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post #61 of 146
In intel matrix storage console I get "no action" when right clicking on any of the icons there.

if i go into device manager and properties on the Policies tab the Optimize for performance is selected and greyed out. You can check Enable write caching on the disk, but under that it says " this device does not allow its write cache setting to be modified.

Is this because the intel program has its settings? if so I do not see an option to enable write caching.

These are the benchmarks for stock performance.


HD Tune Pro: WDC WD2500BEVS-22UST Benchmark
Read transfer rate
Transfer Rate Minimum : 25.5 MB/sec
Transfer Rate Maximum : 59.0 MB/sec
Transfer Rate Average : 46.5 MB/sec
Access Time : 23.2 ms
Burst Rate : 68.2 MB/sec
CPU Usage : 6.2%
post #62 of 146
I think you're right. The stock drive may not allow the settings to be adjusted at least not that I've seen before I swapped out my drive for my 2 drive setup.

But as the various benchies show - if you are willing to live with the risk of 1 disk crash taking out everything you have - the performance bump is pretty damn good and plenty noticeable.

Since this is just going to be an "away from the house" gaming / surfing machine - I don't plan on leaving any important docs or files on it.

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Originally Posted by sector7g View Post
In intel matrix storage console I get "no action" when right clicking on any of the icons there.

if i go into device manager and properties on the Policies tab the Optimize for performance is selected and greyed out. You can check Enable write caching on the disk, but under that it says " this device does not allow its write cache setting to be modified.

Is this because the intel program has its settings? if so I do not see an option to enable write caching.

These are the benchmarks for stock performance.

HD Tune Pro: WDC WD2500BEVS-22UST Benchmark
Read transfer rate
Transfer Rate Minimum : 25.5 MB/sec
Transfer Rate Maximum : 59.0 MB/sec
Transfer Rate Average : 46.5 MB/sec
Access Time : 23.2 ms
Burst Rate : 68.2 MB/sec
CPU Usage : 6.2%
post #63 of 146
If you get one of these WD 250 gb drives thats already in here and raid 0 it can you then enable the caching, or do you need to get one of those hitachi drives?
post #64 of 146
I have write-back caching enabled with my RAID 0 WD 250gb
post #65 of 146
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Originally Posted by Spinitch View Post
I have write-back caching enabled with my RAID 0 WD 250gb
Can you run a HD Tune test to see how the 2x250s run.

Thanks!
post #66 of 146
From a post I had on another thread

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Originally Posted by Spinitch View Post
HD TUNE:
200GB 7,200rpm 16mb cache
Minimum - 32.5mb/s
Maximum - 65.1mb/s
Average - 52.2mb/s
Access time - 14.9ms
Burst Rate - 61.6mb/s
CPU Usage - 9.3%

Single WD 250GB 5,400rpm 8mb
Minimum - 15.0mb/s
Maximum - 51.8mb/s
Average - 40.1mb/sec
Access Time - 25.0ms
Burst Rate - 65.7mb/s
CPU Usage - 11.7%

RAID 0 WD 250GB 5,400rpm 8mb cache
Minimum - 50.0mb/s
Maximum - 87.8mb/s
Average - 68.5mb/s
Access Time - 17.9ms
Burst Rate - 57.6mb/s
CPU Usage - 13.2%
With cache write enabled:
Minimum - 47.5mb/s
Maximum - 105.5mb/s
Average - 79.6mb/s
Access Time - 17.8ms
Burst Rate - 793.5mb/s
CPU Usage - 5.9%
post #67 of 146
Ya those WD scorpio's got some decent numbers in raid 0

gonna have to pick me up a 2nd one here b4 I get 2 much stuff installed on the single one.

Hate all that re-installing :P
post #68 of 146
First before and after comparisons from tonight's upgrade:

HD Tune: Stock drive, stock drivers:

Transfer Rate Minimum : 26.9 MB/sec
Transfer Rate Maximum : 52.8 MB/sec
Transfer Rate Average : 42.8 MB/sec
Access Time : 17.8 ms
Burst Rate : 54.4 MB/sec
CPU Usage : 11.5%

Upgrade to 2 x Hitachi Travelstar 7K200 7200 RPM, 120GB, 16M Cache
Latest Intel Chipset and RAID drivers for 965 Express Chipset

HD Tune: Intel Raid 0 Volume Benchmark

Transfer Rate Minimum : 49.8 MB/sec
Transfer Rate Maximum : 111.7 MB/sec
Transfer Rate Average : 89.7 MB/sec
Access Time : 14.7 ms
Burst Rate : 736.1 MB/sec
CPU Usage : 11.9%
post #69 of 146
Thread Starter 
I ordered, and hope to have, my T9300 tomorrow. I'll post some pictures, as well as benchmarks this weekend on it.

I'm also sending my two 60 gb Hitachi HD's back and getting a second WD 250 gb Scorpio HD, which I'll install w/the original one, which I'll run as RAID 0. I'll post some pictures of it, as well as some benchmarks of it this weekend also.

I've also got a 1 gb Intel Turbo Memory card coming next week. I'll also post pictures of it. together w/some benchmarks. For $25, I figured what the heck.

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post #70 of 146
I've got to say Go Hack you know how to draw a crowd with this review. Congrats.
post #71 of 146
Thread Starter 
Quote:
I've got to say Go Hack you know how to draw a crowd with this review. Congrats.

Thx.

Just want to help people, and to show how easy it is to upgrade this baby.

The P-6831 FX may not be a Sager or an Alienware, but for the price, it allows a lot of people, who couldn't afford such machines, something comparable, that can be upgraded.

Also the more expensive a system is, the less likely people are to upgrade, or modify it, for fear of effecting the warranty.

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post #72 of 146
Quote:
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Just want to help people, and to show how easy it is to upgrade this baby
agreed, a good review with a clear and detailed FAQ/Guide
http://www.notebookforums.com/thread212385.html

cheers ...
post #73 of 146
Thread Starter 
Quote:
agreed, a good review with a clear and detailed FAQ/Guide
http://www.notebookforums.com/thread212385.html

cheers ...
Well I guess Spinitch has surpassed me. I didn't know about that one. I guess there's no need for anything further from me.

Sorry.

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post #74 of 146
nonsense!!

the more the merrier. I'm looking forward 2 your pictures and benchmarks from your latest upgrades.

post away! please!
post #75 of 146
Quote:
the more the merrier
AGREED! just wanting to make sure that visitors and forum users see more info coming out of the sections, with PERSONAL inputs

please also keep support and review posts in corresponding threads.

cheers ...
post #76 of 146
Thread Starter 
I just installed my T9300, using Arctic Silver 5 (AS5) as a thermal compound (T/C), and it is presently running 40C, for Core 0, and 35C, for Core 1, unloaded.

I do have to say, Gateway did a good job w/their installation of the original T5450, in that they used what appeared to be a Silver T/C on it, as well as it having a good complete coating. Some manufacturers tend to not put a sufficient coating of T/C on, much less even use silver, but rather the white silicon stuff. The standard white silicon T/C works, don't get me wrong, but silver has a much better heat transfer than silicon does.

The installation of the T9300 was very easy. I do recommend using a Philip's head jeweler's screw driver, for removing the heat sink screws, as well as for the case cover screws, which can be purchased at Radio Shack (RS), as well as a small straight edge screw driver, for unlocking the cpu from it's socket, which too can be purchased at RS. Of course you'll need the AS5, or if you can't find it, regular white silicon T/C from Radio Shake will do. Before disassembling, take a small magnet and run the Philip's head screwdriver that you will be using, across it a few times, enough to put a small magnet force on it. If you don't have a magnet, look around for some speakers. Reason, the screws on the heat sink are very small, as well as there being a couple of small springs on it too, that can all fall very easily off, and into the case. Rubbing Alcohol and a Q-Tip will be helpful for cleaning the T/C off of the heat sink, as well as a tooth pick for applying the T/C. Take the tooth pick and apply a "very" small coating of T/C on the CPU surface. Lay the heat sink down onto it and press it down w/your finger, then take it off to inspect the heat sink surface for a complete transfer of the T/C. If it wasn't complete, add just a little more to the areas that didn't get transfered, and then assemble. Tighten the screws according to the marked number sequence on the heat sink. Total install was maybe a half hour in my case, because of my dropping a couple of the screws into the case , requiring me to look around myself, for a magnet for my screw driver. Other than that, it was a piece of cake. The system booted up and saw the T9300.

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post #77 of 146
Nice Nice ..

I seen t9300 on ebay a few weeks ago for 315.00 + free shipping If i wasnt leaving for a month I would have got it then.

I hope there are some for the getting at the same price when i get back in late march

Oh and can we get some before and after benchmarks ?

perhaps list any changes in battery life?
post #78 of 146
I gotta say this review is great and includes just about everything i could ever want to know about this laptop which I believe is an amazing laptop for the price and i will be buying it within the next few weeks.

the one question i have for all of you is, what is the battery life like? this is the one thing i dont no about this laptop. thanks in advance
post #79 of 146
The battery life is 1 hour and 55 minutes according to DVD drain test. The same test scores 20 minutes less on Gateway P-171XL FX, which has a faster CPU and a higher resolution screen to power.
GOHACK, please, post some benchmarks with your new quad core ASAP. I am really into buying this BEST deal in cyberspace. Just need some more convincing .

Hope the battery info helps.
Regards,
LtR
post #80 of 146
The T9300 is still a dual core, not quad core.
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