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post #21 of 65
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Originally Posted by wardo View Post
hey fenuxx, i don't care if you kick me from this forum, there are many other forums out there. so you can take your warning and stuff it in your ass... i am tired of these dirtbags, so **** you too!

PS he fenuxx, instead of getting on the honest people, why don't you give warnings to the douchebags that create these post and are Blatantly trying to rip off Dell?? maybe give these idiots a special "let's rip off Dell" thread?? IDIOTS!!!!
post #22 of 65
Lol
post #23 of 65
Thread Starter 
ouch i guess the admins on this forum scare easy
post #24 of 65
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Originally Posted by mrkool View Post
ouch i guess the admins on this forum scare easy
its not about scaring easily, its about blatant fraud that people seem to think is okay to attempt to pull off. this forum like prettymuch every other one out there cannot condone that. on top of that in this sort of situation which i have seen dozens of times people not having any respect for a mod is only going to end badly for them. seriously all it would have taken is nobody blowing their cool and just taking the warning like a man. doesnt need much.

although i do think a thread dedicated to attempts to rip off dell would be funny, sort of a point and laugh at the stupid bad idea situation, and really kool, you have basically zero chance of getting dell to give you what you want, let it go and move on. best suggestion is if you really want a 1730 to go and sell the replacement they give you and then buy a 1730 with the money from the sale and some of your own, sometimes you can pull a great deal at the outlet.

also remember if you upgrade keep the original parts, if you have to send it back to dell you put them back in and pull your upgraded ones. those are worth some extra money to you if you sell them on the open market (assuming they are not horribly out of date) and can fund new upgrade parts for the next machine. that way you never lose in the future.
post #25 of 65
These forums have become a breeding ground for the most pointless threads ever.
What will dell replace my "broken" laptop with?
How can I get dell to give me upgraded parts?
Lets see what else more I can get from dell?
Look at what I conned dell into giving me as a replacement.

Give it a rest people

I only check back every now cause there might be a useful thread like the one regarding the fx3500 and m1710.
post #26 of 65
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Originally Posted by DesertFox View Post
These forums have become a breeding ground for the most pointless threads ever.
What will dell replace my "broken" laptop with?
How can I get dell to give me upgraded parts?
Lets see what else more I can get from dell?
Look at what I conned dell into giving me as a replacement.

Give it a rest people

I only check back every now cause there might be a useful thread like the one regarding the fx3500 and m1710.
Thank you for sharing fox, i will pass the opinion on to those in positions that can make a decision
post #27 of 65
Most definitely a 1720 replacement is in order.

As to the question of DVI over VGA. It's a non issue if your monitor has a decent Analog to digital converter in it. The only trouble you encounter with VGA is that you have to adjust the display for best quality. My 2005FPW has no discernible difference between VGA and DVI once VGA has been properly adjusted. My 32" LCD TV has no difference between my HTPC on VGA and my Xbox 360 running at 720p (the computer runs at 1366x768). I don't have any personal experience on screens with higher res than 1680x1050 though.

The fact of the matter remains that 95% of the Inspiron buying public could care less about what monitor output their laptop has because they are like "What do I need a monitor for? I got an LCD right here." Which is why Dell omitted it from the newer Inspiron systems. A DVI-I port would have been nicer and Dell could have tossed in a DVI to VGA adapter for those that don't have a DVI capable monitor, but that's more expense than they would care to go to.

Heck, every single XPS 700 series I've worked on that was used with a single monitor had BOTH the VGA and the DVI cables hooked up at the same time by the stupid owner and the monitor was on VGA input.
post #28 of 65
FFS....this replacement sh1t is really out of control........is it a bunch of momma's boys populating this place these days or what


Steve,Yoob,Shaun,Laura,Djembe, do something about this cancerous crap will you....its becoming really old,really fast,and I'm sick to death of reading it as is obviously a few others
post #29 of 65
I remember when the 9200s where around you maybe could of gotten a XPS. However today is different. Like systems in there mind is about what you had, plus what line are in (ie XPS for XPS and Inspiron for Inspiron). There maybe, maybe a slight chance of you getting one, but its a long shot now.

The point that I am trying to make is this: "don't look a gift horse in the mouth"

I know you will not be happy with the video card, so sell the replacement and use that money to get a outlet XPS. Heck even part out your existing one and sell the other components.

To be honest though - if my 9300 breaks down tomorrow I would be happy to get a 1720.... Its a upgrade, except for the video card, but I don't use that machine now - my finance does.

Also, I do agree - the "what do I get for a replacement" is out of control. However you have to consider people just don't know.... I asked this question cause I wasn't 100% sure, and for the most part I still am not. That why I asked all the questions I did and filled up the front page with new threads (until they were combined). However don't ask that question if your laptop is not broken and you are trying to screw dell. Cause in the end, you are screwing all of us, and to be perfectly honest...you don't want to do that

I respect the admins and et al. Don't screw with them, they are just doing there job. You don't start cursing at a police officer for giving you a speed ticket, right?
post #30 of 65
Believe me when I say that I'm going to pass this message along to the "big dogs" of the forum. This is why I'm one of the Dell moderators, so you guys can come to me with these issues.

Wardo was temp-banned for 7 days for losing it, in all simplicity. I discussed it with other high-ups, and we came to the conclusion that he needed a chill period.

I will state this now: If you have an issue with someone's post, stay out of it, if you're going to loose your cool. If it bothers you, report it to a Moderator (me, or any of the other Moderators of the Dell section), send a PM, use the "Report Post" button. This is the same exact thing I told wardo when I placed the temp-ban.

Again, I am going to personally bring this issue to the high-ups, and see how they want it dealt with. Once a conclusive decision has been made, I will notify everyone in this section.
post #31 of 65
Thread Starter 
Well i dont think we should be putting a ban on the question people ask. If you have a problem with the question just dont click the thread and read something else. Just like TV you dont have to watch all the channels if you dont like something just change the channel.

Well i think the problem here could be the rating system, reputation and the post count. People get in other people business just to increase their post count for one reason or another.


also i cant seem to find the vga to dvi converter that everyone keeps mentioning? there is a dvi to vga bec you are going from digital to analog but how can you do vga 9analog) to dvi (digital)?
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post #33 of 65
I don't think it is about conning dell, I think it is about Dell doing what is right. When I bought my e1705 I bought the 4yr warranty, and the 4 year complete care. Since I bought it, I have had 2 batteries replaced, 1 keyboard, 1 mobo, 1 set of speakers, 2 power adapters, 1 dvdrw, 1 lcd, and maybe something else i am forgetting. I know need another new battery, so instead they decided to switch my whole computer. All of these problems in 16 months time, frankly I feel I am owed an upgrade, not a computer that will not even have dvi out when i just purchased a 1080p lcd for this computer. Sure, technically dell does not have to give me anything other than what I have now, but with all of the problems I have endured frankly I think that a good customer service department would understand my feelings, and maybe throw me a bone for being a loyal customer. I never demanded a new computer not even this time, dell offered it to me.
post #34 of 65
Thread Starter 
thanks SPEED i am not sure why i could not find one when i did the search on google but any way do you know if the VGA to DVI will work with my 30" Dell LCD?
post #35 of 65
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Originally Posted by byrdgang View Post
I don't think it is about conning dell, I think it is about Dell doing what is right. When I bought my e1705 I bought the 4yr warranty, and the 4 year complete care. Since I bought it, I have had 2 batteries replaced, 1 keyboard, 1 mobo, 1 set of speakers, 2 power adapters, 1 dvdrw, 1 lcd, and maybe something else i am forgetting. I know need another new battery, so instead they decided to switch my whole computer. All of these problems in 16 months time, frankly I feel I am owed an upgrade, not a computer that will not even have dvi out when i just purchased a 1080p lcd for this computer. Sure, technically dell does not have to give me anything other than what I have now, but with all of the problems I have endured frankly I think that a good customer service department would understand my feelings, and maybe throw me a bone for being a loyal customer. I never demanded a new computer not even this time, dell offered it to me.
the key there is that they do not OWE you anything other than a replacement of what you have now. that does not mean an upgrade. there is zero obligation to dell to give anyone buying an inspiron an upgrade to an xps, if they do great, you got really lucky, if not there should not be complaining about not getting what you want.

like any other business if you dont like their customer service you can always vote with your money the next time it comes to purchase a system, but then again i dont think i can name a single manufacturer who would give that kind of upgrade.

a contract is a contract, and a warranty is a contract in this case for them to provide a replacement when certain conditions are met, it is not a contract for them to give you or anyone else free upgrades worth thousands of dollars just because you dont like the replacement that is equal (if not better) than the system you had before. and it may piss people off but thats the plain and simple of it.
post #36 of 65
Sounds like a "dog" or "puppy" to me... a bone?

Do the right thing guys, and teach your next generation the right way. What ever you do, people is learning. If you are not happy with Dell's product, don't deal with Dell again. If you continue to deal with it because you want to take the advange of free stuffs, then the problem wasn't Dell.
post #37 of 65
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Originally Posted by Fidget View Post
the key there is that they do not OWE you anything other than a replacement of what you have now. that does not mean an upgrade. there is zero obligation to dell to give anyone buying an inspiron an upgrade to an xps, if they do great, you got really lucky, if not there should not be complaining about not getting what you want.

like any other business if you dont like their customer service you can always vote with your money the next time it comes to purchase a system, but then again i dont think i can name a single manufacturer who would give that kind of upgrade.

a contract is a contract, and a warranty is a contract in this case for them to provide a replacement when certain conditions are met, it is not a contract for them to give you or anyone else free upgrades worth thousands of dollars just because you dont like the replacement that is equal (if not better) than the system you had before. and it may piss people off but thats the plain and simple of it.

That is what I just said. Dell owes me nothing but an equal replacement. It is just in my opinion that good customer service would give a person like me who never once requested a new system and went through multiple problems something for all their problems. They are not obligated to do this, but to me it is good business. If you throw your system down some stairs in hope of getting a better system of course I do not support that. Technically though, if I wanted to be a stickler a computer with a dvi port is an equal replacement, not one with only vga. IF they want to give me another e1705 I am fine with that. Again to me in certain circumstances it just seems to be the right thing to do to give a customer and upgrade. If they choose not to, that is on them, and that is the way they choose to do business.

To the last poster, I have nothing to say to you, as you are just trying to be an asshole, as I am sure you have heard the common American term "throw me a bone" before, typical for those from orange county.
post #38 of 65
I pay for what I wanted, I guess that is different from some of you.

BTW, I am just refering to the general term of ethic and do the right thing. I was not point at anybody.

There are reasons why Dell was the #1 diret retailer on PC. They offer good policy for their clients. What Dell offer is much better than any other PC retailer company offered. I guess some of you have not yet experience issue with Toshiba, HP, Sony and others, then you will know Dell is good. I hate to see ppl abuse the policy and force that policy to change.

I am sorry if I offended you, but keep the "words" to yourself or your family, not others. And plz don't tell me that is the common American term of language.
post #39 of 65
Dell, like many other companies DO have a forced upgrade policy.

However, some people mistake this (or want to take advantage of) as an I automatically deserve something better because I am so special that I deserve it.

The only time a company gives an upgraded part is when they run out of the particular part your system originally came with. For example, the original 120GB HDD died and they only carry 250GB HDD now.

The only time they replace or upgrade systems is when:

- Original system went back various times for repair. They will give you a brand new system of the same type if they still make it. Otherwise, they will give you an equivalent system or the next best thing.

- Original system is no longer made or a major component in it is no longer available. Certain parts such as the motherboard fall into this example.

All of this, of course, while the system is under warranty.

They are not responsible for the third party parts you purchased either, that is something they did not provide and they do not have to take responsibility for them.

Would you like me to try and pull a fast one on you?

Say you sell me your old Honda to buy a Jaguar but the Honda breaks and I demand you give me the Jag in exchange plus your TV?

OR I add stuff to the Honda and demand my money back PLUS what I paid for the stuff I added?

Grow up please, you got what you paid for and you are bound by a contract, nowhere it says that they are obligated to automatically give you something better everytime something breaks.

Scamming is scamming, plain and simple and you can get into trouble trying to pull a fast one.
post #40 of 65
Also, something to keep in mind is that most people's definition of "upgrade" (every single aspect of the computer is equal or better than the previous one) is typically not Dell's definition. For them, a system with a more recent series CPU, GPU and chipset is a perfectly reasonable upgrade. They don't measure upgrades in terms of performance or feature to feature matching, and it's one of those things that's good to know for the future.
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