts and much of their success rests on these two promises so you will receive good service in the possible occasion that you need it. as far as the macbook pro, the price seems high, but the combination of led screen, high end santa rosa chip and nvidia 8600gt videocard is the best that you will find on the market in a 15" package. price doesn't seem so unreasonable when you factor in all of this and the inclusion of leopard and software packages. if leopard was to cost as much as vistas and apple were to sell laptops sans os (bare, not just with an older version requiring an upgrade), other laptops of equal build would seem expensive by comparison.

if you need more information or advice, there have been dozens of threads on this topic already. also try the apple subforum. and ignore the post above this one; inaccurate, bigoted, and irrelevant. these forums need a post ranking system like at digg to reduce clutter of false and extraneous info from postcount whores.

Macs don't use BIOS, period. EFI is a BIOS replacement from Intel which will, hopefully, start showing up in regular PCs in the next few years. It doesn't have anything to do with keeping OS X exclusively to Macs. That's all verified by the OS itself and the TPM chip on the motherboard—something regular PCs are starting to include now as well.

so then are you saying there are some models of pc that can install and run leopard at the moment from a nonhacked installation disc? hmmm, interesting. linky please.

as far as I know, efi and probably the tpm chip (pretty sure darwin lists it with detection at bootup) were big criteria on the hardware end for the osx86 project. regarding other components, the apple disc actually contains drivers for many more brands and models than apple uses.

Um, no.

EFI and/or TPM!=OS X being able to run on a PC. Apple is using their own version of EFI just like Award and Phoenix and whatnot have their own versions of BIOS. And the TPM chips have to have some kind of registration in them to let OS X know they're Apple chips.

And while the disk may contain drivers for non Apple hardware the list is quite small compared to how much hardware is actually out there.

The fact that 0 yes 0 viruses is avalible for Mac Osx at this time should be emphasised more. The older version of mac can get viruses but not the new ones.

As for breaking done ive had 4 macs through the last 10 years not one has had problems and the first one still works perfectly!

actually as of just a few weeks ago there was a osx trojan @ large. i am not saying osx is not secure, it is really secure but still...just correcting the inaccuracy of your statement artweek

If you're into video editing, creating your own music, and the whole nine yard, Apple has some really nice software that comes with the mac.

dont do it.

A trojan isn't a virus.

And unless you have some solid information to give regarding why or why not a person should buy a Mac, please refrain from posting in threads where a person has asked for advice.

Aren't those supposed to protect you against viruses and other stuff?


* runs *

/me kicks moidock in the shins.

if buying a computer because of it "not being able to .exe a virus" then you really arent that heavy of a computer/mac user

there are tea timers, there are always running background virus scanners, spyware, malware

saying a mac is good cause no virus's sells macs because of americans and alike being super effin lazy and unwilling to learn about computers

god forbid you do homework and learn about them and ways to prevent them




fake edit: can a mac prevent idenity theft? oh znap wow it stops vir0z OMG I NEED A MAC NOW!!!

real edit: mac's have little to no virus's cause who would really wanna hack or bother with mac's? are websites, internet, servers running on a mac platform??

so unless you wanna hax40rz the trendy ho's who dont pay you any mind on myspace's n00dz, its pointless.......its not even a good selling point unless you have zero (like the same ammount of virus's) common sense


soulsaver