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post #21 of 36
didn't you learn the lesson as 7700 owner?
laptop is a laptop & Desktop is a Desktop
trying to mix these 2 in 1 machine will never be good
i know that the hard way
the 7700 way
post #22 of 36
they cant release the m17x until nvidia finalizes the drivers for the SLI...
post #23 of 36
Thread Starter 
No desire to own a desktop, really. The one issue i had w/ my 7700 was video card related so any lessons learned have nothing to do w/ my future purpose of the m17x or a Sager...I will not be getting a Sager w/ a desktop processor, for sure....

Frankus, I know they can't release it but they could take pre-orders or at LEAST give us some clue on options, build specs, etc...but I know, my lack of patience is REALLY a problem on this issue! I'll just sit back and bite my lower lip!

pat!
post #24 of 36
alienware probably is not going to have long pre-order waits...when i bought my
m9750 i had to wait almost 4 months to get it even though i pre-ordered it because of driver issues and chassis products not available...so this is probably why there not releasing the page until they have enough chassis parts and hardware to know what they are going to place on the page...
post #25 of 36
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Originally Posted by 311alien View Post
the gager <-lol is out already. the m17x is not.... i'd wait but that's me.... you get to see what both 17 form factors offer. is my opinion... nothing to lose that way..
What do you mean by "out"?

Are they taking orders, or are they actually shipping...?
post #26 of 36
Still gotta wait till the end of February for SLI.
post #27 of 36
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Originally Posted by Hammerhead View Post
What do you mean by "out"?

Are they taking orders, or are they actually shipping...?
Good question, i'm not even sure, is the GAGER(joke)out yet anyone? but point being, wait for both then decide if you can hold out that long.
post #28 of 36
Thread Starter 
Okay, here's another question for ya! My current 7700 has the following DESKTOP processsor: Intel® Pentium® 4 670 Desktop Processor w/ HT Technology 3.8GHz 800MHz FSB 2MB. No, my MOBO has never died, lucky me!!! So the m17x is rumored to offer a 2.83 Duo Extrememe processor....Now, given all my other current system specs (see my sig!), if I max out an m17x w/ 4 gigs ram, 2.83 ram, etc., with two 8800s, how much of a performance boost am I going to get in reality?

Just curious as this will only be my SECOND high-end purchase so my experience in comparing high end systems is limited at best and I'm not too proud to admit it

pat!
post #29 of 36
considering the processor will be a 2.8GHZ processor its dual core so its like its running at 5.6GHZ compared to your 3.8 single core processor... The performance boost with dual 8800 cards will be extremely better than you 256mb 7800 card.. from what i have heard one 8800 cards is suppose to be more powerful than dual 7950GTX cards... so its a big jump for you..
post #30 of 36
Thread Starter 
Frankus, thanks! That's what I'm assuming...basically for me it all boils down to being able to play any game I choose on 1920x1200 reso...That is, for me, the bottom line! I'm hopeful that by dropping what could be $6K (where's my wife? is she looking???) I will be floored by the difference!

Again, thanks,
pat!
post #31 of 36
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Originally Posted by pad11 View Post
Okay, here's another question for ya! My current 7700 has the following DESKTOP processsor: Intel® Pentium® 4 670 Desktop Processor w/ HT Technology 3.8GHz 800MHz FSB 2MB. No, my MOBO has never died, lucky me!!! So the m17x is rumored to offer a 2.83 Duo Extrememe processor....Now, given all my other current system specs (see my sig!), if I max out an m17x w/ 4 gigs ram, 2.83 ram, etc., with two 8800s, how much of a performance boost am I going to get in reality?

Just curious as this will only be my SECOND high-end purchase so my experience in comparing high end systems is limited at best and I'm not too proud to admit it

pat!
When we are talking desktop, it's about cheapness (not quality, but pricing) and performance. Heck, if laptop compartment could perform better than desktop, why would desktop still exist? It would be redundant if it works like that. It will be like all those huge handphone/cellphone brick that has less features (in terms of computers;performance) AND obvious physical weaknesses like big size which eat space alot.

BUT,

as laptop user/enthusiast, we are slightly MORE concerned about the mobility and "All-in-one" as our preference. But now, as technology evolving, somehow Alienware (arima or whatever, but technology) can equipped a high-end parts inside those tiny little box which must fall into some specific width and height to be recognized as laptop species. So all in all, we get the best performer we could get without missing all the mobility and all-in-one features.

In more technical explanation,

gaming is one of the most demanding applications can be found for computers/laptops. So if all you do is gaming, then of coz if you compare side-by-side a laptop (or even one of its compartment) with a desktop (or even one of its compartment), desktop will have the extra yard.

Fear shall you not young padawan, if you still reading this, I have one great news for ya. Laptop comes best every time you move it. Desktop is really suck at when we try to compare that. Even if you move to next room. You are "travelling" with your screen monitor, keyboard, mousepad, bluetooth, internet connector, dvd drive and what not. That's 1 - 0 laptop.

And like I mentioned above, all in one packages, I have an Alienware p2 predator DESKTOP with me now, but I found it's extremely annoying in terms of the amount of spaces it's eaten for all the basic computer component. My LCD, mouse, keyboard and rig-tower eat much more space if we compare with a laptop. And here's the key, even with all those extra spaces taken, I still don't have bluetooth which requires me to get one of those USB-powered bluetooth. But still, occasionally my bluetooth keyboard are not responding bla bla bla maybe due to different configuration or whatever it is. Another point of "all-in-one" package, laptops service or even drivers, comes in one package as well. It's much easier to get the drivers for specific kind of laptop since it comes in one. Compared to desktop, with huge possibility of configuration, sometimes you heard people complaining couldn't run some games accordingly with their "supposed" desktop performance, just because of one or more driver isn't working properly.

When we are talking bout the Sager and m17x in specific, I would say get m17x as it has all laptops component (which is explained above) but if you don't mind THICKNESS and HEAVINESS (which isn't the features that a mobile plaftorm users/gamers are looking for), then get the Sager. Heck, even with the amount of space given in the Sager, I would say in the long-term, it isn't enough to hold the heat that released by a desktop component. Maybe it will hold for like months, but I see it's a m7700 dejavu. Not all of us are self-initiative users u know, some will just let the dust caked beneath their Sager and eventually get an overbaked np8938 or whatever the series is. Performance is tempting, but think again. If performance is what you see, might as well consider a desktop. Because with that huge and heavy features, it will be the same like having a desktop if it doesn't move much but around your table/workstation.

Sorry for the long reply, but I really hope it helps you, since I see you are in dilemma, I think if you went with Sager, I could see you will ultimately regret later in the future.
post #32 of 36
Thread Starter 
I'm pretty much figuring on waiting for the 17x...I just REALLY have no patience, like I said, and as my wife has said on numerous occasions, it's not a nice trait!!!!

pat!
post #33 of 36
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Originally Posted by pad11 View Post
I'm pretty much figuring on waiting for the 17x...I just REALLY have no patience, like I said, and as my wife has said on numerous occasions, it's not a nice trait!!!!

pat!
Patience is one of my favorite feelings ever. Unlike others, patience is about driving all others feelings/desire backwards (if u get what I mean). It's like when you get angry with Customer Support, you try to hold it and be calm. If you are eagerly waiting for something, you try to hold it and be calm.

Growing or processing others feeling isn't as hard as patience, for instance admire -> like -> love -> passionate or angry -> furious -> rage etc.

Maybe that explains why it's hard for you, because patience never come easy.
post #34 of 36
wow. look what this thread has turned into.
Patience is indeed hard, but in the end worth it, pad11.
You will not regret after getting your m17x, that's the bottom line.
post #35 of 36
Thread Starter 
I've told my wife that patience is NOT a virtue, it's a fast track to a heart attack

That's probably not the right way to look at it, huh?

Yes, I'll wait but this is worse than the PHASE watching game!

pat!
post #36 of 36
I'm also waiting to see what the m17x will offer, now that I've already seen the m15x. It's very tempting to go for one of the quickships right now.
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