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post #21 of 24
"The architecture and technology behind the platform goes far beyond what we're able to print, but the main point to convey is that the Pentium-M is not a Pentium III and not a Pentium 4, it's something very new and very different. " - anandtech
post #22 of 24
Please note the difference between the article you cite and the one on Ars technica.
The anandtech one offers an opinion but and only a few facts.
Ars is mainly about facts and only a few opinions.
post #23 of 24
how is anandtech opinionated and not based on facts when their review has schematics of p-m's architecture... benchmark tests... and hands on analysis/review



"Banias' dedicated stack manager is another power saving tool integrated into the Banias architecture that is designed to manage stack pointers and other stack-related data. Remember that stacks are used to store information about the current state of the CPU including data that cannot be kept in registers due to limits in the number of available registers, thus a dedicated manager can help performance considerably. As usual, whenever efficiency is improved power consumption is optimized which is the case with Banias here as well."


"Despite having a 20 - 50% longer pipeline, Banias still maintains a significantly higher IPC than the Pentium III, which is not an insignificant achievement. Remember from our discussions about the Pentium 4 that IPC (Instructions executed Per Clock) is generally reduced by moving to a longer pipeline, but is made up for by the fact that longer pipeline architectures can reach higher clock speeds. With Banias, we have an architecture that already has a longer pipeline than the Pentium III, thus enabling higher clock speeds, all while boasting a higher IPC - you're in fact getting the best of both worlds with Banias"


"What's most impressive about Banias' caches is its 1MB on-die L2 cache. Not only did the Israel design team carefully design the transistors that make up the gates within the cache to maximize power savings, but they also changed the way data is actually accessed within the cache. Banias employs an 8-way set associative L2 cache, and normally in such a cache when one of the "ways" is selected, the entire block is selected. With Banias, each "way" is further split into quadrants so that when one is selected, a separate multiplexer selects which quadrant the necessary data is located in and only activates that part of the cache. The end result is that much less of the power hungry L2 cache is consuming battery life, which helps extend that battery life significantly. "


"In order to feed the higher IPC execution core, Intel outfitted the Banias with a 64-bit 100MHz quad-pumped FSB, identical in design to the Pentium 4's FSB. The Banias' FSB is even electrically compatible to the Pentium 4's FSB, which is why any Pentium 4 chipset is able to interface with the chip as we saw at IDF with this E7501/Banias setup"

"If you're picking up on the fact that Banias is significantly different from the Pentium III, then you're on the right track…"



this article was written 13 months ago and anandtech was one of the first to get their hands on the p-m b4 anyone else...
post #24 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bjorn
Please note the difference between the article you cite and the one on Ars technica.
The anandtech one offers an opinion but and only a few facts.
Ars is mainly about facts and only a few opinions.
Both articles cover the architechture of the P-M pretty well. Anandtech goes a step further and offers thier opinion on how significant the enhancements are. I believe this is where we disagree. You regard them as minor tweaks to a P3 core and I feel they are much more. The anandtech article supports my interpretation. The article you cited pretty much presents all the features, and leaves you to come up with your own conclusions on how significant the new features are. If you can find something that supports your assertion that the P-M is nothing more than a P3 with minor tweaks, please present. If not, we will have to agree to disagree on this.

BTW, I dont feel bolting a turbo on a car is a 'trivial change' either. Oh yeah, one more thing...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bjorn
The CORE is the same. The article is quite detailed and plain on that. This is not the only source of this info. The changes to the CORE are relatively speaking very minor.
This kinda tripped me up because it appears to are saying two things here. The CORE is the same... with changes?
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