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post #21 of 180
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http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.p...=18684&catid=2

More GeForce 9800 GTX pictures and numbers Posted by: Cristian on March 14, 2008 11:17

Although it's more of an evolutionary step as it still uses a G92 chip, we can't get enough of the soon-to-be-released GeForce 9800 GTX, and we're not alone. Some nice far Eastern folks have got their hands on a 9800 GTX and, after swapping the stock cooler with a Zalman Fatal1ty fan, put it to the test in 3DMark06.

Backed by a Core 2 Quad Q6600 CPU set to 3400 MHz and the ForceWare 174.40, the GeForce 9800 GTX returned a score of 13212 at the default resolution, an unimpressive but still decent result. In addition to running Futuremark's benchmark the card has also been put side by side with a few current graphics cards and, as you can see from the images below, if size matters, then the 9800 GTX takes the cake courtesy of its 10.5" length.

The 9800 GTX is set to cost between $299 and $349 and will be officially introduced on March 25th.









Photos courtesy of pcinlife.com.
post #22 of 180
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how does this compare with the 8800gtx? what is the main improvement?

and take a look at this:

http://www.evga.com/products/pdf/512-P3-N867-AR.pdf
post #23 of 180
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GeForce 9800 GTX gets undressed Written by Lars-Göran Nilsson Wednesday, 05 March 2008 06:45

Bares it all for the camera

Expreview has a whole bunch of pictures of the upcoming GeForce 9800 GTX in the nude and it looks very different from the GeForce 8800 GTX that they've put next to it on one of the pictures. The card is about as long as the old 8800 GTX, but as it's using a 256-bit memory interface, it has a very different board layout.

What is striking in the pictures is the power regulation part of the card; it has a huge amount of solid capacitors, more than we've ever seen on a graphics card before, and if the information is indeed correct, it's using a four phase PWM for the GPU and a two phase design for the memory.

The card does, of course, support 3-Way SLI, as it has a pair of connectors toward the front of the PCB. The reference card has a pair of dual link DVI ports and a TV-out connector, but there's also some wierd connection between the PCB and the rear I/O shield. This might be some kind of support brace, but it looks very strange and we've never seen anything like it on past Nvidia cards.

You can check out the pictures here

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...6054&Itemid=34
post #24 of 180
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9800GTX is just around the corner, will hit the market between March and April. So the leak is not surprising.
This is the P392 PCB design. Like other G92 cards, memory also circles around the GPU.

The back

two Dual-link DVI+TV out, like other reference card.

The GPU is G92-420. 9800GX2 is G92-450


Memory is also the same, Samsung’s K4J52324QE 0.8ns GDDR3 module.

all DVI and TV-out are shield well. The black wire thing is a Power LED.


4+2 phase power module.

It needs dual 6pin connectors. the 4pin fan connector also moved.


compare to 8800GTX, their length are all the same.

9800GTX scores 35803 at 3Dmark03. you would like to compare it with our 3Dmark06 score.


http://en.expreview.com/2008/03/05/l...re-everywhere/
post #25 of 180
Thanks for posting!
post #26 of 180
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"It needs dual 6pin connectors. the 4pin fan connector also moved."

omg so 3-way sli needs 6 6-pin connectors?
post #27 of 180
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http://www.gamespot.com/features/618...s&subj=6187891



: James YuPosted on March 18, 2008
GeForce 9800 GX2



GeForce 9800 GX2 interview with Nvidia's Ujesh Desai
Watch It »

We knew that Nvidia's flagship GeForce 8800 Ultra's days were numbered after the graphics manufacturer released the GeForce 8800 GT late last year. A single GeForce 8800 GT can't outperform an Ultra, but two GTs will, and the two cards can be had for less than the price of a single Ultra. AMD also added pressure on the Ultra with the release of its dual-GPU ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2. Nvidia has today responded with a new flagship card, the GeForce 9800 GX2.
The GeForce 9800 GX2 promises top performance thanks to its two onboard GeForce 9800 GPUs, featuring a combined total of 256 processing cores clocked at 1.5GHz. In comparison, the GeForce 8800 Ultra has only 128 processing cores at the same clock speed. The GX2 also comes with an equally large price tag, with an estimated retail price ranging from $599 to $649. Our XFX GeForce 9800 GX2 came with Company of Heroes and an "I'm gaming, Do not disturb" doorknob hanger.

GeForce 9800 GX2 Outputs Power Audio input Software and docs
It's easiest to think of the GeForce 9800 GX2 as SLI on a single card. The card has two stacked printed circuit boards, one for each GPU, similar to the design of the GeForce 7950 GX2. However, unlike the 7950, the 9800 GX2 comes encased in a sleek plastic enclosure. The two GPUs won't double the frame rates over a single chip due to SLI overhead, but should show decent gains ranging between 1 and 2x depending on the application. The card has 1GB of memory with 512MB dedicated to each chip. The GX2 supports PCI Expresss 2.0 and DirectX 10. ATI's latest cards support DirectX 10.1, but we haven't seen any games that take advantage of it yet.
Nvidia has confirmed that you will be able to run two GeForce 9800 GX2 cards together for Quad SLI, but the company isn't letting any publications post quad-GPU numbers until next week, when its PC system partners make their Quad SLI announcements.
GPUGeForce 9800 GX2GeForce 8800 UltraGeForce 8800 GTXGeForce 8800 GTPrice$599-649$649$399$189Stream Processors256128128112Shader Clock1.5GHz1.5GHz1.35GHz1.5GHzCore Clock600MHz612MHz575MHz600MHzMemory512MBx2768MB768MB512MBMemory Clock1GHz1.08GHz900MHz900MHzMemory Interface256-bit384-bit384-bit256-bit

Our XFX GeForce 9800 GX2 has HDMI and two dual-link DVI-I connectors. The dual-link DVI connectors can handle high-resolution monitors, and can also run VGA monitors using analog adaptors. HDMI output connectors have become more important now that video cards are capable of accelerating HD video playback. The GX2 has a SPDIF audio input connector on the top of the card to supply the audio feed from the motherboard or an external graphics card for HDMI output.
A performance monster like the GeForce 9800 GX2 also comes with hefty power requirements. Nvidia recommends using a 580W power supply with a single card and 850W for two GX2s running in SLI. XFX recommends 630W or more for a single GX2 and 680W or more for an SLI configuration. You also need to make sure that the power supply has the necessary six- and eight-pin power connectors for the card. The power input connectors can be a little snug--we had to snap off some of the plastic between the two connectors in order to get our Targas power supply plugs to fit into the card.
Power-conscious users might be interested in the GeForce 9800 GX2's new HybridPower feature that lets you switch between integrated graphics and the GX2 depending on the graphics workload. The switch allows users to save power while running normal desktop applications that don't need the video card's processing power. The feature currently only works with HybridPower-enabled motherboards with integrated GeForce graphics.
Judging by the specifications, we expected the XFX GeForce 9800 GX2 to perform similarly to a GeForce 8800 GTX or Ultra SLI system. We currently don't have any GeForce 8800 Ultra cards, but our dual GeForce 8800 GTX configuration, currently selling for close to $800, should be a formidable challenge. We also tossed in an ATI Radeon HD 3870 to see how another dual-GPU card compares, and a GeForce 8800 GT SLI setup to see how one of Nvidia's best SLI offerings stacks up to the newest 9800. We had to fall back to Windows XP SP2 in Crysis and Unreal Tournament 3 due to irregular driver performance in Vista.

XFX GeForce 9800 GX2 Performance

(Longer bars indicate better performance)

3DMark06, 1280x1024, Vista

GeForce 8800 GTX SLI
14728

GeForce 9800 GX2
14206

GeForce 8800 GT SLI
14506

Radeon HD 3870 X2
15970

GeForce 8800 GTX
12216


Call of Duty 4, 1600x1200, High Quality (Water Reflections Low), Vista

GeForce 8800 GTX SLI
93

GeForce 9800 GX2
81

GeForce 8800 GT SLI
90

Radeon HD 3870 X2
51

GeForce 8800 GTX
53


Crysis, 1600x1200, High Quality, XP

GeForce 8800 GTX SLI
48

GeForce 9800 GX2
47

GeForce 8800 GT SLI
43

Radeon HD 3870 X2
34

GeForce 8800 GTX
31


Unreal Tournament 3, 1600x1200 4xAA/8xAF, Maximum Quality, XP

GeForce 8800 GTX SLI
118

GeForce 9800 GX2
174

GeForce 8800 GT SLI
103

Radeon HD 3870 X2
137

GeForce 8800 GTX
66





Windows Vista System Setup: Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9775, Intel D5400XS, 4GB FB-DIMM (2x2GB), 750GB Seagate 7200.10 SATA Hard Disk Drive, Windows Vista 32-bit. Graphics Cards: GeForce 9800 GX2 1GB ,GeForce 8800 GTX 768MB, GeForce 8800 GT 512MB, Radeon HD 3870 X2 1GB. Graphics Drivers: ATI Catalyst 8.3, Nvidia ForceWare beta 169.44, Nvidia ForceWare beta 174.53.
Windows XP System Setup: Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650, eVGA 780i SLI, 2GB Corsair (2x1GB), 750GB Seagate 7200.10 SATA Hard Disk Drive, Windows XP SP2. Graphics Cards: GeForce 9800 GX2 1GB ,GeForce 8800 GTX 768MB, GeForce 8800 GT 512MB, Radeon HD 3870 X2 1GB. Graphics Drivers: ATI Catalyst 8.3, Nvidia ForceWare beta 169.44, Nvidia ForceWare beta 174.53.
The GX2's performance level certainly justifies its place atop the GeForce 9 series product line. The GeForce 9800 GX2 more than doubled the performance of the GTX in Unreal Tournament 3 and offered a more than 50 percent improvement in Crysis and Call of Duty 4. The GX2 also beat out the $800 GTX SLI setup in Unreal Tournament 3, and matched the SLI system in Crysis before falling slightly behind in Call of Duty 4.
At an estimated cost of $599-649, the XFX GeForce 9800 GX2 isn't for everyone. If you absolutely have to have the best performance at any cost, then you'll want to pick up one or two GX2s for your gaming rig. More cost-conscious buyers should look at lower price points where you can get more bang for the buck. Keep in mind that while expensive, top-of-the-line cards aren't for average PC gamers with average salaries, the graphics companies understand that these flagship cards create a halo effect over the rest of the product line. The high prices can also serve as anchor points for comparison shopping. Buyers who can't afford a GeForce 9800 GX2 might view the more affordable GeForce 9600 GT or GeForce 8800 GT cards as bargains in comparison.
post #28 of 180
I find it funny an 8800GT sells for $50-70 cheaper than a 7950GTX on Newegg.
post #29 of 180
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Nvidia launches dual-GPU GeForce 9800 GX2
By Jose Vilches, TechSpot.com
Published: March 18, 2008, 3:52 PM EST



Last month AMD pleased us all by launching what we considered was the fastest single-card solution on the market to date, the Radeon HD 3870 X2. But we all knew it was only a matter of time before Nvidia's dual-GPU response arrived, potentially putting the company out in front again. Well, that day has come and Nvidia is finally shipping its GeForce 9800 GX2 to retailers, with promises to redefine the high end of the graphics market.

The GX2 contains two G92 GPUs each with 128 unified shader processors running at 1.5GHz, a 600MHz core clock, and 512MB of GDDR 3 video memory running at 1GHz. Nvidia promises to crush benchmark scores with this card and in fact, according to most of the reviews out there, it does. However, at a suggested retail price of $599.99 to $649.99 many might want to consider a different setup such as two 8800 GTs in SLI for maximum performance at the lowest price (about $200-$300 less than the 9800 GX2). Check out a few reviews at: AnandTech, Hard OCP, Hot Hardware, and Overclockers Club.
post #30 of 180
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got my 9600 gt today, it's holding up well against crysis. everything is smooth on high in xp.

Thermaltake Toughpower Modular 750W PSU
e-GeForce 9600 GT KO 512MB
Thermaltake SopranoRS 101 Case
Corsair 2GB PC8500 1066Mhz 240-Pin DDR2 RAM (Twin2X2048-8500C5D) Dominator
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Quad-Core Processor, 2.40 GHz, 8M L2 Cache, LGA 775, G0 stepping
Asus P5N-T Deluxe Motherboard - NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI, Socket 775, ATX, Audio, PCI Express 2.0, Gigabit LAN, S/PDIF, USB 2.0, Firewire, eSATA, RAID
post #31 of 180
That's good. All of the 9600 reviews have been great...esp when sli'd
post #32 of 180
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Originally Posted by Buck47 View Post
That's good. All of the 9600 reviews have been great...esp when sli'd
it's an evga, soi'm waiting to see the gtxs to see if i should step it up and get 2 gtx's or go with 2 gt's
post #33 of 180
I just picked up a 9800GX2...Selling my 8800Ultra, if anybodys interested, mint condition, not one hiccup or flaw while playing games.
post #34 of 180
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are you upgrading you PSU to run the 9800gx2?
post #35 of 180
Why would I need to upgrade...My 850 watt isn't enough?
post #36 of 180
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depends, check your card manufacturer specs, for evga:

RequirementsMinimum of a 600 Watt power supply.
(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 28 Amp Amps.)
An available 6 pin PCI-E power connector and an available 8 pin PCI-E power connector
http://www.evga.com/products/moreInf...01G-P3-N891-AR
post #37 of 180
what did the 9800 run you?
post #38 of 180
I paid 614 or something shipped for it.


I'm puretty sure my 850 watt is more then enough power.
post #39 of 180
Your psu should be more than enough. Keep in mind that you might either have to get an adaptor for the 8pin to fit or cut the tab off the psu connector. Evga didn't at last check send the adaptor in the box. Just sumpin to think about before it gets there.
post #40 of 180
I have 8 or 6 pin on my PSU,,,Right now its folded back for the 6 pin, but it is an 8 pin.

Thanks for heads up.
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