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post #61 of 79
1/20/08 at 6:42pm
Hmm for the record, if you just want ti disable layman for a period of time, remove the reference to its make.conf in your system wide make.conf. Then you can just readd the reference later. I would just comment it out myself as it makes it extremely easy.

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post #62 of 79
1/20/08 at 6:50pm
yep, did that
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post #63 of 79
1/23/08 at 2:56pm
since it didnt look like that bug is going to be fixed soon, i jumped back to the immediately previous version of QT4 and continued on. now im having a problem building kdenetwork, just craps out in it
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post #64 of 79
1/23/08 at 8:06pm
rebuilt everything else, and then it finished building fine. now its up and going

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post #65 of 79
1/24/08 at 11:21am
http://windows.kde.org/

New KDE4 for windows binaries released.
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post #66 of 79
1/24/08 at 10:58pm
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yep, heard about that YD, now we'll see some great programs ported like Amarok
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post #67 of 79
1/24/08 at 11:21pm
Well for the record for those unaware, KDE 4 was also ported to Mac OS X and Windows...

To be honest I am not all that excited about this, and am kinda leaning towards it being a bad idea actually. I am not awake enough to go into it right now though, maybe later if someone reminds me.

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post #68 of 79
1/24/08 at 11:35pm
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Originally Posted by YankeeDeuce View Post
http://windows.kde.org/

New KDE4 for windows binaries released.
Why?

I just don't see the point.
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post #69 of 79
1/25/08 at 12:29am
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well, i for one love Pidgin on windows (gtk but thats besides the point) I want some kde apps like amarok, i love that program.

but i only want it if it doesnt hinder the development of KDE 4.0, its buggy as hell already, they need to get on that and fix it up...

cant wait til kde 4.5... probably going to be a while though
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post #70 of 79
1/25/08 at 1:06am
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Originally Posted by BIGEE1212 View Post
well, i for one love Pidgin on windows (gtk but thats besides the point) I want some kde apps like amarok, i love that program.

but i only want it if it doesnt hinder the development of KDE 4.0, its buggy as hell already, they need to get on that and fix it up...

cant wait til kde 4.5... probably going to be a while though
of course, but why not just run linux with KDE then? I mean we're taking developers that could be furthering KDE on linux with bug fixes/developement, and we're using them to give windows users one less reason to switch.
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post #71 of 79
1/25/08 at 2:21am
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Originally Posted by drlouis View Post
of course, but why not just run linux with KDE then? I mean we're taking developers that could be furthering KDE on linux with bug fixes/developement, and we're using them to give windows users one less reason to switch.
the idea is the other way around, actually, getting them using KDE applications in their regular day-to-day tasks so theyll have less and less reason to stay using Windows because their regular apps are there and working just the same in linux
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post #72 of 79
1/25/08 at 2:48am
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the idea is the other way around, actually, getting them using KDE applications in their regular day-to-day tasks so theyll have less and less reason to stay using Windows because their regular apps are there and working just the same in linux
I think that thinking is flawed - if they have the apps they like (the KDE apps) already in windows why change? Inertia is significant. If we want people to change we have to offer them something worth changing for, and only give it to them IF they change. Giving them the goodies "for free" is a mistake imho.
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post #73 of 79
1/25/08 at 12:24pm
I am against this for a different reason actually...

Why would people WANT to run KDE on Windows or Mac? Ok you get some oddballs like me that will go through the setup on a Mac to get e17 running because we find the Mac desktop to limiting, but on a Mac if you aren't running through the Quartz-WM I don't believe you get any hardware acceleration. On either platform it would be an extra layer of things taking up resources and slowing things down in order to get anything done.

So I just can't understand why someone, who doesn't already run Linux, would WANT to run KDE on Windows or Mac. So I suppose in that case I gotta side with Dr. Louis as well on this.

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post #74 of 79
1/26/08 at 3:40am
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Originally Posted by seablade View Post
Why would people WANT to run KDE on Windows or Mac?
Why would people WANT to run Firefox/Thunderbird/GIMP/Inkscape/OpenOffice/Pidgin/Scribus on Windows or Mac?
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post #75 of 79
1/26/08 at 3:50am
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Originally Posted by YankeeDeuce View Post
Why would people WANT to run Firefox/Thunderbird/GIMP/Inkscape/OpenOffice/Pidgin/Scribus on Windows or Mac?
those are all individual apps that can run just fine without KDE. windows has it's own GUI. I just don't see it. I still think it's a colossal wast of resources.
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post #76 of 79
1/27/08 at 7:31pm
alright, looks like I was wrong. I was under the impression this was a port of the KDE desktop to windows, but it's just the apps, and it appears they're not wasting much in the port.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post....html#cooliris
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KDE developer Aaron Seigo also spoke about KDE's cross-platform ambitions and discussed some of the broader implications. Bringing popular KDE programs to Windows and Mac OS X is somewhat controversial in the open source software community, because doing so is seen by some as a means of eroding incentives for Linux adoption. Seigo and many in the KDE community contend that making KDE applications available on other platforms brings more freedom and choice to Windows users and gives them the ability to adopt open standards and establish an easier migration path to Linux.

It is also worth noting that the manner in which these porting efforts are being undertaken—with a largely uniform code base for all major platforms and very few instances where divergent code paths are used to resolve platform-specific issues in individual applications—is very positive because it will ensure that portability doesn't detract from the quality of the applications or turn Linux into a second-class citizen.
my attitude toward this has been updated from against to neutral.
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post #77 of 79
1/27/08 at 9:30pm
Mine still hasn't shifted to much

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post #78 of 79
1/28/08 at 2:24pm
Yeah, Not really into this.
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post #79 of 79
1/28/08 at 5:27pm
Hmm... Along these lines....

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...on-of-kde.html

Nokia is apparently purchasing QT, which provides the underpinnings for KDE. While it is unlikely to affect KDE, it is interesting to see. Nokia also supports GTK somewhat with their support for the Maemo platform, which apparently is going to continue to be developed for the internet tablet using amongst us. But still interesting developments.

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