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780i Motherboard Comparison - Do your research!

post #1 of 29
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So you're in the market for a new super gaming motherboard. You've researched motherboard manufacturer sites, E-tailers, several discussion forums, and foreign sites...until your eyes are bleeding and your skull feels like it’s been stuck on one of those automatic egg-scrambler thingys.

You've FINALLY decided what you want - a board that is compatible with Intel's latest and greatest Penryn 45nm CPUs, DDR2 memory because that DDR3 stuff is way to hard to swallow, and can also sport a couple of those groovy G92-based Nvidia graphics cards in SLI. NForce 780i, here I come!

But wait. What about all of that other stuff I want to use in my new uBer gaming rig. A PCI sound card is a must, along with that hardware RAID controller I’ve been eyeing.

Ahhh – we finally get to the real purpose of this thread. Make sure you do your research! Not all boards are created equal in 780i land.

These new 780i motherboards can support up to three graphics cards in what Nvidia calls TRI-SLI. That’s a full three slots of PCI Express x16 connectivity and three-way SLI, leaving little (if any) room for all of that other stuff I wanted to use.

Edit: For clarification, the PCIe 2.0 slots are the upper and lower-most slots in these boards. Dual-SLI uses the uses these two slots.
TRI-SLI uses all three PCIe slots, with the middle slot only being PCIe 1.0.

This is where pictures become your best friend.


First, a reference 3-way SLI pic:




Now, take a gander at the motherboards below; you can see that both the EVGA and XFX boards appear identical. Well, they are. They are both manufactured by Foxconn. Notice there are 2 PCI and 1 PCIe 1x slots…

EVGA:




XFX:




The lower PCI and 1x slots are NOT available if you run two cards in SLI - and you HAVE to use the upper PCIe x16 slot, always. Fortunately, one of the PCI slots is in the center of the board for a sound card.

For you guys that want to 3-way sli, all of the slots are covered with stock coolers. There are some aftermarket single-slot coolers available that may, or may not open up one of the slots.

There are also flexible PCI extenders/risers available, depending on your hardware requirements.

The EVGA and XFX boards are set up pretty good compared to some of the other boards that are either already released or on the way.


This is a shot of ASUS' P5NT-Deluxe:



Only 1 PCI slot on the P5NT-Deluxe...

And now, the mack daddy ASUS PWNage Striker II Formula. Expect to sell your organs and first-born in order to afford this thing when it comes out...



It's set up similarly to the EVGA and XFX 780i reference boards.

The bottom line - Make sure you look at these boards carefully. Verify all of the components you want in your new rig will be compatible.

Buck
post #2 of 29
For all the 680i owners, you can run 3-way sli as well. Now that they are offering the 3-way sli bridge.

If anyone that already owns a 680i and does not want or need 45nm quad's I'd stick with your 680i. There isn't a reason to switch to 780i.

I've been seriously thinking about the 790i, I might end up coughing up the extra for DDR3. Kick it up a notch.

A nice guide Buck.
post #3 of 29
Thread Starter 
Thanks. I figured I'd throw something together while doing mobo research for my new machine. I was originally going with the ASUS P5NT until I saw pics - hence the reason for this thread. I hope it will help those in the same position we're in.

There are bound to be huge advantages to using DDR3 with the 790i. I decided to go with DDR2 because of 1) price and 2) Nehalem. I just couldn't see dropping an extra $550 to $600 into socket 775 when I already know I'll do Nehalem a few months after release.

That will give me around 15 months from the time I complete this rig until the Nehalem upgrade. The extra $600, in my particular scenario, just doesn't seem to be worth it over that period of time.

All things considered, I will most likely pick up the EVGA 780i board. I want the Striker II, but I am seeing release dates in January and February and release prices in the $330 range. If they sell as quickly as the EVGA boards, I can see prices go up to the $360+ range (the EVGA board went up to $339 a the Egg - I call bull$hit).

I can finish this up pretty quick. I have an E6750 to throw in until the Penryns come out. Still pondering GPUs though. There is always something.
post #4 of 29
Does the Striker II have the LCD readout and backlights like the Striker?
post #5 of 29
Thread Starter 
I know it has the LCD, not sure about the backlights. There aren't many pictures available, but the specs can be found on several sites.
post #6 of 29
awesome Buck!

stickied!

This is the kind of info Im gonna need in Jan. GB, how excited are you to build your new rig?
post #7 of 29
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Originally Posted by Steve@NBF View Post
awesome Buck!

stickied!

This is the kind of info Im gonna need in Jan. GB, how excited are you to build your new rig?
About as exicted as you watching your pats go perfect.

No seriously, I've been building this thing for four months now. The 27th-28th, I should be making a rather large purchase. Hopefully the only thing I'll need after, is my nvidia 9800+ and my Q9450.

And Buck, congrats on the sticky.
post #8 of 29
I'm sticking out of the DDR3 as well, buying now is just making a pointless investment IMO. They'll probably be cheaper next year with nehalem and actually worth it if ever. Right now the timings take out the advantage of speed + the cost is absolutely not worth it.
post #9 of 29
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If it can prevent just one person from RMAing a board due to hardware incompatibility, it was worthwhile. Time is money in my world.

As far as DDR3 is concerned - to each his/her own. It all depends on what you want right now. In my case, the negligible returns over such a short period of time didn't make it an attractive purchase.
post #10 of 29
You are a little misinformed about this board. There are only 2 PCI-E 2.0 slots (IE 1st and 3rd slots.) The 2nd slot is only PCI-E 1.0

To run 2 cards in SLI mode, you use the 1st and 3rd slots. The middle PCI slot will be open even if you use the ASUS P5NT-Deluxe board.
post #11 of 29
interesting.
post #12 of 29
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaxar View Post
You are a little misinformed about this board. There are only 2 PCI-E 2.0 slots (IE 1st and 3rd slots.) The 2nd slot is only PCI-E 1.0

To run 2 cards in SLI mode, you use the 1st and 3rd slots. The middle PCI slot will be open even if you use the ASUS P5NT-Deluxe board.
You're absolutely right - op edited. I was originally posting based on my extensive search for a decent 780i board that will support the hardware I wanted. I only later learned that dual-SLI utilizes upper/lower PCIe slots, and simply forgot to edit this post.
post #13 of 29
One thing I don't like about the EVGA and XFX board is that they don't use solid state capacitors throughout. Look at the area around the processor. Now look around the rest of the boards, leaky electrolytic capacitors. The ASUS boards use solid state throughout.

On the ASUS boards, the metal cans with the red bands on them. Look at the same places on the other 2 boards. Around the processor you see the metal cans. In the other places, you see the metal cans that are covered with insulating material (most are black, some are blue.)

They should be consistent when building their boards instead of using cheaper parts in places.
post #14 of 29
Oh yea, and the northbridge cooling fan......

It's a heater for the first video card.

NOT GOOD when you're trying to keep it cool
post #15 of 29
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On the topic of solid state capacitors, the Striker II is loaded - and the initial release price looks to be around $280....I just hope that holds true.

And from what I've read, the NB fan on the reference boards is LOUD.
post #16 of 29
http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/departme...lterValue=Asus

Asus Striker II Formula nForce 780i 3Way SLI (Socket 775) DDR2 ATX Motherboard
Product Code: 608469 Manf. Model: STRIKER II FORMULA
£189.95 £223.19 Out of stock: Pre-Release

That's $377 US

I wouldn't bet on it

Other places list from 228-284 Euro ($333-412)
post #17 of 29
Anything ROG is going to be overpriced, but everyone will eat them up. Like the overpriced evga 780i around newegg. I watched that thing climb from $279 to $339, but thats the bussiness.

I'm going to be looking at the Maximus formula, the Evga 780i or the Striker II.
post #18 of 29
You can't beat EVGA's lifetime warranty and their step-up program. If you purchased a 680i, register your board and upload the invoice/receipt, you're eligible to purchase the 780i for $90.

Their site still lists it for $259.99. Unfortunately , it's out of stock

http://www.evga.com/products/moreInf...132-CK-NF78-A1
post #19 of 29
Oh I know, I love my evga gpu's. They are the best in the business concerning customer service.
post #20 of 29
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The price should be on the lower end of those quotes - and I agree that $280 is way low - just can't remember where I read it....

I'm still deciding between the Striker II and EVGA boards. If I don't pick up the EVGA mobo, I'll definitely get GPUs from them.
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