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Restoring from Restore partition without Ctrl+f11 nor restore disks.

post #1 of 13
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Just to state first and foremost, this is not an issue I have. This is a preventative post for anyone that may ask down the line. (as I've seen it asked on multiple other forums.)

I had this issue with an inspiron 1720 I just got. It had an issue, so I installed vista from a Vista RTM disk. It didn't fix the problem in the end, so I sent it into dell and got fixed, but I wanted to a fresh restore from the restore partition because on restarts, I'd get the blue screen of Death. Fun stuff right?

Well, Unknowingly, when I installed vista off of the cd, that removed the ctrl+F11 option from the dell. This is stated on many forums, and it seems that most answers to this issue is to format and install a fresh install from cd again, or call dell and get recovery disks. I figured "Heck, If I still have the restore partition, there is not reason why I can't get it to restore with some effort."

Some other people I've seen have just had viral attacks, or just want to sell their laptop and need a fresh install. This is for those people that need it. The answer to the question of what if Control and F11 don't work.

So, Here I am with the fix. There is one required bit of software that's required, and that is simply a dos boot cd. You can find many iso's for dos on the net. All you have to do is burn a copy and boot from it. [EDIT] IMPORTANT: I was wrong about dos. As stated below ( http://www.notebookforums.com/post3049150.html ) you have to do it from a 32 bit environment. You can get through one in the XP repair console (on the install cd) or through one of the options in vista's setup.[/EDIT]

Ok, so this is going to be dumbed down a bit, and I'll explain what the dos commands do. First off, after booting into dos, you need to change to the restore partition. This isn't hard at all, all you do is type "D:" and press enter. After this, you need to find the restore file. This is a file with the extension of *.wim. This is an image of windows from dell factory.

Generally this file is found in d:\dell\image\ and is called Factory.wim. Just to double check, I'm going to tell you to change the directory. Type in "cd dell\image" and press enter. In dos, CD means Change Directory (or enter a folder). Now, to list all of the files in the directory type in "dir" and press enter.

This will give you a list. Unless you are on just the drive (aka C:\ or D:\) you will ALWAYS have . and .. as the top two files. This is regular, and just letting you know those aren't files but ways to go up a directory. Anyway, Out of the list of files (in my case there was only one) you should see something like Factory.wim or Restore.wim. If it isn't Factory.wim, replace anything I say to type in with factory.wim with your file.

Now we need to get back to the base drive. Instead of typing all of the ..\.. and so on, simply type "cd \" and press enter. Now that we are back at the main drive we can browse to where the restore aplication is. Type in "cd tools" and press enter. Now type in "imagex /apply d:\dell\image\factory.wim 1 c:\" and press enter. This starts the restore process. Sometimes it takes a while before it updates the percentage, so just let it sit doing it's thing for a while. It will finish all on it's own after it starts.

"imagex" is the application that extracts the files from the *.wim file. The "/apply" is to apply the image to the specified location. "D:\...\...\..." is the source location of the *.wim Image file. "1" is ... well, I haven't figured that one out, but if I had to guess, I would say it means unmodified extraction. "C:\" is the destination. MAKE SURE YOU WANT TO RESTORE. The restore process removes all files and folders for the destination drive. Be careful.

So, there you have it. How to restore dell's without pressing Control + F11.

Any questions or comments, Please leave them here.

**Note, this was done with a windows Vista home premium install.

(O-o I don't think this would be considered spam, it's ment to be helpful. So, please don't delete. I looked for hours on a solution like this and couldn't find a thing, so in frustration, I did it on my own. I just hope this helps someone.)
post #2 of 13
Havent tried this yet but I am hopefull this will work on my compaq laptop same issue. It took much searching to even find your howto.. thanks
post #3 of 13
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Originally Posted by Caliber Mengsk View Post
... "1" is ... well, I haven't figured that one out, but if I had to guess, I would say it means unmodified extraction. ...
I know this is an old post but I thought you may like to know what the 1 means.

The "1" means take image 1 of the wactory.wim file.
post #4 of 13
I apologize for replying to this really old post but I was wondering if this would work when one needs to replace the hard drive?
I was thinking if I could partition the new drive, copy the recovery partition from the old drive to the new, then follow your instructions, hopefully I could restore the factory image.
What do you think?
post #5 of 13
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Originally Posted by depawl View Post
I apologize for replying to this really old post but I was wondering if this would work when one needs to replace the hard drive?
I was thinking if I could partition the new drive, copy the recovery partition from the old drive to the new, then follow your instructions, hopefully I could restore the factory image.
What do you think?
The best thing to do is

1. Image the current hard disk
2. Restore to new hard disk
3. Resize new hard drive partitions.
post #6 of 13
So I assume you are talking about imaging the current drive with Symantec Ghost or something similar?
post #7 of 13
yes. I prefer Acronis TrueImage and Active @ Boot. That is how I upgrade to my new disks.
post #8 of 13
Hi, I recently upgraded to windows 7 but most of my peripherals are not working, I was confidet that if anything failed I still had the factory image that could restore anything but windows 7 killed the link and now i only have the wim image in my d drive in the dell/image folder, the thing is ive been trying to access the drives through DOS ( i have already downgraded to vista ) and used many iso files but with all of them im able to boot from cd or usb drives but i have not been able to find the drives. In most of them c: is loaded with the dos files and d: is not accesible. Is there any easy way to load DOS and execute the "imagex /apply d:\dell\image\factory.wim 1 c:\" command? thanks
post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by Makako View Post
...i only have the wim image in my d drive in the dell/image folder, the thing is ive been trying to access the drives through DOS ( i have already downgraded to vista ) and used many iso files but [...] In most of them c: is loaded with the dos files and d: is not accesible. Is there any easy way to load DOS and execute the "imagex /apply d:\dell\image\factory.wim 1 c:\" command?
Note that there are some errors in the original post. The Ctrl+F11 key combo was never used in Vista systems. Vista systems use F8.

The big error, though, is the reference to DOS. The method outlined by the OP definitely will not work from DOS. The ImageX application is a 32-bit app, and will not run from DOS.

ImageX will run from a Windows command prompt, which many people are familiar with when they open a command prompt window--often erroneously referred to as a "DOS window" or "DOS box". Although the command prompt may look like DOS, it is not DOS. While ImageX will run in a command prompt window, it will not run if you boot to real DOS. One is a 32-bit environment, the other is 16-bit.

There is no DOS boot disk you can boot from that will allow you to use this method. In fact, DOS will not even recognize NTFS file systems, so will never give the Recovery partition a drive letter you can use.

Instead, you must boot to a 32-bit Windows or WinPE environment. There are several ways to do this, such as:

  • Boot from the Vista Reinstallation DVD, and open a command prompt window; or
  • Boot from a XP Reinstallation CD, and go to the RE ("Recovery Environment") command prompt; or
  • Make a BartPE CD, boot from it, and exit to a command prompt; or
  • Connect the hard disk (either internally or via external USB case) to a working Windows system, boot Windows (2000, XP, or Vista) on the host system, and open a command prompt window.

In all cases, once you get to the command prompt, you're in an environment you can work from.

If you have the Vista DVD that came with your Dell, you can use the first method. See www.goodells.net/dellrestore/vistarecovery for further details.


HTH,

Dan Goodell
Inside the Dell Utility Partition
Inside the Dell PC-Restore Partition
post #10 of 13

recovery console ng

It works fine in the bart command prompt but wouldn't run in the recovery console. It said imagex was not a valid command. I tried it with and without the .exe. It seems to only want to run internal commands not exe files.
post #11 of 13

Imagex comand line and a recovery history

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caliber Mengsk View Post
"imagex" is the application that extracts the files from the *.wim file. The "/apply" is to apply the image to the specified location. "D:\...\...\..." is the source location of the *.wim Image file. "1" is ... well, I haven't figured that one out, but if I had to guess, I would say it means unmodified extraction. "C:\" is the destination.
I found this thread very helpful in replacing a defective hard disk (multiple read errors) in a Dell Vostro 1520 running Vista Ultimate. Along the way I came across full details of the Imagex command line here:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc749447%28WS.10%29.asp

In case it helps someone else, these are briefly the steps taken using Paragon Hard Disk Manager (PHDM). The laptop would boot but read errors and OS corruption were causing Explorer to restart continuously once at the desktop.
  1. Install new HD in laptop and defective HD in USB external case.
  2. Boot to Vista DVD and use Repair, command prompt to run chkdsk <usb drv letter>: /f/r/b to make old HD as read error free as possible.
  3. Boot to PHDM and use it to transfer whole disk image to new internal HD. Without Step 2 this would be a pain because of the bad block read errors which require a manual response. Disconnect USB HD for safe keeping, as the rest can be done on the new HD.
  4. Use PDHM to resize original OS partition smaller and move it to end of disk map, and renamed it DATA. This makes space for new OS partition between RECOVERY partition and DATA.
  5. Create new OS partition and format it to NTFS. This is important since Imagex.exe requires a formatted destination for the image to expand to.
  6. Reboot to Vista DVD > Repair. Use command prompt dir and chkdsk to be absolutely sure what drive letters refer to what partitions.
  7. Use Imagex as in this thread to do factory restore to new OS partition.
  8. System now offers both OS and DATA partitions to boot from. Boot from new OS, set up user as before etc. DATA volume is now available as a data drive holding any pf of user's data that has srurvived the original bad blocks errors.
  9. A more knowledgeable person than I would perhaps be able to repair to old DATA partion, still bootable and still showing Explorer restart problems, so as to avoid the chore of reinstalling software.
Thanks to all contributors to this thread.
post #12 of 13
thanks for the info.
post #13 of 13

You Must work for dell or Microsoft because this is the one advanced tool i needed to know about thanks!

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