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post #1 of 15
2/12/08 at 12:51pm
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i just wonder if it's possible to upgrade my notebooks Processor (intel celeron M 1.46ghz), RAM (512mb) and its Graphics Card (ATI RADEON Express 200m series 256 shared memory)... if so, what is the highest possible upgrade that i could perform?

not that good when it comes to pc...so i dont aim that highm all i want is to speed up my pc's performance so i really need your help guys...

you may e-mail me if you want...
plo_kakashi@yahoo.com
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post #2 of 15
2/12/08 at 3:16pm
CPU's are upgradeable but not easily done as it requires pretty much a full disassembly of the laptop. Rule of thumb is the laptop can be upgraded to the largest cpu carried by that model and supported by the same BIOS. Video cards are not replaceable but you can get PCMCIA vid cards for laptops. Pretty pricey.
As for speeding up your laptop and the best bang for the buck, maximize your memory to the full 2 g's and get a faster harddrive. The one you currently have is undoubtedly a 4200rpm> Should you upgrade to a 5400rpm, they are cheaper than the 7200 and will offer comparable performance.
Keep your system clean with getting rid of all temp files etc and having a good Antivirus program plus searching out intrusive spyware will also do wonders
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post #3 of 15
2/12/08 at 10:47pm
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so how will i know the possible highest cpu upgrade i could do on which it is carried by the model i have (Toshiba Satellite L35-S2161) and supported by my BIOS (upgrade the bios ones through downloading in Toshiba.com)

Also if vid cards are ireplaceable,what will adding PCMCIA vid cards for laptops do? and regrads with the RAM, i think i have a 512mb PC2-4200 DDR2, does it mean i could only upgrade with 2 1gb PC2-DDR2's only?

with my harddrive, i dont know if it has 4200rpm, but i think i already 5400rpm (not sure, dont know where to find it...) and if ever i want to upgrade to 7200rpm, is it possible too or there's still compatibility issues with this one?
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post #4 of 15
2/13/08 at 9:18am
Go to the Toshiba site to laptops>Customer support>Downloads. Check and see how many versions there are of the L35 series, the check out driver downloads and you will find the BIOS for each model and detailed spec for each model will give you the processor size.
Built in chips are not replaceable, PCMIA video cards can upgrade your video performance by disabling the vid chip and just using the PCMCIA vid card.
There are probably 2 memory slots in your computer, one under the keyboard which probably carries the 512MB. You or a tech would have to remove the keyboard, remove the 512 and put in a 1GB module, then put the other 1GB module in the slot in an access panel on the bottom of the laptop.
Your laptop probably has an 80GB SATA HDD. Just do a google search "Replacement HDD satellite L35", like I have to do. Yours is a Celeron M 1.4Ghz processor, with an 80G 5400rpm HDD
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post #5 of 15
2/13/08 at 10:59am
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Originally Posted by saugen48 View Post
Go to the Toshiba site to laptops>Customer support>Downloads. Check and see how many versions there are of the L35 series, the check out driver downloads and you will find the BIOS for each model and detailed spec for each model will give you the processor size.
Built in chips are not replaceable, PCMIA video cards can upgrade your video performance by disabling the vid chip and just using the PCMCIA vid card.
There are probably 2 memory slots in your computer, one under the keyboard which probably carries the 512MB. You or a tech would have to remove the keyboard, remove the 512 and put in a 1GB module, then put the other 1GB module in the slot in an access panel on the bottom of the laptop.
Your laptop probably has an 80GB SATA HDD. Just do a google search "Replacement HDD satellite L35", like I have to do. Yours is a Celeron M 1.4Ghz processor, with an 80G 5400rpm HDD
i think there's no more info about toshiba satellite L35-S2161 series in the site, except from it's new release bios and other accessories...I have an Intel Celeron M410 @1.46ghz... I want to upgrade it and asking for possible upgrades that is compatible with my model...i find it hard to search the net for possible CPU upgrades for my laptop, but someone in other forums posted a thread with the same topic (and same model as i have) that he manage to upgrade his CPU, from Intel Celeron M410 - Intel Core Duo T2250...unfortunately, the man who posted the thread is no longer active in the forum so i wasn't able to ask him if it works well and smooth...

so basically about the cpu, you are saying that all Satellite L35 are the same on which i could upgrade my CPU with the one in the Satellite L35 model with the highest CPU?

and regards with the memory...so it means i could possibly use any memory modules that i want (maximum of 1gb per slot)? for example, i am using a 512mb PC2-4200 DDR2, i can possibly change it to 1gb PC2-5300 DDR2 per slot?
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post #6 of 15
2/13/08 at 11:15am
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Originally Posted by plo32 View Post
..I have an Intel Celeron M410 @1.46ghz... I want to upgrade it and asking for possible upgrades that is compatible with my model...i find it hard to search the net for possible CPU upgrades for my laptop,
use this as a reference
http://www.arcom.com/products/icp/pc...or_options.htm

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but someone in other forums posted a thread with the same topic (and same model as i have) that he manage to upgrade his CPU, from Intel Celeron M410 - Intel Core Duo T2250..
doable, but a bit too extreme and might cause issue with stability

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so basically about the cpu, you are saying that all Satellite L35 are the same on which i could upgrade my CPU with the one in the Satellite L35 model with the highest CPU?
saugen48 was correct

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and regards with the memory...so it means i could possibly use any memory modules that i want (maximum of 1gb per slot)? for example, i am using a 512mb PC2-4200 DDR2, i can possibly change it to 1gb PC2-5300 DDR2 per slot?
that he was also, but i would just get more of the same ram and a faster drive first

cheers ...
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post #7 of 15
2/13/08 at 11:48am
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Originally Posted by qhn View Post
use this as a reference
http://www.arcom.com/products/icp/pc...or_options.htm


doable, but a bit too extreme and might cause issue with stability


saugen48 was correct


that he was also, but i would just get more of the same ram and a faster drive first

cheers ...
sorry but i didnt quite get saugen48.. and regards to the reference you gave me, i think theres no celeron M410 in the list..

so basically, what are the options (processor) that i could use rather than celeron m410?
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post #8 of 15
2/13/08 at 12:21pm
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Originally Posted by plo32 View Post
sorry but i didnt quite get saugen48.. and regards to the reference you gave me, i think theres no celeron M410 in the list..
my bad, wrong list

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so basically, what are the options (processor) that i could use rather than celeron m410?
well, let's see
. celeron M410, 479 pins, socket M. 533fsb
. so T2050/533, T2080/533, T2250/533, T2350/533, T2450/533 should be ok
. Intel Core Duo 2050 (1.66ghz/533fsb) - might/would work

cheers ...
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post #9 of 15
2/13/08 at 12:59pm
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Originally Posted by qhn View Post
my bad, wrong list


well, let's see
. celeron M410, 479 pins, socket M. 533fsb
. so T2050/533, T2080/533, T2250/533, T2350/533, T2450/533 should be ok
. Intel Core Duo 2050 (1.66ghz/533fsb) - might/would work

cheers ...
this is the environmental specs of my notebook

Temperature
Operating: 5° to 35° C
(41° to 95° F)
Non-operating: -20° to 65° C
(-4° to 149° F)

Thermal Gradient
Operating: 15° C per hour (max)
Non-operating: 20° C per hour (max)

and Intel Core Duo T2050/T2450 says that it's Thermal Specification is 100° C

should'nt i find any problem with that?
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post #10 of 15
2/13/08 at 1:32pm
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Originally Posted by plo32 View Post
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and Intel Core Duo T2050/T2450 says that it's Thermal Specification is 100° C
...
man, u were more detailed than i was when i upgraded my cpus, wattage usage was all that concerned me

i m not sure how to answer u on this one if pertaining to thermal specification


cheers ...
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post #11 of 15
2/13/08 at 8:10pm
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Originally Posted by qhn View Post
man, u were more detailed than i was when i upgraded my cpus, wattage usage was all that concerned me i m not sure how to answer u on this one if pertaining to thermal specification cheers ...
how come it say's here that intel celeron M410 has 478pins?
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post #12 of 15
2/14/08 at 6:25am
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"Socket 479 was used for the Pentium M generation of mobile chips (Dothan etc). Its chipset FSB runs at 400Mhz or 533Mhz.

When core duo came out (Yonah) they changed the socket to socket M. This was also used for the first round of core 2 duo (Merom) chips (Specifically, T5x00's and T7x00's check with teh T7x00's as they also have a Socket P variant). Its chipset FSB runs at 533Mhz or 667Mhz. This socket does not run chips from socket 479 despite having the same number of physical pins (478).

Socket P is for the newer mobile Core 2 chips (newer Meroms, Penryn* etc). It has an 800Mhz FSB, that can 'throttle' to 400Mhz to save power (Can also use 667Mhz and 533Mhz FSB speeds). Socket P also has 478 pins, but is not pin-compatible with either of the above sockets."

as one can also read different interpretation from other sources:
http://reviews.cnet.com/processors/i...4.html?tag=sub

i shoud have omitted the "479 pins" from my post #8 above and left it with just "socket M", totally confusing

cheers ...
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post #13 of 15
2/14/08 at 9:35pm
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owh i see... therefore, 478 and 479 pins on laptop cpu's are all the same? then, i should get my laptop a brand new T2450...thanks!!
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post #14 of 15
2/15/08 at 8:45am
Just a little something else to be aware of. Any tearing apart of the laptop will void any warranty remaining (if any)
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post #15 of 15
2/16/08 at 4:06am
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owh i see... therefore, 478 and 479 pins on laptop cpu's are all the same? then, i should get my laptop a brand new T2450...thanks!!
best way to do an upgrade is find out what the highest model processor ever offered in the l35 series was and use that. otherwise you risk it not working and frying your motherboard/processor and since you did major surgery your warranty is void so you are really screwed at that point.

also just because the pins all work doesnt mean the machine will, you need bios support as well.
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