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post #61 of 84
4/2/08 at 9:08pm
Nice to hear will try those clocks myself and see if it is stable in gaming etc. Couldn´t hurt, these GPU´s are great overclockers.
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post #62 of 84
5/13/08 at 11:53am

added fx 3600, with my current overclock

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post #63 of 84
5/13/08 at 1:42pm
Thread Starter 
Much thanks ZX, I'll post it later on tonight
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post #64 of 84
7/22/08 at 12:03pm
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Originally Posted by ZX81 View Post
added fx 3600, with my current overclock
Someone knows if the FX 3600M is equivalent to a 8800M GTS or GTX ? Dell says that this card is the same as 8800M GTX, but GPU-Z shows only 64 unified shaders (the only one difference between the GTS and GTX). There is possible the GPU-Z is showing wrong information?

I run GRID on my Precision M6300 at 1920x1200 (high settings) without slowdowns. I will run some tests and compare the results to the Geforce equivalent cards.
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post #65 of 84
7/22/08 at 7:06pm
Thread Starter 
Look on the first page of this thread and scroll to the bottom, you'll see the comparisons
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post #66 of 84
7/23/08 at 8:48pm

Crossfire





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post #67 of 84
7/27/08 at 3:12am
In case these were not posted earlier (mobile GPUs at the bottom):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...ocessing_Units
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...ocessing_Units

Looks like a good list
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post #68 of 84
12/9/08 at 8:50pm
Here is mine:

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post #69 of 84
12/9/08 at 11:03pm
Here is my newest.

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post #70 of 84
1/9/09 at 4:10am
Since we're all doing this :P

Here's my max (stable with my new setup...barely.)


And my lowest :P (I've gotten it to 76mhz core, but it scitzed out and rebooted all the time)



With my setup Core temp is usually 38C in a 19C environment
WOOT!

And yes...my drivers will be updated one day.
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post #71 of 84
12/17/09 at 5:54am
sooo. Is there no limitation on plugging newer card into the e1705? As long as im willing to do some physical modding to make it fit?

Just need to know if the chip/sockets match fir the newer mobile cards coming out.
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post #72 of 84
12/17/09 at 10:54am
e1705 will only take (I believe):
x1400
6800go/ultra (some features may not work)
7800go
7800gtx (some features may not work)
7900gs
7900gtx
7950gtx
fx1500
fx2500
fx3500
possible fx1600
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post #73 of 84
12/17/09 at 12:30pm
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Originally Posted by atwood7fan View Post
e1705 will only take (I believe):
x1400
6800go/ultra (some features may not work)
7800go
7800gtx (some features may not work)
7900gs
7900gtx
7950gtx
fx1500
fx2500
fx3500
possible fx1600
Anybody with experience know exactly what is the limiting factor of not being able to upgrade the card with some 8x00 cards?
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post #74 of 84
12/17/09 at 2:53pm
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Originally Posted by buckiller View Post
Anybody with experience know exactly what is the limiting factor of not being able to upgrade the card with some 8x00 cards?
no BIOS support. The fx3600M (which I think is equal to the 8800M GTX) has the same form factor but will not work because the bios does not support it.
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post #75 of 84
12/17/09 at 5:08pm
Interesting... Im not TOO familiar with BIOS but I do know a decent amount about low level C programming (embedded stuff, ISRs, OS etc) I always thought of BIOS as just doing the bootstrapping and hardware signals. I always thought these kind of limitations lied in chipsets supporting certain things like specific CPU architectures etc...

Like for my desktop PC, I can pop in any PCI/PCIE card and the BIOS will load the firmware of the card or setup the IRQ.

I guess laptop PCs are different like this? Or maybe its the mobile GPU interface that is different?

Has any work been done here to fix these dillema? Like flashing another, newer BIOS from a PC with the same chipset? Or modding the BIOS? Once again, I don't know too much about BIOS programming.
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post #76 of 84
12/17/09 at 5:15pm
I think this has been tried before with no success, there was a pretty lengthy thread about that somewhere on this site...
here you go: http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=214624
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post #77 of 84
12/17/09 at 8:31pm

possible fx1600?

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Originally Posted by atwood7fan View Post
e1705 will only take (I believe):
x1400
6800go/ultra (some features may not work)
7800go
7800gtx (some features may not work)
7900gs
7900gtx
7950gtx
fx1500
fx2500
fx3500
possible fx1600
Can you point me to something talking about the "possible" part of the fx1600? Or explain it to me :P

Thanks. It looked like the fx1600 had no problem?

And what about the even newer cards with the A10 bios? fx1700, 2700, etc etc
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post #78 of 84
12/18/09 at 10:50pm
The newer cards won't even physically fit.

The bios is the first thing thats run on your PC. Therefore it has to know how to properly set everything up so that it works later. You can think of this as putting everything into a proper reset state. Therefore, if the bios does not know how to setup the hardware then problems are likely to arise. It may be better to understand programming languages such as verilog and vhdl to understand issues like this rather than C.

The reason the FX1600M is still listed as possible is because enough users haven't reported it as working yet.
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post #79 of 84
12/19/09 at 2:31pm

fx1600

Im thinking about jumping on a fx1600.. apparently its a common card in HPs.

I just finished a VHDL class. Basically programmed everything with behavioral. But the BIOS chips arent FPGAs, they're just memory, right? So BIOS updates are just changing the code on the chips?

I think im going to pull the trigger on the fx1600..

Edit: What about the fx1600 heatsink? Exactly the same as the other dual heatpipes? The one im buying doesnt come with a heatsink.
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post #80 of 84
12/20/09 at 9:14am
Dell doesn't WANT you to upgrade! Doesn't that make sense? It's the same with big box companies all the time mate! That's why it's only backwards compatible (typically).
The fx1600M however, DOES WORK for sure, I installed one into my friends e1705, and yes, it does work. It's not better than a 7950 gtx though. I know, for dx10 support, we were getting lower scores and higher temps than with the 7950, I think it's cause it's limited by it's 128 bus while the 7950's got the whole 256.
The 3600M even works apparently, there just isn't bios control, and it downclocks a lot, and the brightness fails for control, so it's just feasible or practical, there's a whole thread on that.

If you do decide to do any upgrading make sure you have your cooling and power requirements in order first, and the highest you can go with dx9 is a 3500fx, and dx10 1600fx.
I wish we had people that could mod the bioses for us, and force flashing isn't an option because of the damn program dell uses for flashing the bios. I have yet to find a standalone program like nvflash for dell bioses where you can just pick one to force flash.
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