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M6n Dothan review

post #1 of 28
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Hey, after a long search myself for an M6, I also bought from ProPortable.com thanks "NoLimit"
Their resellerratings are sky high and their knowledge is amazing. I just found this review, it's running a dothan and it's using the intel b/g wifi card.

http://proportable.g2.cc/m6n_review.jpg

By the way, the guys over at proportable said that they can help people with any issues regarding the M6 or any other asus based notebook. They don't care who you bought it from. The big thing is they said the 15.1 screens shouldn't doing what everyone says they can probably get them swapped out for you. Good guys.

Steve
post #2 of 28
Check the link ... it's broken or it got pulled.
post #3 of 28
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post #4 of 28
hm... didn't expect much... and battery life is disappointing...
post #5 of 28
Cool. Thanks.
post #6 of 28
Battery: 3.08 hours or battery life... I get better then that on my AMD64.
Weight: The weight is comparible 6.9 v 7.5
3d: slower then my eMachines m6805.
CPU: probably around more then 1/3 slower then the AMD64.
Wireless: slower then when I get. At 25 feet I get 48-50Mbps, vs. 12.1 @ only 5 feet.
Smaller screen (15.1 v. 15.4)
The card reader does not support the industry standard which is CF, and so is useless.
The system lacks a firewire port.
The m6n has inferior sound (compared to the M680x).

And the real kicker is it is nearly twice the price.

Why bother?
post #7 of 28
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Battery: 3.08 hours or battery life... I get better then that on my AMD64.
You get that much with everything turned down and the CPU down-throttled, the screen dimmed, doing office apps.
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3d: slower then my eMachines m6805.
You are comparing an overclocked video system to a stock system.
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CPU: probably around more then 1/3 slower then the AMD64.
You got confirmation on this? Please don't state things you don't know about. This is the Dothan.
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Smaller screen (15.1 v. 15.4)
Ummm....wrong! 15.1inch screen is bigger.
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The card reader does not support the industry standard which is CF, and so is useless.
Umm...heard of PC Card slot? It's perfect for CompactFlash with an adapter, which is why some card readers choose not to include CF.
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The system lacks a firewire port.
Yes, it does have a firewire port.
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The m6n has inferior sound (compared to the M680x).
I'll take your word on that one.
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And the real kicker is it is nearly twice the price.
That's due to the reseller. Just wait until esctech comes out with the proc.
post #8 of 28
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Originally Posted by Bjorn
Battery: 3.08 hours or battery life... I get better then that on my AMD64.
Weight: The weight is comparible 6.9 v 7.5
3d: slower then my eMachines m6805.
CPU: probably around more then 1/3 slower then the AMD64.
Wireless: slower then when I get. At 25 feet I get 48-50Mbps, vs. 12.1 @ only 5 feet.
Smaller screen (15.1 v. 15.4)
The card reader does not support the industry standard which is CF, and so is useless.
The system lacks a firewire port.
The m6n has inferior sound (compared to the M680x).

And the real kicker is it is nearly twice the price.

Why bother?
hm... if I was choosing between those two I would still go with asus... first of all it's emachines second of all their looks are pretty dull if you ask me
post #9 of 28
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Originally Posted by klas
hm... if I was choosing between those two I would still go with asus... first of all it's emachines second of all their looks are pretty dull if you ask me
Perfect reasoning. Excellent rational. You want the expensive but slow one because it's prettier.

Dude take a look, they both look very generic. One is faster and costs over a grand less.
post #10 of 28
Why get all bent out of shape?

I'm sure it's occurred to most of us that it's probably fake.

If it's still that price around May 10th, THEN we can get bent out of shape.
post #11 of 28
Thread Starter 
The cpu, hard drive, ram and warranty is obviously where the expense comes from.

-1.8 dothan -- pricey because it's the cream of the crop
-7200rpm, 60gb drive.. mine is a hitachi --- not cheap
-the ram is pretty sweet.. the performance ram is what apple is using in their powerbooks.... the model number actaully brings up apple powerbook g4 on kingstons site
-the review isn't fake.. it's not released I know that. They've got the same sort of review for the M5 that has been on their site for a few weeks now and that just came to me today in this months issue of LAPTOP....
-don't know how they got the dothan cpu though.

-they have been able to answer all of my questions and even asus suggested them first out of anyone else...

steve
post #12 of 28
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Originally Posted by deltawalkerl
You get that much with everything turned down and the CPU down-throttled, the screen dimmed, doing office apps.
So? They were using the same methodology to arrive at their 3.08 hours, I'm sure. This is the standard method for refering to battery run time. The Pentium-M (such as in the Asus) throttle down even further.

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Originally Posted by deltawalkerl
You are comparing an overclocked video system to a stock system.
Nope stock v. stock, although the difference is trivial. Prerhaps not so trivial if you buy the slightly more costly m6809 w/ the 3200+

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Originally Posted by deltawalkerl
You got confirmation on this? Please don't state things you don't know about. This is the Dothan.
Actually this part was pretty much smack talk. I suspect the A64 will be significantly faster, but do not know. I suspect that once Win64 is released this performance delta will be even more significant. This is just a 1.8ghz chip. It has a larger cache, but is only 5% faster clock rate. The 1.7P-M is around a p4 2.55 equivalent. The 1.8dothan will be faster then this, but not alot. Perhaps as much as a 2.8, more likely around a 2.7 (but just guesses based on math not testing). This compares poorly to the emachines which match or beat P4's at 3.0 and 3.2 (6805 or 6809).

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Originally Posted by deltawalkerl
Ummm....wrong! 15.1inch screen is bigger.
15.1 is larger then 15.4 how?

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Originally Posted by deltawalkerl
Umm...heard of PC Card slot? It's perfect for CompactFlash with an adapter, which is why some card readers choose not to include CF.
This sort of logic is just so flawed I don't know where to go with rebutting it.
Why have any card reader at all?

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Originally Posted by deltawalkerl
Yes, it does have a firewire port.
I missed that.

The point is, that no matter how you choose to bicker about this little detail or that, the m6805 is marginally to significantly faster, longer running, better wireless, more capable, as good or better at any task and for around 1/2 the price. I seriously doubt other reputable merchants will sell this unit for 1/2 the price of this offering.
And if they come down 20-40% in price, you'd still be paying more for less.
post #13 of 28
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Ah, I can help with that....

First, they ran mobile mark without powergear (the powersaving software) - mobile mark runs the system all out.... so 3 hours w/ a 1.8 and 7200rpm drive under mobile mark is pretty good. I can even get 5 hours with the powersaving software and I've got a 1.7 w/ 7200rpm drive.

The screen... I think it was Justin at proportable who explained it to me....
the 15.1 right now is SXGA+
the 15.4 is only WXGA (WSXGA+ coming in the summer)

The 15.4 he said was like 1/2" wider ... but it was like 1" shorter....

So, technically you lose screen space........ not to mention the lesser resolution.. but you are talking about physical size and so am I.....

steve
post #14 of 28
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Originally Posted by MrBoston4831
The cpu, hard drive, ram and warranty is obviously where the expense comes from.

-1.8 dothan -- pricey because it's the cream of the crop
-7200rpm, 60gb drive.. mine is a hitachi --- not cheap
-the ram is pretty sweet.. the performance ram is what apple is using in their powerbooks.... the model number actaully brings up apple powerbook g4 on kingstons site
-the review isn't fake.. it's not released I know that. They've got the same sort of review for the M5 that has been on their site for a few weeks now and that just came to me today in this months issue of LAPTOP....
-don't know how they got the dothan cpu though.

-they have been able to answer all of my questions and even asus suggested them first out of anyone else...

steve
I'm sure they're very nice. They seem to be paid rather well to be so nice.
You can get the same performance for a far lower cost. I can't tell you how to spend your money, but it might be worth it to consider your options. Because, no matter how you justify the price... it is too much for what you get.
For over a grand more then my system you should not be slightly slower, or less capable. You should have a system that was clearly superior.
Perhaps as superguy and deltawalker suggested waiting 3-4 weeks would be worth it in this case. (not that it will shrink far enough by then in my opinion)
post #15 of 28
I checked and
a 15.1 is 12 x 9 inches.
a 15.4 is 13.06 x 8.162

So a 15.4 is more then an inch wider and less then an inch shorter (compared to a 15.1)

But the 15.1 is slightly larger 108 square inches vs. 106.6, which makes it 1.2962% larger.
post #16 of 28
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was that the screen on the M6?

Because the m6 uses the same case for both screens, so techically the black bezel on the 15.1" m.6 is the difference in width's..... I'm pretty positive.
post #17 of 28
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the other thing is you can't even begin to compare p4's and p-m's..... and certainly not based on a cpu that isn't out yet.....
post #18 of 28
No the screen was the one on my m6805.

With reguards to CPUs.. You can compare anything to anything.

CPUs are all about work done over a period of time.

Now we know what the dothan 1.8 will consist of. We do not know everything about it as fact until we get out hands on it, but a certain degree of reasonable extrapolation is not unreasonable. The mantra that this CPU can't be compared to that CPU is bunk. You can compare big-block v8's to tiny turbo I4's. They are built completely differently and other then using the same fuel to do similar work, they have next to nothing in common, but comparisons are still valid and not only can be made they should be made. Buying something on faith is best left to church not laptops.
post #19 of 28
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if you really want to get into it..... what I was getting at was that you can't say this p4 is twice as fast and half the price.

True, you can break it down to cost per level of performance... thats great, but then you have to be able to understand the heat dissipation issues, which are going to lead to bigger heatsinks --- or should. You also have battery issues, which I'm not even going to get into that......

I will say however that p4's will be out of notebooks before the end of the summer.... December brings the 3rd generation of centrino.

and as a correction, i'd like to mention that the dothan is the 2nd generation of centrino.

1st- 1mb cache / ddr266 / 802.11b wifi
2nd - 2mb cache / ddr333 / 802.11b/g wifi
3rd - faster bus, I think 533 they said / ddr400; dual channel / g wifi and that new format / serial ata / pci express graphics

gsm/gprs modem might end up in there too.
post #20 of 28
Did anyone save the review? Seems to have disapered somewhere again...
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