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It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone familiar with Apple's history of high margins that Apple has another very profitable product in the iPod touch. According to iSuppli's latest cost analysis tear-down, Apple stands to make a profit of just under 100 percent (92.9) on its highest-tech iPod. The cost, $155.04, is a cumulative total of manufacturing, assembly, test expenses, and parts costs. It does not, however, take into account:
[...] software, intellectual property, accessories and packaging. The BOM figure also does not include research and development costs, because such data cannot be derived from a teardown and component analysis.

Component costs fluctuate, so iSuppli's estimates are accurate as of time of research (and not necessarily this very moment), but I can't imagine fluctuation would cause that much of a discrepancy right now.

As expected, the majority of the expenses involved in the creation of an iPod touch come from the cost of the flash memory (8GB $40.00), and the display ($21.99). The other big ticket item is the "Touchscreen Assembly and Integration" ($21.70). The battery is an 800mAh unit that costs a mere $2.35—something that will certainly annoy you when it comes time to replace it for $45.

iSuppli estimates that, like human and chimp DNA, the iPhone and iTouch are only 90 percent similar:
However, the iPod touch’s design differs from the iPhone in that it is uniquely optimized to meet its form-factor and cost requirements. To cut space usage, the iPod touch makes use of some advanced packaging for its components not seen in the iPhone, including 0201 diodes and passive components in 01005 enclosures on the touch’s WLAN module.

Other differences include a single PCB in the touch versus dual in the iPhone, and different WLAN components. Add these to what we already knew—the iPod touch has no Bluetooth and no microphone—and it is almost a surprise that they are only 10 percent different.

Source: Arstechnica
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Very interesting snippet GBQ..... guess the first line in your quote about sums it up really,yet another iRipoff.......I bet Jobs could sell iSteve dolls of himself for 300 each and still keep a straight face about the innovative technology that went into it......the really sad part is that they would probably sell
post #3 of 16
People pay what the economy supports.

Imagine all the other products, from companies less reported on than Apple, that have margins just as high. Hell, how many people here have Alienware laptops? We know Sony tacks on an extra 30-40 percent to anything they make just because they stamped a Sony logo on the side.
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Just because other companies suck too, doesn't make apple suck any less
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So what's wrong with Apple recouping high margins on the iPod Touch? The $100 worth of parts would be useless without all the past R&D, so is it really fair to discount this when measuring profit margins? Don't think so.

And, pricing from any for-profit company should be based on what the market will bear. If they are selling enough iPod Touch'es at the current price, then that is the "market price."

Yes, I like Apple products, but can also be objective. Of all the toys I've purchased in the last few years, the iPod Touch is definitely one of my favorites. I'd love more battery life for videos, but that is really my only complaint at this point.
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93% profit.
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Originally Posted by GBrilliantQ View Post
93% profit.

And, I say, excellent for Apple! AND great for Apple shareholders.

I do not see a moral dilemma here ... this is a totally discretionary item. It's not a life-saving drug treatment...
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I know. I wish I could make a 93% return on anything I've sold.

I don't like apple, but I do love my touch.
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Originally Posted by GBrilliantQ View Post
I know. I wish I could make a 93% return on anything I've sold.

I don't like apple, but I do love my touch.
I like their innovation, I don't like the price gouging (sp)
post #10 of 16
Price gouging is when you intentionally inflate the price of an item during a time when said item is vitally needed—ie, gas and water during a hurricane.

You can't price gouge an iPod. You can, however, set a price based on the material and manpower that went into making it and if the price is reasonable enough for the consumer it will sell.
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Price gouging is when you intentionally inflate the price of an item during a time when said item is vitally needed—ie, gas and water during a hurricane.

You can't price gouge an iPod. You can, however, set a price based on the material and manpower that went into making it and if the price is reasonable enough for the consumer it will sell.
It doesn't have to be vitally needed, only when it seems unfair.

As in people selling wii's for 400 dollars without any controllers or games, because it's the Hot item this year.

heres an interesting site

http://gouging.blogspot.com/2007/10/...ging-data.html
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Originally Posted by GBrilliantQ View Post
I know. I wish I could make a 93% return on anything I've sold.

I don't like apple, but I do love my touch.
What don't you like about apple GBQ ,just the pricing?

Since you still buy their products,is there a reason you didn't buy an iPhone over your windows mobile device? price again? carrier?

Serious questions,I'd like to know,most people on the internet don't like apple for reasons of "apple sucks" or some such dribble,but you own apple products and yet,say you don't like them as a company?
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Originally Posted by GBrilliantQ View Post
It doesn't have to be vitally needed, only when it seems unfair.

As in people selling wii's for 400 dollars without any controllers or games, because it's the Hot item this year.

heres an interesting site

http://gouging.blogspot.com/2007/10/...ging-data.html
Again, that's still not gouging. The price differential may be unfair in light of the latest exchange rates, however, it's not exponentially unfair. People in Canadia are still buying Macs. They may grumble about the price but if the price really was such an issue they'd be buying Dells.

As for people selling Wiis for huge amounts of money...that's not gouging either. That's just stupidity in this day of, pardon the reference, "gotta catch 'em all" consumerism.

People think they need a Wii or XBox or Playstation so badly that they're willing to pay a small fortune for it. It almost makes me want to queue up like an idiot a day before a new product is released so I can buy a couple and sell them for several times their price myself.

To reiterate: there's absolutely nothing wrong with charging any price the market will bear for things such as iPods and Wiis—or even water or gasoline during normal times—but charging exorbitant amounts of money for things like water and gas during disasters is wrong and is price gouging.

And speaking of buying water...if you really want to complain about price margins complain about the bottled water companies. They make upwards of 2000 percent profit on each bottle of water they sell.
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Originally Posted by gerryjoson View Post
What don't you like about apple GBQ ,just the pricing?

Since you still buy their products,is there a reason you didn't buy an iPhone over your windows mobile device? price again? carrier?

Serious questions,I'd like to know,most people on the internet don't like apple for reasons of "apple sucks" or some such dribble,but you own apple products and yet,say you don't like them as a company?
i like wm6 better.
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Originally Posted by Kakaze View Post
Again, that's still not gouging. The price differential may be unfair in light of the latest exchange rates, however, it's not exponentially unfair. People in Canadia are still buying Macs. They may grumble about the price but if the price really was such an issue they'd be buying Dells.

As for people selling Wiis for huge amounts of money...that's not gouging either. That's just stupidity in this day of, pardon the reference, "gotta catch 'em all" consumerism.

People think they need a Wii or XBox or Playstation so badly that they're willing to pay a small fortune for it. It almost makes me want to queue up like an idiot a day before a new product is released so I can buy a couple and sell them for several times their price myself.

To reiterate: there's absolutely nothing wrong with charging any price the market will bear for things such as iPods and Wiis—or even water or gasoline during normal times—but charging exorbitant amounts of money for things like water and gas during disasters is wrong and is price gouging.

And speaking of buying water...if you really want to complain about price margins complain about the bottled water companies. They make upwards of 2000 percent profit on each bottle of water they sell.

I know you love apple, I just posted the news. I thought it was interesting and didn't know my touch only costed apple 150 something dollars...
post #16 of 16
It's not that I love Apple—I personally don't care much for the company—it's that Apple gets called out and vilified for doing the same things every other company does that no one ever complains about.
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