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post #61 of 135
4/13/08 at 1:06pm
Glad everything is working for you, HH. Sounds like you'll be having some fun!
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post #62 of 135
4/14/08 at 3:29am
Looking forward to pix Hammerhead. Happy to hear you got the P2 up and running first time...well almost.

Do hope you continue to post about this mobo and your settings/experiences. Know you are having fun!



Zoid
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post #63 of 135
4/14/08 at 7:37am
Great to hear all is running well.

Are you ready to try to OC?

If so, download the latest versions of CoreTemp, Prime95, and CPUz.

You should be able to boot into BIOS, leave all voltages on AUTO, and increase your FSB to 450. You have a 9x multi on that E8400. 450 FSB = 4.05ghz.

If it fails to boot into the OS with vCore cet to AUTO, reset CMOS, boot into BIOS again, and play around with vCore. From what I've read, 1.25 to 1.29 seem to be median range for 4.0.

After you boot into Windows, load up CoreTemp and run Prime for a few hours (4-10).

Edit: XS has a great thread on the E8400 here.
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post #64 of 135
4/14/08 at 3:51pm
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Looking forward to pix Hammerhead. Happy to hear you got the P2 up and running first time...well almost.
I mis-wrote/mis-spoke before, it's a predator 1.5, old school case. Not the new one...

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Do hope you continue to post about this mobo and your settings/experiences. Know you are having fun!



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Coming soon...
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post #65 of 135
4/14/08 at 3:57pm
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Great to hear all is running well.

Are you ready to try to OC?

If so, download the latest versions of CoreTemp, Prime95, and CPUz.

You should be able to boot into BIOS, leave all voltages on AUTO, and increase your FSB to 450. You have a 9x multi on that E8400. 450 FSB = 4.05ghz.

If it fails to boot into the OS with vCore cet to AUTO, reset CMOS, boot into BIOS again, and play around with vCore. From what I've read, 1.25 to 1.29 seem to be median range for 4.0.

After you boot into Windows, load up CoreTemp and run Prime for a few hours (4-10).

Edit: XS has a great thread on the E8400 here.
Thanks Buck, I've played with it a bit but not much... I have to figure out the memory settings before I push too far. I'm an OC newb, so I don't know how to OC the cpu/fsb without pushing other components past their limits...

Did you set your memory to 1066, or auto in the bios?

And unfortunately, I did load some of the programs from Asus' website. I understood the newer versions of the apps for OC worked, but they don't agree with my system... I'll get the programs you listed.

I did the auto step up to E8500 (3.16G) and it did fine, but the memory kicked down to some funky speed that didn't make sense. The cpu hasn't gone past 40 degrees though, five 80mm intake fans, and the psu/120mm exhaust really move the air...
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post #66 of 135
4/14/08 at 8:23pm
I'm serious, so far I've left everything on auto...with the exception of FSB and vCore. (I did disable all of the green features).
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post #67 of 135
4/14/08 at 9:23pm
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My asus software is telling me the cpu is @ 35 deg at the same time core temp is telling me it's 47 deg... grrr...
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post #68 of 135
4/14/08 at 10:44pm
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Didn't like 450 fsb on auto, it did take 400 easily on auto for 3.6 G.

It's running p95 right now @ 425 fsb/3.825G @ 1.272V. Doesn't look like I got one of the great ones, but not bad so far.

EDIT: Wasn't able to get it stable at 4.05G. It was running at 1.328V, but p95 shut down after round off errors. Couldn't get the blue screen to stay so I could read it. Not sure if it's the processor, or memory, or North Bridge. Not ready to start bumping voltages though, so I'm going to see how it does at 3.825G for a bit.

The cores never went above 62 deg C w/ core temp, lower than that with the asus stuff... How do you know what temps to rely on?

It is rock solid at 3.825G @ 1.3 volts.
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post #69 of 135
4/15/08 at 12:41am
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Buck, would you mind some tutoring? email might be best.

I'm looking at the OCZ memory specs, and it says 2.1V, the rampage sets the voltage to 1.8 standard... Should the memory voltage be bumped? I also noticed most of the guys in the string you linked me to bumped the north bridge voltage up to about 1.4, where I left it standard...

My concern is that the voltage on the cpu doesn't seem to matter on stability, I pushed it to 3.7+volts, and at 4.05G it wouldn't pass p95 torture test. Windows shut down the program though, it wasn't giving test errors. I got one shut down due to round off error, but the rest of the time I get a windows error saying the program has malfunctioned, and windows is shutting it down. I'm wondering if my memory or the NB needs more juice... I don't want to push it at this point though, as I'm not real happy about air flow around the NB. I was going to use the optional fan, but they said not to with air cooling. The Zalman doesn't really blow air around the NB though, it blows out the exhaust fan...
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post #70 of 135
4/15/08 at 12:58am


ooops sorry, guess you're directing your posts to Buck.

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post #71 of 135
4/15/08 at 1:59am
HH - I use the optional fan when on air ... it did help.

If I'm reading your posts right, everything is running fine until you try overclocking??
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post #72 of 135
4/15/08 at 2:34am
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ooops sorry, guess you're directing your posts to Buck.
If you have some input, feel free to put it in Zelly...
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post #73 of 135
4/15/08 at 2:40am
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HH - I use the optional fan when on air ... it did help.

If I'm reading your posts right, everything is running fine until you try overclocking??
Yeah, it's fine up till about 3.8G, then I'm having stability issues. This is without adjusting anything but the fsb and cpu voltage. I just ran p95 for two hours at 3.825G with no errors.

Most of the strings I've read about the E8400 also adjust the memory and north bridge voltages when they get close to 4G, so it sounds like my processor is about average.

Some are lucky though, like Buck, and can just change the fsb and everything works fine at 4.05G on stock settings and auto voltage.

@ 3.825G, the temp of the processor don't go past 62 deg, so I don't think it's the processor that's causing the issues. I suspect memory. The OCZ website says my memory should run from 2.1V to 2.3V, but the Rampage board sets standard voltages to 1.8, so that's probably where I'll start.

The NB is at 1.25 V, most people that get up to 4G bump the voltage up to about 1.4, so I'll have to try that too.

Anyway, a stable 3.8G 45nm core 2 duo processor for $209 ain't bad...
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post #74 of 135
4/15/08 at 2:41am
welp your ram timings and voltage, set to auto with an asus board, normally are wrong, and undervolted. Same thing with my p5w dh deluxe, it tries to run my memory on auto at 1.8 whereas it wants 2.2v. Set it to manual, find out the timings from ocz and change those for starters...
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post #75 of 135
4/15/08 at 3:31am
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welp your ram timings and voltage, set to auto with an asus board, normally are wrong, and undervolted. Same thing with my p5w dh deluxe, it tries to run my memory on auto at 1.8 whereas it wants 2.2v. Set it to manual, find out the timings from ocz and change those for starters...
That's what I thought... OCZ says 2.1 Volts, Asus sets it at 1.8. That'll make a big difference most likely.

The other part is the nb and sb voltages. Most people pushing 4G with the E8400 bump those as well.

Thanks Zelly.
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post #76 of 135
4/15/08 at 3:41am
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...it's a predator 1.5, old school case...
Oh man, was counting on seeing a P2 in your stable Hammerhead. Looks like you're putting the machine thru a work out already!!!



Zoid
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post #77 of 135
4/15/08 at 4:00am
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Oh man, was counting on seeing a P2 in your stable Hammerhead. Looks like you're putting the machine thru a work out already!!!



Zoid
I'll get a P2 once the nehalem processors are out...
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post #78 of 135
4/15/08 at 4:11am
That's exactly what I said, except it was Penryn...that only took a year and some.

Once you have the Rampage all figured out I'll just copy what you did! Didja try the manual RAM timings and voltage yet?



Zoid
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post #79 of 135
4/15/08 at 4:48am
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Yep...

The Asus defaults were 1.8V, and 5-5-5-15 for the memory. OCZ lists 2.1V, and 5-5-5-18 for the 2G sticks I bought.

Reset the timings, and it booted right up with fsb @ 450, which is 4.05G.

Been running prime95 for a bit, we'll see in a couple more hours...
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post #80 of 135
4/15/08 at 5:04am
What version BIOS?



Zoid
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