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post #41 of 63
ill make my prediction since everyone else is.

salo never delivered the message. the ship broke down again right outside of titan.

props if you caught that one.

-david

(i didnt say it was going to be about computers )
post #42 of 63
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The chipset will probably be ok but cannot stand up to a 800Mhs FSB unless Dell plans to revise this as soon as the new one is available.
Of course it will not be comparable to the 800FSB. However bearing in mind the current DESKTOP max is 533FSB and performance of the Radeon 9600 with this FSB on a Desktop is still AWESOME so the 400 FSB although not Ideal will still have spectacular results.

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Nice call here - only - is the 4200 Go up to the M-10 ?? Or will Dell replace this as an upgrade to the FX series for the current customers??
The 4200 Go is not upto the M10 but is currently the fastest Graphics card available in a production laptop. Dell will be a EARLY adopter of the M10 and Geforce FX as they always are in their laptops.. And as with previous Dell laptops the DELL video cards are easily USER upgradeable to the latest card which I have done on 2 occassions so far.

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Unless these are 7200 rpm or faster everything above will be effectively smothered. I think performance potential will be cut down by 30% if these are 5400 rpm drives!!
Yes indeed Laptop HD's will always be the limiting factor - However I would rather they released with a 5400 rpm than wait for the 7200RPM - Again HD's can be changed easily changed by user when there is a 7200 rpm available.



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Anyone wanna pay for this ?? LOL : Unless DELL is ok with you swapping memory on your own (I THINK NOT) then you are going to be paying enormous amounts, ridiculous sum IMO, for the RAM
This is incorrect. DELL is fine with users changing memory on their own and give you instructions in the USER guide on how to do this. With regard to the cost - There are no 1GB SODIMMS available for laptops at the moment so the current MAX in a laptop is 1GB of Memory. With regard to cost the price for laptop memory from places like crucial or kingston are not that expensive these days - Both companies are known to produce some of the best memory in the world. eg Today 512mb SoDimm is round about $149.00 after discounts. I always buy my laptops with minimum memory from the laptop seller and get my memory cheaper from crucial

I think most laptop companies will be going with the Pentium M class processor - agreed the performance will not really be as good as a desktop 3.0 HT however if you look at the fastest available Pentium M 1.6ghz which is performing the same as a 2.4 Ghz DESKTOP processor combined with 5 hour battery life they are pretty amazing - I think we will see 2.0Ghz Pentium M's by the end of the year performing the same as a 2.8 Ghz Desktop if not greater.

With the new M10 which produces very low heat compared to the 4200 go and Radeon 9000 I will not be suprised to see a Laptop as thin and as light as Toshiba Portege with a M10 and 2.0ghz Pentium M under the hood - Lovely.
post #43 of 63
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performing the same as a 2.4 Ghz DESKTOP processor combined with 5 hour battery life they are pretty amazing

NO WAY! When on battery it declocks itself to 600mhz, it would be slow as a 1.5ghz with the battery if even that. Im surprised it could even open photoshop LOL. Now if it was at 1.6ghz while on battery at get 4 hours I would be impressed but it declocks to 600mhz? Screw that

if we did the same on sagers we would hit near 3 hours easy with 1 battery
post #44 of 63
Hey! i could use photoshop on my little 750 mhz pentium 3 m notebook! with 128 sdram!
post #45 of 63

9200

According to hardocp.com, a Best Buy spy has said the Mobility 9200 is due out 4/20/03, so this may give us a good idea where ATI stands on it's new graphics cards. The 9600 should be due in May.
post #46 of 63
I have some benchmarks of the 9600 non pro from hardocp

extremely amazing results with this one, check it out asap
post #47 of 63
Thread Starter 
With Nvidia shipping their new graphics chip in the Toshiba laptop next month, that should definately put the pressure on ATI with the Mobility 9600. Can you believe that for a small window of time, Nvidia will actually have the 3 fastest mobile chips on the market? The 4200 Go, 5200 Go, and the 5600 Go. I cant see ATI waiting much longer than May to retake the lead...
Also, with AMD recently disclosing that they moved up the release of the 3200 XP processor with 400FSB, that should put the pressure on Intel with the release of the Sprindale & Canterwood chipsets.
I am going to bet that the release of the Sager's with the 9600 Pro and 800FSB will come in June at the latest. I am only guessing, well ok hoping...but its looking more like sooner rather than later.
post #48 of 63
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Originally posted by hayesb2
With Nvidia shipping their new graphics chip in the Toshiba laptop next month, that should definately put the pressure on ATI with the Mobility 9600. Can you believe that for a small window of time, Nvidia will actually have the 3 fastest mobile chips on the market? The 4200 Go, 5200 Go, and the 5600 Go. I cant see ATI waiting much longer than May to retake the lead...
Also, with AMD recently disclosing that they moved up the release of the 3200 XP processor with 400FSB, that should put the pressure on Intel with the release of the Sprindale & Canterwood chipsets.
I am going to bet that the release of the Sager's with the 9600 Pro and 800FSB will come in June at the latest. I am only guessing, well ok hoping...but its looking more like sooner rather than later.
Don't think you are the only one to bet this... well, most of us are hoping, and several are "betting" by holding out on their purchase.

The rest of us just hope there is a reasonable upgrade path for our 888x series.

-myrkat
post #49 of 63
Har har im betting too!
post #50 of 63

Honestly...

I am looking at June and wondering - WOW!!

Nvidia will have taken up a lot of customers by then - ATI will surely do something earlier than that.

How about May?? Most likely May...
post #51 of 63
Thread Starter 
Yes I agree. I said June "at the latest"...I think beginning of May is when we will start seeing the 9600 appear in laptops. ATI simply cannot afford to wait much longer than that without giving up part of their market share..
post #52 of 63
It would be nice if the next 88xx iteration from clevo would have a socketed video card.. oh well if not at least the upgrade option is a strong possibility although i am waiting till the m10 comes on an 888x
post #53 of 63
LOL

I already knew the m10 would be out in may but I was talking about sager

Time will tell when its out for sager, GOD PLEASE let there be a M10Pro option when its out for the sager laptops

adam do something!! lol

*sniffs* hey do you people smell that, it smells like 110 fps in UT2k3 at 1600x1200 at max detail w/out aa/af

post #54 of 63
The MR9600Pro is the M10 right?

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I am going to bet that the release of the Sager's with the 9600 Pro and 800FSB will come in June at the latest. I am only guessing, well ok hoping...but its looking more like sooner rather than later.
Man, I hope that works out!
post #55 of 63
They have a pro and non pro atbear

the non pro's clocked a lot lower than the pro, the major difference is the ram.

pro version should be clocked 50 or 75mhz higher for the core/ram. The pro will be able to oc the ram a lot further than the non pro since it uses GDDR2-M type ram that runs a lot cooler and sustains higher frequencies than the non pro.

Dont get me wrong go look at the benchmarks for the non pro, its a WICKED card. Also dont let the dual benchmarks I posted fool you, the other people that benchmarked the card ran it at higher resolutions or with a slower system than the latest benchmark I posted which is called (Amazing results with 9600 non pro).

the test systems as close to the future parts that will be used in the sagers as I can find. Sure the numbers for the people that own a m9 should "almost" double but the 2100 ram and not owning a laptop with 3.06ht will slow it down a lil but as I said mostly everyones benchmarks/games should run double the speed that the m9 runs them at depending on if they upgrade to the m10.
post #56 of 63
according to my source at sager.... the m10s should be out in may.




..also no plans for a centrino notebook at the moment (unless there is a huge demand) and they have no clue on the 800mhz fsb, so we will have to wait on that one.
post #57 of 63

neo

Whose your source? And, what iteration will they be in Sager's? In the 5670? A new series? Pro or non-Pro? Can you get us some more info?
post #58 of 63
Thread Starter 
Who is your source at Sager that told you this?
post #59 of 63

Hee hee

No one names their sources unless they are absolutely TOP-LEVEL. People can lose their jobs for giving out information like this or info of any kind.
When you get info - take it any way you like and use your judgement - stop asking for proof and details about the source and other unnecessary info. I have sources in Intel, Microsoft and nVidia (no use now ) but they have all (except for Intel who is TOP LEVEL) requested anonymity in whatever way I use the information.
So rbf and hayesb2 - the source is important because you want to know how reliable the information is - but to the source it is important that his name doesnt show up all over the place.

Lets just leave it at that...

I was questioned by my boss about certain comments I made on this forums - they have people actively searching for potential leaks. They just gave me a warning and let me off the hook - Just to let you know that this is no joke...
post #60 of 63
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NeoTechPC
COUGH UP THE DETAILS OR ELSE

me and dah boys are gonna have to get the information and the hard way ya see

*sound of knuckles crackling*









lol jk
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