Very comperable machines (predominatly used for CAD applications), here are the specs and prices, what would you choose?
ThinkPad T61p
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T9300 NV (2.50 GHz, 800 MHz FSB)
Genuine Windows® Vista Ultimate
15.4" WSXGA+ TFT
2 GB / 4 GB, DDR2 SDRAM, 667 MHz
0 SODIMM / 2 SODIMM
200 GB, Serial ATA
DVD Recordable (Dual Layer), 24X Max
Intel® Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN, Bluetooth Version 2.0 + EDR
Integrated Intel® PRO/1000 Gigabit Ethernet
256MB nVIDIA Quadro FX 570M
Fingerprint Reader
9 Cell Lithium-Ion
Express Warranty Service (EXS) - One year
$2,899.00
Accessories and options
12X5698 Upgrade to 3 yrs Onsite warranty (additional 2 yrs) with 3 yrs ThinkPad Protection (protection from accidental damages) $495 additional
Total: $3384
HP Compaq 8510w
Processor type
Intel® Centrino® processor technology
• Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor T7700
• 2.40 GHz , 4 MB L2 cache, 800 MHz Front Side Bus
• Intel® Wireless LAN 802.11a/b/g/n, Bluetooth 2.0+
Operating system installed
GT644PA: Genuine Windows Vista® Business
GT645PA: Genuine Windows XP Professional
Chipset
Mobile™ Intel® 965PM Express Chipset
Standard memory
1 x 2048 MB DDR2
Memory slots
2 SODIMM slots supporting dual channel memory
Memory upgrade
Upgradeable to 4GB maximum
System features
Internal hard disk drive
120 GB
Hard disk drive speed
7200 rpm
Optical drives
LightScribe DVD+/-RW SuperMulti with Double Layer Fixed
Multi-bay devices
Optional external Multibay II devices
Portability
Weight
Starting at 2.77 kg
Dimensions (W x D x H)
35.7 x 26.0 x 2.75 (at front) cm
Display size
15.4 inches diagonal
Connectivity
Wireless technologies
Intel® Wireless LAN 802.11a/b/g/n, Bluetooth 2.0+
Network interface
Integrated Intel® Gigabit Network Connection (10/100/1000 NIC)
Expandability
Expansion slots
Slots available for additional devices: 1 Type I/II PC Card slot supports both 32-bit CardBus and 16-bit cards, 1 Secure digital slot
External I/O ports
4 USB 2.0 ports, VGA, stereo microphone in, stereo headphone/line out, Firewire (1394a), HDMI, power connector, docking connector. RJ-11, RJ-45, secondary battery connector, optional Dual Link DVI through HP Advanced Docking Station
Software
Software included
Intel® Centrino® Pro processor technology capable, HP Backup and Recovery Manager, HP Help and Support Center, HP QuickLook (Windows Vista® only), HP OpenView Radia Management Agent, Roxio Creator 9 (for optional DVD+/–RW and DVD/CDRW drives), HP ProtectTools Security Manager, HP Wireless Assistant, HP Performance Tuning Framework, HP Client Manage software, HP Client Management Interface
Graphic / audio
Graphic card 01
NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M or ATI Mobility FireGL V5600 graphics controller
Graphic subsystem video card memory 01
256MB GDDR3 Discrete graphics and up to 512-MB with TurboCache/Hypermemory
Other information
Keyboard
Full-sized keyboard
Pointing device
Enhanced dual pointing devices (touchpad and pointstick) with scroll zone
Warranty standard statement
3-year standard parts, labour and onsite limited warranty, depending on country (upgrades available), 1-year limited warranty on primary battery
Power features
8-cell (73 WHr) Lithium-Ion battery
Power requirements
External 90W HP Smart AC adapter, HP Fast Charge Technology
Docking solution
HP Docking Station, HP Advanced Docking Station, HP 3-in-1 NAS Docking Station, HP External MultiBay II, HP Monitor Stand, HP Adjustable Notebook Stand (all sold separately)
Security management
HP ProtectTools Security Manager, optional HP Fingerprint Sensor, integrated Smart Card Reader, TPM 1.2 Embedded Security Chip, TPM Enhanced DriveLock, HP Disk Sanitizer, HP DriveGuard, Kensignton Lock slot, HP Privacy Filter (optional, available only at point of purchase), Symantec Norton Internet Security
Total Cost: $3799
Same graphics cards, slightly faster processor (noticably?) in the T61p, HP has HDMI while the T61p does not. HP is lighter, thinner and doesn't have the horror stories that seem to keep popping up with the new thinkpads quality.
HP, yes, more expensive, but possibly worth it.
What would you choose?
ThinkPad T61p
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T9300 NV (2.50 GHz, 800 MHz FSB)
Genuine Windows® Vista Ultimate
15.4" WSXGA+ TFT
2 GB / 4 GB, DDR2 SDRAM, 667 MHz
0 SODIMM / 2 SODIMM
200 GB, Serial ATA
DVD Recordable (Dual Layer), 24X Max
Intel® Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN, Bluetooth Version 2.0 + EDR
Integrated Intel® PRO/1000 Gigabit Ethernet
256MB nVIDIA Quadro FX 570M
Fingerprint Reader
9 Cell Lithium-Ion
Express Warranty Service (EXS) - One year
$2,899.00
Accessories and options
12X5698 Upgrade to 3 yrs Onsite warranty (additional 2 yrs) with 3 yrs ThinkPad Protection (protection from accidental damages) $495 additional
Total: $3384
HP Compaq 8510w
Processor type
Intel® Centrino® processor technology
• Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor T7700
• 2.40 GHz , 4 MB L2 cache, 800 MHz Front Side Bus
• Intel® Wireless LAN 802.11a/b/g/n, Bluetooth 2.0+
Operating system installed
GT644PA: Genuine Windows Vista® Business
GT645PA: Genuine Windows XP Professional
Chipset
Mobile™ Intel® 965PM Express Chipset
Standard memory
1 x 2048 MB DDR2
Memory slots
2 SODIMM slots supporting dual channel memory
Memory upgrade
Upgradeable to 4GB maximum
System features
Internal hard disk drive
120 GB
Hard disk drive speed
7200 rpm
Optical drives
LightScribe DVD+/-RW SuperMulti with Double Layer Fixed
Multi-bay devices
Optional external Multibay II devices
Portability
Weight
Starting at 2.77 kg
Dimensions (W x D x H)
35.7 x 26.0 x 2.75 (at front) cm
Display size
15.4 inches diagonal
Connectivity
Wireless technologies
Intel® Wireless LAN 802.11a/b/g/n, Bluetooth 2.0+
Network interface
Integrated Intel® Gigabit Network Connection (10/100/1000 NIC)
Expandability
Expansion slots
Slots available for additional devices: 1 Type I/II PC Card slot supports both 32-bit CardBus and 16-bit cards, 1 Secure digital slot
External I/O ports
4 USB 2.0 ports, VGA, stereo microphone in, stereo headphone/line out, Firewire (1394a), HDMI, power connector, docking connector. RJ-11, RJ-45, secondary battery connector, optional Dual Link DVI through HP Advanced Docking Station
Software
Software included
Intel® Centrino® Pro processor technology capable, HP Backup and Recovery Manager, HP Help and Support Center, HP QuickLook (Windows Vista® only), HP OpenView Radia Management Agent, Roxio Creator 9 (for optional DVD+/–RW and DVD/CDRW drives), HP ProtectTools Security Manager, HP Wireless Assistant, HP Performance Tuning Framework, HP Client Manage software, HP Client Management Interface
Graphic / audio
Graphic card 01
NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M or ATI Mobility FireGL V5600 graphics controller
Graphic subsystem video card memory 01
256MB GDDR3 Discrete graphics and up to 512-MB with TurboCache/Hypermemory
Other information
Keyboard
Full-sized keyboard
Pointing device
Enhanced dual pointing devices (touchpad and pointstick) with scroll zone
Warranty standard statement
3-year standard parts, labour and onsite limited warranty, depending on country (upgrades available), 1-year limited warranty on primary battery
Power features
8-cell (73 WHr) Lithium-Ion battery
Power requirements
External 90W HP Smart AC adapter, HP Fast Charge Technology
Docking solution
HP Docking Station, HP Advanced Docking Station, HP 3-in-1 NAS Docking Station, HP External MultiBay II, HP Monitor Stand, HP Adjustable Notebook Stand (all sold separately)
Security management
HP ProtectTools Security Manager, optional HP Fingerprint Sensor, integrated Smart Card Reader, TPM 1.2 Embedded Security Chip, TPM Enhanced DriveLock, HP Disk Sanitizer, HP DriveGuard, Kensignton Lock slot, HP Privacy Filter (optional, available only at point of purchase), Symantec Norton Internet Security
Total Cost: $3799
Same graphics cards, slightly faster processor (noticably?) in the T61p, HP has HDMI while the T61p does not. HP is lighter, thinner and doesn't have the horror stories that seem to keep popping up with the new thinkpads quality.
HP, yes, more expensive, but possibly worth it.
What would you choose?
