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post #41 of 60
12/14/07 at 3:29am
Keyboard and mouse? I loves the G11s and G5s.

PSU? Way late...but has pdonket ever owned an OCZ/PCP&C Silencer 750?

Go for the 750 darthmorgoth for just $30.00 more than the 610...don't scrimp on the PSU or mobo.



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post #42 of 60
12/14/07 at 8:42am
Not saying I have owned the PC P&C 750, I'm just saying that to get the same amount of air pushed, naturally the 90mm fans have to rotate faster causing more noise. So I was just playing connect the dots rather than actually having experience
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post #43 of 60
12/14/07 at 9:24am
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Originally Posted by darthmorgoth View Post
the reviews on the egg site were kinda cold fish.........i might add it for filler if i am below budget.

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor $279........right now, this looks like the processor that i would get today. there are several variations that are basically klingon to me......i suppose that the extremes might drop in price a little, but at around $900, i can't see a major drop when that perynyn comes out.
1. Q6600 is a great chip. If I were buying today, it's what I'd get.

2. Extremes never drop that much in price. They usually stay w/in 30% of initial release price.

3. Stay away from the 680i. If you want SLI, wait for 780i (later this month-early January). If you want X-Fire, get X38 or X48. This is the main decision I am trying to make, but just not enought info out yet on newer motherboards. If I had to buy today, ASUS Maximus Formula X38. ASUS finally has a decent BIOS for this board. And I may still end up getting this board.

4. There are several versions of the Yorkfield (Penryn Quad) coming out that are the non-extreme versions. They are:

Model Freq L2-Cache FSB Multi TDP Soc Price
C2Quad
Q9300 2500MHz 2x3072 1333 7.5x 95w 775 $266

C2Quad
Q9450 2667MHz 2x6144 1333 8x 95w 775 $316 MY NEW CHIP

C2Quad
Q9550 2833MHz 2x6144 1333 8.5x 95w 775 $530

5. And video cards. Trust me, I am not a fan of either ATI or NVidia. Why? I have WAY too much to say about that... I will say that they BOTH have good cards now, and they both will have a 2xCore card in January. New cards for both out in Feb. Right now, 2 HD3870s ($460) are better in X-Fire than 2 G92 8800GTs in SLI ($600), better than the 8800GTS ($470), and on par with both GTX and Ultra versions ($500-$700). But this is the extreme end.
My advice...wait until new cards come out in January-February.
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post #44 of 60
12/14/07 at 4:42pm
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1. Q6600 is a great chip. If I were buying today, it's what I'd get.

2. Extremes never drop that much in price. They usually stay w/in 30% of initial release price.

3. Stay away from the 680i. If you want SLI, wait for 780i (later this month-early January). If you want X-Fire, get X38 or X48. This is the main decision I am trying to make, but just not enought info out yet on newer motherboards. If I had to buy today, ASUS Maximus Formula X38. ASUS finally has a decent BIOS for this board. And I may still end up getting this board.

4. There are several versions of the Yorkfield (Penryn Quad) coming out that are the non-extreme versions. They are:

Model Freq L2-Cache FSB Multi TDP Soc Price
C2Quad
Q9300 2500MHz 2x3072 1333 7.5x 95w 775 $266

C2Quad
Q9450 2667MHz 2x6144 1333 8x 95w 775 $316 MY NEW CHIP

C2Quad
Q9550 2833MHz 2x6144 1333 8.5x 95w 775 $530

5. And video cards. Trust me, I am not a fan of either ATI or NVidia. Why? I have WAY too much to say about that... I will say that they BOTH have good cards now, and they both will have a 2xCore card in January. New cards for both out in Feb. Right now, 2 HD3870s ($460) are better in X-Fire than 2 G92 8800GTs in SLI ($600), better than the 8800GTS ($470), and on par with both GTX and Ultra versions ($500-$700). But this is the extreme end.
My advice...wait until new cards come out in January-February.
Love the ---->
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post #45 of 60
12/15/07 at 6:34am
For 2k dollars, you can get one helluva desktop computer. That's for sure, planning now is a good idea, but you need to think about what you want.

In Feburary, there will be a lot of new technology out. You can get those, and it wont really help us telling you today what to get.

You could probably build a $2500 dollar computer right now, wait 2 months and that price would be much closer to your $2000 dollar mark, but.. you might not have the fastest GPU and CPU, or the best chipset out.

For the most part though, you'll be able to have the RAM, harddrive, monitor, case, power supply, drives, cooling, all ready.

Getting your motherboard, cpu and video card would probably be what you end up spending the most money on.

Come closer to February though, if I am around I'll throw together a nice setup for around $2k.

Any particular size monitor(s) you want?
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post #46 of 60
12/15/07 at 10:29pm
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In Feburary, there will be a lot of new technology out.
And in August they will be even newer technology out..
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post #47 of 60
12/15/07 at 10:33pm
Now that's funny!!!



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post #48 of 60
12/15/07 at 11:56pm
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And in August they will be even newer technology out..
The key is understanding that 2 months is very different from the 6 between feb and august.

It's dumb to go for tech that is still very expensive only 2 months before a major release on both the CPU and GPU.
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post #49 of 60
12/16/07 at 12:01am
But that 'new' stuff will be so much cheaper in Aug when it's matured atitch...whatya think?

Don't get hung up in all that, believe me will get you nowhere fast. Need a new computer? Buy the best you can afford at the time. I shall make it the Leroy rule!!!



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post #50 of 60
12/16/07 at 12:04am
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Originally Posted by pdonket View Post
The key is understanding that 2 months is very different from the 6 between feb and august.

It's dumb to go for tech that is still very expensive only 2 months before a major release on both the CPU and GPU.
Sorry I should have shown I was being sarcastic...
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post #51 of 60
12/16/07 at 1:23am
apologies since you were being sarcastic, its just that I get way too many "well there's new technology in X months" that I just react regularly like that
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post #52 of 60
12/16/07 at 1:26am
10 months?



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post #53 of 60
12/16/07 at 1:53am
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10 months?



Zoid
Yeah, I only talk to people in roman numerals
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post #54 of 60
12/16/07 at 3:18am
isn't moore's law in roman?
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post #55 of 60
12/16/07 at 7:57pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Skillz View Post
For 2k dollars, you can get one helluva desktop computer. That's for sure, planning now is a good idea, but you need to think about what you want.

In Feburary, there will be a lot of new technology out. You can get those, and it wont really help us telling you today what to get.

You could probably build a $2500 dollar computer right now, wait 2 months and that price would be much closer to your $2000 dollar mark, but.. you might not have the fastest GPU and CPU, or the best chipset out.

For the most part though, you'll be able to have the RAM, harddrive, monitor, case, power supply, drives, cooling, all ready.

Getting your motherboard, cpu and video card would probably be what you end up spending the most money on.

Come closer to February though, if I am around I'll throw together a nice setup for around $2k.

Any particular size monitor(s) you want?
i am excited about the low prices of the 22" monitors at this time, $230 seems to be the standard, i was initially thinking that 19 inchers were still over 300 bucks......ive been into my laptop for the last few years, a sager 8790.

this thread has really boosted my knowledge of the technology that is currently around for building a desktop; my wife says that once i get excited about these kinds of things, i dont give up till i get what i want.......i'm a big man baby i guess. i configured and researched my 8790 for 4 months before i was able to get back to the states and order it initially; looking at all the reseller and such. i would say that i am looking forward to this build with way more enthusiasm.
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post #56 of 60
12/16/07 at 8:25pm
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Originally Posted by darthmorgoth View Post
i am excited about the low prices of the 22" monitors at this time, $230 seems to be the standard, i was initially thinking that 19 inchers were still over 300 bucks......ive been into my laptop for the last few years, a sager 8790.

this thread has really boosted my knowledge of the technology that is currently around for building a desktop; my wife says that once i get excited about these kinds of things, i dont give up till i get what i want.......i'm a big man baby i guess. i configured and researched my 8790 for 4 months before i was able to get back to the states and order it initially; looking at all the reseller and such. i would say that i am looking forward to this build with way more enthusiasm.
I get the same way although I must say, with the upcoming build I'll be doing on the horizon, for some reason my enthusiasm isn't as high as usual
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post #57 of 60
12/16/07 at 10:06pm
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I get the same way although I must say, with the upcoming build I'll be doing on the horizon, for some reason my enthusiasm isn't as high as usual
You must be getting older.

I can say that, because I have been there.
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post #58 of 60
12/16/07 at 11:20pm
Oh damn my childhood is running away
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post #59 of 60
1/8/08 at 5:10pm
Thread Starter 
edited..... so by the time i leave, i will probably be looking at the nvidia 9800 series cards and the 780i's will have been out for a few months.




just got notified that i am staying for an "extended season"; station will close as normal in mid feb, but the wife and i will along with 100+ others are to fly out of mcturdo on april 17th......unless something happens to the budget; funny that this is the "international polar year" and we are the only signatory nation to be cutting money from antarctic scientific research.

i am anxious to build my computer, but this way i will have an easier time spending the cash on robust components.
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post #60 of 60
1/8/08 at 6:13pm
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Originally Posted by darthmorgoth View Post
edited..... so by the time i leave, i will probably be looking at the nvidia 9800 series cards and the 780i's will have been out for a few months.




just got notified that i am staying for an "extended season"; station will close as normal in mid feb, but the wife and i will along with 100+ others are to fly out of mcturdo on april 17th......unless something happens to the budget; funny that this is the "international polar year" and we are the only signatory nation to be cutting money from antarctic scientific research.

i am anxious to build my computer, but this way i will have an easier time spending the cash on robust components.
Good luck brother
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