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Thinking about buying a Sager...

post #1 of 8
1/16/08 at 9:21pm
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OK folks, bare with me here.... This would be my first Sager, if I decide so. I'm currently a Dell Latitude D810 owner. I am looking at the 9262 with the current specs:


- Display: 17" WSXGA+ LCD with Matte Finish Surface (1680X1050)
- Processor: Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme Processor X6800 / 4MB L2 Cache, 2.93GHz, 1066MHz FSB[+$975.00]
- Video & Graphics Card: Single Nvidia GeForce 8800M GTX Graphics with 512MB DDR3 Video Memory
- Operating System: Genuine MS Windows® VISTA BUSINESS 32/64-Bit Edition[+$30.00]
- Memory: 4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 2 X 2048MB[+$75.00]
- RAID Storage Options: RAID-0 Storage ( Data Strip - Requires 2nd Hard Disk Drive or both 2nd & 3rd Hard Disk Drives )
- Primary Hard Disk Drive: 200GB 7200rpm SATA 300 Hard Drive[+$165.00]
- Optical Drive: 8X DVD±R/RW/4X +DL Super-Multi Drive & Software
- Wireless Network Card: Intel PRO/Wireless 4965AGN - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module
- Bluetooth: Internal Bluetooth Module
- Primary Battery: Smart Li-ION Battery Pack
- Warranty: Sager Three Year Limited Warranty + 30 days No Dead Pixel Insurance Package[+$459.00]
- Carrying Bag: Standard Carrying Bag


A few questions... If I want to later, can I add another 8800 myself? Also, if I want to add another HD (maybe a ssd) later, is this possible in RAID 0 configuration if its the exact size drive?

I know I want the highest possible processor speed and definitely 4gb of ram, I don't do any gaming, but lots of CAD work and BIM stuff like with Revit, AutoCAD, and MAX.

Should I even bother worrying about adding another 8800? Should I just go with the NP5792 with the single 8800 and settle with the 2.60 ghz processors?

I know its kinda up to myself to decide if I want to save around $1000 but the possibility of upgrading to dual GFX and possibly adding a SSD later on are pretty appealing. Anyone else think that would be worth it?

Does anyone have any suggestions other than Sager that they feel do extremely well with the software I use? I looked at the Dell M6300 and XPS 1730 but the prices are nearly there with the 9262. Wonder if they will come out with the Quadro 3600m soon for the M6300?

What are your opinions/thoughts? Anything I'm not seeing? Anything coming out soon that would suit my needs well I don't know about?

Thanks for your time!
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post #2 of 8
1/17/08 at 2:51pm
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Anyone?
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post #3 of 8
1/17/08 at 7:58pm
I was wondering if the 9262 will take the new E8400 or E8500 processor?
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post #4 of 8
1/18/08 at 5:20am
If possible, wait for news about Intels new processors. They may require a motherboard/BIOS revision - resulting in a 9263 model. If you wanna go now then do not take the X6800 because of its poor price/performance ratio. The Q6600, Q6700 and E6850 offer more value for money.

You can add a 8800 later.
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post #5 of 8
1/18/08 at 5:36pm
Hard drives are easy to user-upgrade. As far as adding a 2nd video card later: despite the MXM standard, video cards are manufacturer specific. You have to get a Sager (Clevo) 8800 to drop into the 2nd slot along with their heatsink and fan. I haven't seen the prices of buying the video card and heatsink separately and installing it yourself, but I would bet that's a more expensive option.

On waiting for new processors: I think there's *always* the next big thing about to come out. You should buy the best you can afford when you're ready, and don't have buyer's remorse. Whatever you buy will always be cheaper in a month and there will always be something better in a month.
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post #6 of 8
1/22/08 at 2:14am
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Thanks for your responses. Has anyone tried overclocking the Q6700 in a NP9262?
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post #7 of 8
2/7/08 at 8:58pm
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If i were to go with the Q6700 would I be able to upgrade to another quad-core in the future since overclocking isnt possible?
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post #8 of 8
2/12/08 at 4:03pm
What may be more worthwhile is buying a Q6600 (or the cheapest Core 2 Duo) and waiting for the new 12MB L2 cache Penryn quads come out. If you have the cooling in place for the 65nm quads, the 45nm quads will be faster with lower heat/power consumption. I think I saw pre-order prices (they will be arriving soon *hopefully*) in the 350-380 range for the Q9450 which has the 12mb L2 cache and runs stock at 2.66ghz. Thus far, I'm very happy with the 6mb penryn vs the 4mb old Core 2 duo. However, I think solidworks/autocad/etc all have pretty good multi threading support at this point. I had issues with SLI support with Solidworks when I tried maybe 2+ years ago, but they probably have fixed that since then.
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